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Written by Jeff Moss on 2024-10-03 at 09:51

Is it just me? Anytime I see AI generated images used in articles or web pages I immediately think “lazy” Just use free stock art at least.

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Written by gary on 2024-10-03 at 09:58

@thedarktangent use open ai nvidia generated art - even you are dipping your toes in - nvidia announcement they are getting iinto model and training game could be big, will put pressure on other players, smart move by team green but wait for consensus - announcement was only yesterday, likely many more developments will ensue

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Written by Jeffrey on 2024-10-03 at 10:32

@thedarktangent same!

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Written by char on 2024-10-03 at 10:35

@thedarktangent same feeling!

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Written by Tony Cartledge on 2024-10-03 at 10:36

@thedarktangent I hate the textures on the skin. They all look like sex dolls.

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Written by ριɳɠυιɳσ on 2024-10-03 at 10:38

@thedarktangent AI generated recipe photos make me angry.

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Written by Jeff Moss on 2024-10-03 at 11:57

@pinguino Oh right, that has got to be a whole new level of hate. Like being an astronomer and seeing AI Generated moon pictures.

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Written by Blippy the Wonder Slug 🇩🇪 on 2024-10-03 at 13:37

@thedarktangent @pinguino

I feel your pain.

[#]Audrey

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Written by @pineywoozle (s) for HARRIS on 2024-10-03 at 15:58

@BlippyTheWonderSlug @thedarktangent @pinguino It’s just creepy how off it is.

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Written by wortezimmer on 2024-10-03 at 18:55

@Pineywoozle

@BlippyTheWonderSlug @thedarktangent @pinguino

This should be prosecuted. Desecrating such an icon.

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Written by @pineywoozle (s) for HARRIS on 2024-10-03 at 19:14

@wortezimmer @BlippyTheWonderSlug @thedarktangent @pinguino Pretty gross.

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Written by Ariaflame on 2024-10-03 at 16:02

@BlippyTheWonderSlug @thedarktangent @pinguino Suddenly I'm remembering reading 'Remake' by Connie Willis.

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Written by ριɳɠυιɳσ on 2024-10-03 at 22:06

@thedarktangent When you're trying to learn how to make something, and the reference photo isn't real, it's also really bad for the learning process. I've seen some that have completely different fruits being used because people don't know what a blackcurrant looks like.

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Written by Zumbador on 2024-10-03 at 10:42

@thedarktangent I especially hate it when it's an organisation working for social justice, or for other causes I support. It really undercuts my respect for them.

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Written by Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈 on 2024-10-03 at 13:46

@Zumbador @thedarktangent same.

Choices were made...

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Written by Lars Erik Braatveit on 2024-10-03 at 10:48

@thedarktangent I would rather see stick figure art from MS Paint than AI generated images. At least you put in some effort in the visuals you show me

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Written by Dr Lee A. Christie on 2024-10-03 at 10:53

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Written by Deus Figendi.jwd on 2024-10-03 at 12:31

@0x1ac @thedarktangent

At least it's recycled. So one time CO2-emission to generate it, but usage multiple times.

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Written by Clare Hooley on 2024-10-03 at 13:03

@thedarktangent mind your instance has an AI art cover image 😀

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Written by Jeff Moss on 2024-10-03 at 14:06

@clare_hooley What image is that?

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Written by Clare Hooley on 2024-10-03 at 14:54

@thedarktangent really sorry, I meant the techhub.social and de-tagged the wrong person!

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Written by Jeff Moss on 2024-10-03 at 14:58

@clare_hooley No worries!

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Written by cy on 2024-10-03 at 15:48

Be careful, stock photos often aren't as free as you might think.

https://uslawpros.com/how-to-use-stock-photos-legally-common-mistakes-to-avoid/

Make sure they're under an actually free license, or you could face lawsuits if you try to use them in any serious context. Even free images, if they're photos that contain copyrighted or trademarked images, you could still get sued. Even ones that don't, if a person is in the picture, they could (in theory) sue you under slander laws.

Artists also will go after you for making edits, pretty universally these days, because no one but me seems to think that making it illegal to draw moustaches on things is a bad idea.

CC: @thedarktangent@defcon.social

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Written by Allyn on 2024-10-03 at 11:00

@thedarktangent chances are if they used AI for the images, they used it to generate the article.

So it's a hard pass for me.

