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Written by Thib on 2025-01-08 at 09:07

I am European. I am horrified by the direction the world is taking. I feel powerless against a class that crushes the world to serve its own interests.

Today I joined a union.

Not because I’m at odds with my employer. They’re treating me well.

I’m joining a union because we need class solidarity. I’m joining a union to protect and rebuild public services. I’m joining a union because democracy is more than voting for representatives.

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Written by Vixente on 2025-01-08 at 11:57

@thibaultamartin Well said. 💪

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Written by Venta on 2025-01-08 at 15:05

@thibaultamartin I too am horrified and terrified by the turn the world has taken. I fully expect a 3rd world war, waged by multi-billionaires in a bid to become even richer. It is genuinely like living in some futuristic dystopian movie.

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Written by Stefan Edward Jones on 2025-01-08 at 20:44

@thibaultamartin We need more unions and unionization, in all fields, now more than ever.

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Written by Zoidberg For President on 2025-01-08 at 22:11

@thibaultamartin Democracy is not decided with a piece of paper, it is attained, like any other social advance, by taking it... and kept, like for any other social advance, by fighting for it.

Down with capitalism, down with the ruling classes !

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Written by 24😷-185 on 2025-01-08 at 23:10

@thibaultamartin That's exactly my motivation to get unionized!

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Written by MarkNW on 2025-01-09 at 00:40

@thibaultamartin well done! I did the same about 3 years ago

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Written by SearingTruth on 2025-01-09 at 07:19

@thibaultamartin

"Together my friend.

That's how humanity will win."

SearingTruth

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Written by icaria36 🎶 on 2025-01-09 at 09:04

@thibaultamartin Same here. There are many complex problems and it is difficult to find a good next step in many of them. Joining a union isn't complex, it is a concrete step, and it helps figure out further steps.

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Written by Irenes (many) on 2025-01-09 at 09:41

@thibaultamartin well said!!!!!

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Written by Raven on 2025-01-09 at 09:50

@thibaultamartin #UnionStrong!

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Written by Carmen Zedler on 2025-01-09 at 10:14

@thibaultamartin 💓

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Written by Rev. Roger BW 😷 on 2025-01-09 at 12:03

@thibaultamartin I am not a European any more because my government took all the dodgy money. My workplace union sides with the bosses over the workers every time.

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Written by Stevie's Yer Da' on 2025-01-09 at 18:08

@RogerBW @thibaultamartin

many unions, or most, are deeply flawed and often the leadership are wholly engaged in support of the aims of the ruling class, but it remains vital that working class people join unions because the one real power we have is our labour and the ability to withdraw it.

The more people who are in unions the more power we all have and the more radical we can make our unions, and from there our representatives in politics

[#]JoinAUnion

[#]TaxTheRich

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Written by JamieGC 🏴 🏳️‍🌈 🖖 on 2025-01-09 at 19:28

@RogerBW @thibaultamartin any way to replace their leadership?

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Written by Rev. Roger BW 😷 on 2025-01-09 at 22:54

@JamieGC @thibaultamartin Most of the members vote for business as usual.

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Written by Mx Verda on 2025-01-10 at 15:55

@RogerBW "for now"

@JamieGC @thibaultamartin

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Written by Pete Prodoehl 🍕 on 2025-01-09 at 16:06

@thibaultamartin Can I just join a union? I don't have one at work as I work for a very small company run by a friend of mine, but... I support unions. Can you just join any union? (I'm in the US, btw.)

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Written by Thib on 2025-01-09 at 16:12

In France you can join a nation-wide union even if there is nobody from that union already working for your company.

I don’t know about the US though. I’ve heard positive noises about “You Deserve a Tech Union” but I’m not qualified to say anything about it!

https://abookapart.com/products/you-deserve-a-tech-union

@rasterweb

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Written by Flo on 2025-01-09 at 21:15

@thibaultamartin @rasterweb the same in Germany. You can join any union, but if you really want to organize in your company, everyone should be in the same organisation... And if you want full support of the union, you should have a significant number of employees organized, as they prefer fights they might be able to win. Oh and it would be good if the union has experience with the sector. But any union is better than no union.

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Written by Pete Prodoehl 🍕 on 2025-01-09 at 22:12

@desperadoduck @thibaultamartin I did a little poking around and it seems difficult or not possible to join a union in the US unless it's at the place you work or you have a professional affiliation to a specific type of work.

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Written by Flo on 2025-01-10 at 06:02

@rasterweb @thibaultamartin wow, this is sad. Are there many requirements to create a new one?

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Written by Amanda on 2025-01-09 at 16:54

@rasterweb @thibaultamartin I have always wondered this too! I would love to just join some unions in the US to support people…but I don’t know if that’s even allowed or how I would do it.

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Written by Brand_R on 2025-01-09 at 17:11

@thibaultamartin I've joined unions (more than one over my life) because I liked my employer and wanted it to stay that way.

When we can negotiate with leverage, and everyone knows we can all bring real effect to the table, we're all incentivized to behave.

When even good employers start to think they can get away with just a little more, it's often hard to hold the line.

