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Written by Marco Arment on 2025-01-03 at 23:48

Watch everyone now bend over backward to justify this as some sort of forced move that Cook HAD to do.

Tim Cook, reluctantly supporting Trump, because it's the savvy move for Apple…

Tim Cook… reluctantly supporting Trump…

Tim Cook… supporting Trump…

Are we getting it yet?

https://mastodon.social/@appleinsider/113766618970266062

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Written by Marco Arment on 2025-01-03 at 23:49

Have you considered the possibility that Tim Cook just… supports Trump?

Like so many other mega-rich CEOs?

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Written by Marco Arment on 2025-01-03 at 23:51

Is it that hard to believe?

Why do we think Tim Cook couldn't possibly support Trump, while all of these other billionaires support him for their own billionaire self-interests?

Why do we keep making excuses for him?

Why do we keep making excuses for Apple?

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Written by Ben Mitchell on 2025-01-03 at 23:50

@marcoarment it’s totally sickening

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Written by CM Harrington on 2025-01-03 at 23:54

@marcoarment You would want to think that the most powerful gay CEO ever wouldn’t want to actively contribute to the harm of LGBT people, but money changes everything.

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Written by Carolyn on 2025-01-03 at 23:58

@octothorpe @marcoarment With enough money it becomes about class; the rest of us are just minions for their use.

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Written by Maxi 10x 💉 on 2025-01-04 at 01:54

@CStamp @octothorpe @marcoarment Peter Thiel is gay too!

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Written by Carolyn on 2025-01-04 at 03:10

@frumble @octothorpe @marcoarment When you're rich enough, nothing matters but the money. You can rape, pillage, murder, and it just doesn't matter.

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Written by Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷 on 2025-01-04 at 19:01

@frumble @CStamp @octothorpe @marcoarment Germany's most right-wing election candidate - for legal reasons, I'll only say that she's been called fascist before, not that she is one - is a lesbian married to an immigrant.

Ideology, money, and power.

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Written by Carolyn on 2025-01-04 at 19:07

@larsmb @frumble @octothorpe @marcoarment Yep. And Caitlyn Jenner pushing GOP platforms as a trans woman is quite the thing.

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Written by Gilbert Pilz on 2025-01-04 at 01:42

@octothorpe @marcoarment There is no war but class war. Billionaire LGBTQ people will shit on working LGBTQ people without a second thought. There is no identity allegiance that is even a tiny bit as strong as class allegiance.

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Written by New Year Older Jon on 2025-01-04 at 03:06

@gpilz This is so refreshing to read. Thanks for the reminder.

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Written by Jennifer Kayla | Theogrin 🦊 on 2025-01-04 at 04:23

@octothorpe @marcoarment

He also knows that he and his are exempt from discrimination for being gay -- in the same way that Pete and Chasten Buttigieg are immune from prosecution even if cases like Lawrence get overturned. In the same way that nobody's going to bother with Loving's upheaval when it comes to Clarence Thomas.

It's hard to distinguish the two, as wealth often results in immunity from consequences (and vice versa, sometimes), but I'd say that his certainty that He Will Never Be Hurt leads to a dismissal of the massive, overwhelming damage done to others.

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Written by David 🏳️‍🌈🇵🇸 he/they on 2025-01-04 at 15:01

I wouldn’t. His community isn’t the queer community, it’s other rich people.

@octothorpe @marcoarment

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Written by Kevin Dente on 2025-01-03 at 23:57

@marcoarment a lot of this feels like “bribe Trump to avoid tariffs”. Which is still gross.

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Written by tvaughan on 2025-01-04 at 00:25

@kevindente I hope the CEO of Apple isn’t dumb enough to think a bribe like this would actually work

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Written by TinDrum on 2025-01-04 at 00:37

@tvaughan @kevindente trump's transparently and unapologetically transactional – why do you think this strategy wouldn't work?

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Written by tvaughan on 2025-01-04 at 00:44

@oscarjiminy @kevindente 1. He’s already got the money.

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Written by TinDrum on 2025-01-04 at 01:57

@tvaughan @kevindente deep thoughts there mate

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Written by The Great Llama :fuck_verify: on 2025-01-04 at 05:11

@oscarjiminy @tvaughan @kevindente

Oh, he's very transactional when it comes to getting his, but he tends to be less so when it comes to holding up his end of the deal. This is a man with an EXTENSIVE history of being sued for unpaid debts.

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Written by TinDrum on 2025-01-04 at 05:14

@TheGreatLlama @tvaughan @kevindente extensive history of unpaid debts you say..?

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Written by The Great Llama :fuck_verify: on 2025-01-04 at 05:18

@oscarjiminy @tvaughan @kevindente

Yes. Look it up, or don't, but I'm not interested in feeding a sealion.

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Written by TinDrum on 2025-01-04 at 05:19

@TheGreatLlama @tvaughan @kevindente look it up..?

jfc

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Written by The Great Llama :fuck_verify: on 2025-01-04 at 05:25

@oscarjiminy@aus.social @tvaughan @kevindente

Zero time for this kind of crap anymore. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out. Trump's allergies to paying his bills are well documented, and it's not my responsibility to do your homework.