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Written by Shell :fedora: on 2024-10-03 at 11:07

@thedarktangent I see it, I think cheap. Sort of like those too oily to eat cheap off the street things you would get.

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Written by Viraptor on 2024-10-03 at 11:22

@thedarktangent When compared to free stock images, I don't see the difference. If one works better than the other for some use case, then no judgement from me. As long as it's good quality anyway - both low quality stock and genai are sad.

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Written by Jeff Moss on 2024-10-03 at 12:00

@viraptor But with stock art at least someone had to review multiple (real)pictures and pick the one they thought fit instead of typing "Cyberspace network" at the prompt and using whatever resulted. It's like the bare minimum effort please.

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Written by Viraptor on 2024-10-03 at 12:08

@thedarktangent I'm not sure those assumptions are safe. Someone could search for "cyberspace network free stock" and choose the first one, or they could spend a lot of time generating just the right thing using their specific fine tuned model and spending extra time to in-paint the areas which needed correcting. From the outside we won't know which one happened, unless one falls into the "objectively bad" category.

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Written by FediThing 🏳️‍🌈 on 2024-10-03 at 15:27

@viraptor @thedarktangent

The AI art is stolen, that's why it is wrong to use it. The actual creators of the art aren't credited. AI also causes a tremendous amount of environmental damage.

With stock art the creator is credited and/or paid and there's no environmental damage.

If you can't afford stock art, use creative commons art where the creator has given permission to re-use for a credit.

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Written by wortezimmer on 2024-10-03 at 18:57

@FediThing

So much this!

@viraptor @thedarktangent

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Written by Nonya Bidniss 🥥🌴 on 2024-10-03 at 11:23

@thedarktangent And I also will most of the time leave the article or page unread. Thinking about environmental impacts makes me so angry when I see businesses or anyone else using generative images, I lose interest in whatever they want to say.

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Written by William Canna-bass on 2024-10-03 at 11:35

@thedarktangent #StockPhotos are infinitely preferable to AI generated images due to the carbon footprint.

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Written by John Colagioia on 2024-10-03 at 11:47

@thedarktangent I've said for a while that I think that's the path to popping their bubble: Treat AI work as placeholders that got published. If it's an image, if it's meandering text, if it's a shoddy translation, think of the company as the sort of place where they'll happily sell you lorem ipsum and make your choices accordingly.

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Written by Simonoid on 2024-10-03 at 12:04

@thedarktangent ai generated LinkedIn article pictures. You're not as creative as you think you are...

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Written by Juan Villela on 2024-10-03 at 12:17

@thedarktangent Same. But I also feel apprehensive about what they have to say. I loose trust.

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Written by Martin Schlegel on 2024-10-03 at 12:24

@thedarktangent i privately used AI images a bit for stuff that is fictional and to specific to just find free images on the web. Characters and scenes for pen and paper rpgs etc. In such cases I generally have 3 options: draw something myself, let AI generate something or commission something. I prefer the first and last approach but as I don’t earn money with it, I can’t pay for commissioning Art for every NPC and I don’t have the time to draw everything myself.

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Written by Pentropy on 2024-10-03 at 12:28

@thedarktangent Yea, it's just you. People even defend newspapers when they publish agency reports without even letting an intern rewrite it, just copy and paste. People also don't see a problem when several larger news outlets do that. For AI Images at least you have to write a prompt, so that's less lazy - and less important.

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Written by Hacker Factor on 2024-10-03 at 12:35

@thedarktangent IMNSHO, AI art in place of real people, customers, events isn't just lazy, it's fraud/misrepresentation.

AI art in place of stock photos doesn't mean much to me. In either case, the author is using a picture because they want a picture, and not because it has special meaning.

In my case, I write about problems with AI and I use AI art to demonstrate the problems, or I write about other problems and I use AI because I don't want to dox real people. Do you think that's "lazy"?

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Written by Astridnauta on 2024-10-03 at 12:41

@thedarktangent I agree with the fact that maybe even on those pages you can find AI made images

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Written by El Pamplina 🇺🇦 🇵🇸 :cadiz: on 2024-10-03 at 12:50

@thedarktangent Made by AI = Poor quality / lazy / greedy

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Written by Wesley Fryer on 2024-10-03 at 12:57

@thedarktangent That’s definitely not how I feel. It’s really incredible to be able to iteratively craft a more specific image than you can find on stock websites or other sites with AI. It’s mind blowing powerful, actually. Ideogram is my fav tool for generative images at this point. #create2learn

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Written by Martin Pilkington on 2024-10-03 at 13:07

@thedarktangent @rmondello I immediately think the rest of the content is also AI generated so ignore it

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Written by jbz on 2024-10-03 at 13:08

@thedarktangent hard to avoid that bias even if the content Is great.

