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Written by Bread and Circuses on 2025-01-15 at 14:03

Here's another resource describing the positive values of a plant-based diet. This is a short, easy read, still very informative but a bit less academic in style than the article from my previous post.

➡️ https://cruelty.farm/environmental-impact-of-diets-meat-vs-plant-based/

They illustrate the radical difference in land use between one kind of diet and the other with this graphic...

[#]Science #Environment #Climate #ClimateChange #ClimateCrisis #Vegan

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Written by Bread and Circuses on 2025-01-15 at 14:11

The world is running out of fresh water. A major cause of that is factory farming. But if we shifted to a plant-based diet...

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Written by anubis2814 on 2025-01-15 at 14:08

@breadandcircuses Lamb in the US is so much higher than beef specifically because we do not eat sheep. We eat cows, and calves are more a delicacy. With lamb its the opposite and after weening they go directly to the feed lot converting food we can eat into less food we can eat.

Americans can't stand the taste of sheep, it has a strong flavor akin to older goat milk. In the rest of the world they use it in soups and stews. Used to love lamb but i don't love it that much knowing what i know.

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Written by AI6YR Ben on 2025-01-15 at 14:13

@breadandcircuses I'm surprised by that graph, as tomatoes are HUGELY water intensive as a crop.

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Written by MatthewToadAgain on 2025-01-15 at 14:31

@breadandcircuses Interesting to compare these with carbon. For instance, after beef, cheese is pretty high, while milk and eggs are surprisingly low; rice has a major methane problem, but it's still less than eggs.

If you give up one thing, give up beef. That's the most obvious message here!

https://ourworldindata.org/food-choice-vs-eating-local

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Written by Neil Gall on 2025-01-15 at 14:40

@breadandcircuses On this one I'd go further. Misinformation is too kind a word for such utter bollocks.

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Written by Ivo Limmen on 2025-01-15 at 14:54

@breadandcircuses it should be relative to how much people it feeds. One tomato is not enough for one person but a cow feeds a family for multiple days...

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Written by Seitansbraten on 2025-01-15 at 15:54

@ivolimmen @breadandcircuses I don't think it's one tomato to one Cow. It's one kg tomatos to one kg meat

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Written by Henri Verymetaldev on 2025-01-15 at 17:02

@breadandcircuses What's up with the chicken/egg equation?

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Written by ludo on 2025-01-15 at 19:29

@breadandcircuses

I yearn for greater sustainability.

[#]RestorativeAgriculture and eating less meat would be wonderful.

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Written by Elric on 2025-01-15 at 21:29

@breadandcircuses That's a pretty common take, but I doubt it's quite as simple. That water doesn't disappear into thin air. Well, some of it does, at which point it becomes rain. Some of goes into the soil. Some of it remains in the food and ends up in our guts.

Also, 1kg of beef contains ~2500kcal, while a tomato only provides ~190kcal. Not quite apples and oranges.

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Written by GhostOnTheHalfShell on 2025-01-15 at 22:56

@breadandcircuses

That regenerative farming techniques ones where Bob like the water that falls on the landscape is sequestered underground.. In animal life fulfills its something closer to its natural role chickens eat bugs and poop on the grass cows, eat vegetation, and poop on the grass. Happy little dung beatles burrow through it all and mix it into the soil.

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Written by Gretchen Anderson on 2025-01-15 at 22:57

@breadandcircuses dumb question but if cheese comes from cows why so much more water for beef?

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Written by Democracy Matters :verified: on 2025-01-15 at 23:00

@gretared

You can only eat an animal once; milk is produced continuously.

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Written by Ember on 2025-01-16 at 01:42

@breadandcircuses unfortunately, as many vegans can attest, often times people are far more concerned with defending their current choices than they are with changing to more ethical choices.

Many seem to have a certain sense of "ignorance is innocence". That isn't an unreasonable sentiment in a number of contexts, but as a consequence, education about how horrific animal exploitation is--for the animals being exploited, for the planet, and for humans--is almost seen as a type of violence. (This type of behaviour is not exclusive to veganism--similar things are also observed in attempts to educate people on queermisia, racism, and other forms of social discrimination in humans)

By educating people of these topics, you strip them of a claim to ignorance, and thus also strip them of their claim to innocence. People will fight to preserve their ignorance, even if it means willing belief in obvious propaganda projects like those from the Center for Consumer Freedom, such as "PetaKillsAnimals".

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