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Written by Leon Cowle on 2025-01-04 at 00:03

@marcoarment Mark Cuban doesn't (support Trump). JB Pritzker doesn't. Melinda Gates. Soros. Reed Hastings. They do exist, but yes, they are in the minority (amongst billionaires).

I think a viable explanation is that it's a shit sandwich, that Cook is begrudgingly choosing to eat. Apple is a very (!!) import-heavy org, and tariffs can hurt them particularly harshly. Cook could be putting his own ego aside to stroke the ego of the man who will grant those much needed tariff exceptions.

Or he could simply be a Trump supporter. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Written by Colinaut on 2025-01-04 at 17:31

@leoncowle @marcoarment no ethical consumption (or means of running a business) under fascism.

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Written by Greg Pierce on 2025-01-04 at 00:04

@marcoarment we do it because we don’t have a suitable alternative to iPhones and Macs that would facilitate taking a moral stand, so we rationalize.

It’s easy enough to boycott Tesla, there are alternatives.

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Written by Paweł Orzech on 2025-01-04 at 00:07

@agiletortoise @marcoarment not having suitable alternative to iphone or Mac is a very long stretch

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Written by Disappointed_Horse on 2025-01-04 at 00:21

@pawel @agiletortoise @marcoarment I installed Linux on my MacBook Air last month and it runs better than it did on macOS. The walled garden is not inescapable.

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Written by John Gruber on 2025-01-04 at 01:09

@Disappointed_Horse @pawel @agiletortoise @marcoarment So sayeth Disappointed Horse.

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Written by Disappointed_Horse on 2025-01-04 at 02:52

@gruber Well said.

cc: @pawel @agiletortoise @marcoarment

https://daringfireball.net/linked/2025/01/03/allen-tim-cook-1m-trump-inauguration

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Written by Chris Mackay 🇨🇦 on 2025-01-04 at 00:22

@pawel @agiletortoise @marcoarment Not at all. If I had to switch I’d do without. You won’t believe me, but it’s true.

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Written by Andy :starfleet_command: on 2025-01-04 at 00:48

@agiletortoise @marcoarment there are 100% a whole lot of alternatives to Macs, and especially, iPhones. Lets me honest there.

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Written by Anthony on 2025-01-04 at 00:07

@marcoarment Whether or not he personally supports him, people defending the “he had to do it because of some duty to the shareholders" idea should remember https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/03/at-apple-shareholders-meeting-tim-cook-tells-off-climate-change-deniers/.

A principle isn't a principle until it costs you something.

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Written by AC on 2025-01-04 at 00:08

@marcoarment Tim Cook is only as strong a CEO as Apple is highly-ranked on the Fortune 500. If they fall out of the top 5, he starts getting shit. Top 10, he gets pressured to retire. Top 25, he’s gone. Of course he’s going to pursue any avenue he can to retain his power.

But it’s sure a hard pivot from when he told the right-wing weirdo hedge fund guy that if he didn’t like Apple spending money on accessibility tech without a care for the “bloody ROI”, then the weirdo could “get out of this stock”.

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Written by Antifa-gravity boots on 2025-01-04 at 03:36

@ac @marcoarment oh dear, retire with a net worth of only a couple billion. The horror.

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Written by AC on 2025-01-04 at 03:54

@lerxst @marcoarment Fair, except I think he’s not in it 100 percent for the money. I think he likes having power and influence. He likes being in a position to preach and be heard by his flock. He finds it gratifying when the Apple faithful defend Apple and, by extension, him.

There’s no better way to rob Tim Cook of power and influence than to say, “Eh, it’s just a phone.”

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Written by Drew Pickard on 2025-01-04 at 00:08

@marcoarment

He does it for the bloody ROI

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Written by Aaron :apple_inc: :isles: on 2025-01-04 at 00:17

@marcoarment 💯 clear as day he’s doing it because he wants to and because he can. I sure as shit ain’t gonna defend it.

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Written by Jeff Grossman on 2025-01-04 at 00:32

@marcoarment Unless Tim Cook lives in Michigan (or the listed state is a mistake), it does not appear that he or Apple donated to the Biden inaugural 4 years ago (while Amazon, Google, and Microsoft did) https://web.archive.org/web/20210125013628/https://bideninaugural.org/brqrthk6dhdn94xx/

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Written by SwampYankee on 2025-01-04 at 00:53

@marcoarment Forget where I heard it but "Whats the point of having FU money if you never say FU?

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Written by The Great Llama :fuck_verify: on 2025-01-04 at 05:17

@SwampYankee @marcoarment

Normally, I think the concept of FU money is a mess, but in this case I'd rather he used it as such.