So join a union, keep your relationships honest!

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Written by JamieGC 🏴 🏳️‍🌈 🖖 on 2025-01-09 at 19:28

@thibaultamartin workers of the world, unite. ✊

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Written by Aphra Behn (ella/she) on 2025-01-09 at 19:58

@thibaultamartin

I'm a freelancer. This year, I joined a union for the same reasons.

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Written by webhat on 2025-01-10 at 09:36

@thibaultamartin I had a similar discussion with a colleague. As I said to her: "You have insurance for your car, house, incase your children break stuff. Joining a union is like having insurance on your job, you'll probably not need it, and when you do you'll be glad you have it."

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Written by Mx Verda on 2025-01-10 at 15:56

@webhat

except this "insurance" is people you can talk to directly and explain the consequences if they choose not to pay out, unless insurance companies.

@thibaultamartin

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Written by Andy Wootton on 2025-01-10 at 10:33

@thibaultamartin I don't think we need 'class' solidarity. We need 'good people' solidarity. 'Good' can be defined objectively, in terms of whether people prioritise the interests of self or of others. The poor can be just as selfish, if they only care about people like them. Trade Unions can use industrial power to be unfair.

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Written by Andy Wootton on 2025-01-10 at 10:45

@thibaultamartin I'm not claiming to be an angel but I try to balance my selfishness with minimising harm to others.

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Written by Andy Wootton on 2025-01-10 at 12:29

@thibaultamartin Politics is the debate over what "fair" means. When I say it, I mean the 'Social Liberal' interpretation. People aren't equal but the consequences of that should be limited. Inequality needs upper bounds.

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Written by Mx Verda on 2025-01-10 at 15:58

@woo

Rich people can decide to be 'good' people by entrusting their excess wealth and assets to their local (non-rich af) communities.

By showing solidarity with others in their actions, THEN I'm willing to work with them. Otherwise it's all talk and reputation politics rather than giving a fuck about reducing real harm.

@thibaultamartin

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Written by John_Loader on 2025-01-10 at 12:16

@thibaultamartin in the UK pensioners have a union that lobbies government on pensioner issues NFOP

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Written by LordWoolamaloo on 2025-01-10 at 15:21

@thibaultamartin I work in a wonderful, independent bookshop, but I still have my union membership. Years ago when I had a not very nice employer, my union had my back, and we won. On the publicity around the case, my union told me they had a surge of booksellers joining because of it

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Written by Debra Shannon on 2025-01-10 at 15:52

@thibaultamartin I am so with you. I don't think I have many moments of my days that are not anxiety driven. It is a helpless feeling.

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Written by Rosy Maths on 2025-01-10 at 16:41

@thibaultamartin 💪

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Written by Lysistratos 🌐🇪🇺🇩🇪 on 2025-01-10 at 16:56

@thibaultamartin

Chapeau!

Union Maid

Words and Music by Woody Guthrie

There once was a union maid, she never was afraid

Of goons and ginks and company finks and the deputy sheriffs who made the raid.

She went to the union hall when a meeting it was called,

And when the Legion boys come 'round

She always stood her ground.<

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6QxVBHbMwQ

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Written by econads on 2025-01-10 at 17:24

@thibaultamartin @sinituulia

Yep, should be a point of principal

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Written by Maël / Akin on 2025-01-10 at 19:13

@thibaultamartin you brought hope to me, thanks !

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Written by Yet another Josh :donor: on 2025-01-10 at 20:18

@thibaultamartin

I'm in the USA.

Every non-professional (read: slave labor) job didn't permit unions. Worked at Walmart, who'd fire you. And Starbucks unionized 15 years after I was there.

Every "professional" job never had unions either. Even the one at the university. Nope. I made $2500 more than the CWA would permit, and I was marked "professional".

Sure, unions exist for some people here. I've never had the capability to join one. My gods, I've wanted to.

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Written by Boris Barbour on 2025-01-10 at 20:56

@thibaultamartin

Was thinking similar thoughts. Also, possibly joining a political party. Collective action requires organisation, ergo join existing organisations.

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Written by argv minus one on 2025-01-10 at 23:01

@thibaultamartin

I have heard of employers who prefer to deal with unions, because that way they can negotiate all of their employees' contracts all at once.

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Written by Henrik Hemrin on 2025-01-10 at 23:03

@thibaultamartin Interesting. I'm so used to from my Swedish perspective that everyone is member of the union. I know it has gone down the last decade or two, don't know the figures. But still very many are members, blue and white collars, publice and private sectors, incl managers. The union I belong to has the name "Unionen", which is a somewhat confusing name!

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Written by Andrew Jennings on 2025-01-11 at 07:52

@thibaultamartin several times in my working life I was in very difficult situations. Only the union helped. They were wonderful. Great move.

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Written by mariaurea on 2025-01-11 at 08:09

@thibaultamartin

In fact, we are living in a totally unimaginable surreal moment... The world is diving dangerously into a stage of regression and mediocrity just when information has become instantaneous.

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Written by |/|/i!!i@/|/|™ on 2025-01-12 at 03:53

@thibaultamartin I hope it will help you.

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