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Written by nicolas ⁂ on 2024-10-03 at 13:18

@thedarktangent Same here! I rarely click on articles that have text-to-image preview pictures, or read those which have those as a header. Hard not to think that the article text itself was generated as well.

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Written by Varx on 2024-10-03 at 13:22

@thedarktangent huh nope, but now I probably will.

It's also interesting that we can say something looks "AI generated". There's definitely a 'je ne sais quoi' that makes some images feel AI generated.

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Written by kira :3 on 2024-10-03 at 13:25

@thedarktangent it looks unserious

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Written by Jack Linke 🦄 on 2024-10-03 at 13:27

@thedarktangent Yep.

And because I've seen so many bad AI copy-paste jobs in the past, I kind of assume I'll be seeing portions of the response metainfo in the resulting product.

For instance, this (pkm.social/@TfTHacker/113243618998317365) seems like something I might be interested in, but the (seemingly) AI-generated imagery makes me assume the whole project was generated with an LLM and then I worry about the quality of the thing they want me to purchase.

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Written by Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈 on 2024-10-03 at 13:44

@thedarktangent I skip articles with AI slop for pictures, its ugly and it puts me off.

I'd rather have a simple MS Paint drawing by the writer than some environmentally painful Tech Bros crap with dead eyes and too many fingers staring back at me

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Written by b4ux1t3 :trek_ds9_sisko:#1️⃣ on 2024-10-03 at 14:07

@thedarktangent the worst is when you find an article decrying the ethics of the current state of AI tools, and then having the audacity to use an AI-gen image as the feature image.

Like, what?

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Written by Héloïse on 2024-10-03 at 15:18

@thedarktangent It makes me stop reading or at least roll my eyes at the content

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Written by FediThing 🏳️‍🌈 on 2024-10-03 at 15:25

@thedarktangent

Not just you, it's a total turn-off. Pretty much spoils the entire article if there's AI art in it.

If an author is lazy or ethically-challenged enough to use AI art, it implies they might be using an AI to write the article itself.

Even if they don't have money for stock art, there are lots of creative commons artists and photographers they can use with a credit.

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Written by Ben Rosengart on 2024-10-03 at 15:28

@thedarktangent @StaceyCornelius I usually close the tab on sight. It’s not just laziness, to me it shows poor values and a lack of judgement.

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Written by Michael Crider on 2024-10-03 at 15:33

@thedarktangent @wander1236 I assume that if you're okay with an AI image, there's a good chance you're okay with AI text.

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Written by Soul Filing Cabinets on 2024-10-03 at 15:43

@thedarktangent Anyone who uses AI-output images or content I will automatically reject, for any reason or purpose with the exception of demonstrating why AI is bad.

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Written by @pineywoozle (s) for HARRIS on 2024-10-03 at 16:08

@thedarktangent As an artist I think “theft & climate damages and lazy”

This is the best description of AI I’ve ever read. #AI

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Written by Sam Thurston :verified: on 2024-10-03 at 16:10

@thedarktangent aren't the free stock sites flooded with genAI crap now? But the genAI is trained from the free stock images.... Doom loop.

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Written by keek on 2024-10-03 at 16:16

@thedarktangent yeap. immediately uninterested in the content

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Written by Galbinus Caeli 🌯 on 2024-10-03 at 16:48

@thedarktangent I think "inaccurate" and "deceptive"

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Written by Jayne, destroyer of integrated circuits on 2024-10-03 at 16:49

@thedarktangent seeing AI images on a website makes me instantly doubt the quality of the writing, as it increases the chances that they've used a slurry of ChatGPT, imo.

Unless it's the only place I can get the desired info, I'll probably close the tab and look elsewhere.

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Written by Metafrastis on 2024-10-03 at 17:22

@thedarktangent Bad AI images are the Corel Gallery Clipart of our time.

Good AI images will fool anybody here who thinks she/he can recognize AI images at first glance. Like: which of these is not AI-generated? The probability of you finding the right one is around 50%. (Poll below)

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Written by Vicente on 2024-10-03 at 18:26

@thedarktangent @FlanFlinger Lazy and a total waste of space.

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