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Written by Nicky🦨✌️ on 2025-01-04 at 05:46

@marcoarment because we want to believe they produce an ethical product (RED to help children with AIDS) —their culture, the cleanliness their product evokes, years of marketing—we’re apple junkies…iTunes, ted lasso, etc….tomorrowland…

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Written by Joakim Melin on 2025-01-04 at 09:17

@marcoarment

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Written by Greg on 2025-01-04 at 10:42

@marcoarment Wishy thinking

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Written by Patrick on 2025-01-04 at 11:22

@marcoarment For certain writers and publications who depend a lot on access to Apple, this is something they’ll never admit or consider.

In the same way that it never occurs to them that Apple complies with everything China demands, without complaint, because Apple will happily trade human rights for profit any day of the week.

But anyone who even entertained that idea would stop getting Apple execs on the WWDC podcasts, stop getting review hardware, etc.

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Written by TransIntersex Boy on 2025-01-04 at 11:48

@marcoarment because apple depends of government money

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Written by freediverx on 2025-01-04 at 12:40

@marcoarment

There has never been an easier time to dislike Apple.

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Written by Steven Dehandtschutter on 2025-01-04 at 13:55

@marcoarment cognitive dissonance. As a long term Apple fan, I’ve come to realize over the last 2 years that the company is rotten to the core. Not the individual engineers, but the leadership. I always thought that they were better than the others but there is just too much evidence to the contrary. Eg how they handle App Store, allowing the casino-type games just for their 30% cut, rip-off upgrade prices. Tim will stop at nothing to get the service revenue up.

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Written by Dan Mielcarz on 2025-01-04 at 14:03

@marcoarment Trump is basically a mob boss shaking down all of these tech companies, and the capricious nature of tariffs says if they don’t play ball it could be very bad for their businesses. I’m not saying any of this is good, and maybe he should stand on principle. But I doubt we will see a letter like this from Tim Cook to Trump on the day of his inauguration: https://9to5mac.com/2021/01/29/tim-cook-biden-daca-letter/

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Written by Nathan King on 2025-01-04 at 14:56

@marcoarment Tim Cook, like every other CEO, supports who he needs to support to ensure the success of the company. Assuming any of his actions reveal principle or personal preference is a mistake.

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Written by Sebastian Arcq on 2025-01-04 at 15:59

@marcoarment because it's SO HARD to accept that the guy at the top of company that we hold so dearly may, in fact, be not enough better than the rest of the billionaires 😖

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Written by Sean on 2025-01-03 at 23:56

@marcoarment nah, he’s more than likely trying to curry favour.

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Written by Randy Clayton on 2025-01-04 at 00:13

@marcoarment no, I don’t think Tim “supports” Trump. It is circumstances. Look at Tim Cook’s entire body of work. There has been other giving and speeches and activism and his signing of the Giving Pledge to consider.

Think of how many other objectionable people Tim has had to maneuver around during his life as a gay man who grew up in Alabama. Trump is merely another obstacle to manage.

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Written by Darby Lines on 2025-01-05 at 00:59

@RandyClayton @marcoarment Read the original Axios article. Cook has been sucking up to Trump for years: https://www.axios.com/2025/01/03/tim-cook-apple-donate-1-million-trump-inauguration

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Written by Isaac Freeman on 2025-01-04 at 00:50

@marcoarment He literally just supported Trump with a million dollars. He is a Trump supporter. How he feels about it in his heart is none of my business.

Update: seems it was a different Tim Cook.

Update to update: I misunderstood, it's this Tim Cook. The different Tim Cook was a donor to the Biden inauguration. Apple's Tim Cook is a Trump supporter.

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Written by Paul Hoffman on 2025-01-04 at 02:23

@marcoarment A different take is that $1 million out-of-pocket means nothing financially to Tim Cook. Quite frankly, the same is true for $100 million. He has so much money that taking away amounts that mean a lot to us means nothing to him even in the short run. Yet it means something to Trump (because he's a narcissist), so why not do it for the power boost?

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Written by simba on 2025-01-04 at 08:27

@paulehoffman @marcoarment … because it’s supporting Donald Trump? Should he also donate to dictators to get a power boost?

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Written by John on 2025-01-04 at 16:28

@paulehoffman @marcoarment

TFW you support Hitler and the Nazi party because you've got so much money you might as well and it doesn't really matter either way to you, anyway: the Holocaust is something that happens to other people.

Utilitarianism in a nutshell.

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Written by vampirdaddy on 2025-01-04 at 02:41

@marcoarment

@frumble

Explained by @masek :

This is an ancient ritual called "kissing the ring" and we are observing it's modern implementation.

https://infosec.exchange/@masek/113662333228010607

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Written by malik on 2025-01-04 at 02:47

@marcoarment can’t imagine tbh

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Written by malik on 2025-01-04 at 02:49

@marcoarment A thought that just crossed my mind without particularly wanting to defend Apple or Cook:

Could it be that the CEO, who is basically already out of the door took it on himself to stay on the good side of Trump without tainting Apple the company?

So Apple can always say they never supported the fascist

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