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Written by Aral Balkan on 2025-01-20 at 21:26

Elon Musk: Sieg Heil

Mainstream media: what an odd salute… What could it possibly mean? Is it a space salute? Is he pointing at Mars?

[#]ElonMusk #Trump #fascism #USA

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Written by Lydia Conwell :mastodon: on 2025-01-20 at 21:27

@aral It's a SpaceX salute, for sure.

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Written by HeavenlyPossum on 2025-01-20 at 21:28

@aral

They so desperately want us to not feel comfortable trusting our own eyes.

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Written by Stéphanie on 2025-01-20 at 21:30

@HeavenlyPossum @aral Good exemple of real gaslighting, once again

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Written by K8tyCA on 2025-01-21 at 07:40

@stephanie @HeavenlyPossum @aral bingo

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Written by Anarcho Doggo on 2025-01-20 at 21:28

@aral lol the journalistic gymnastics to avoid calling it what it is were as odd as that Nazi salute.

When you back AfD and said the things he's said, it's not even defensible as a troll. So many reporters and editors are so spineless

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Written by Eowyn on 2025-01-20 at 21:28

@aral nouvelle variante du proverbe : quand un Nazi fait un salut Nazi l'imbécile regarde mars.

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Written by Kyle Montanio on 2025-01-20 at 21:34

@aral

The media's wingless to turn a blind eye to this, and everything else continues to surprise me.

Like, I shouldn't be surprised, but I still am. We are seeing fascism mainstreamed without any meaningful pushback from the institutions that should be shielding us from its influence.

Scary, scary shit.

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Written by David O'Brien on 2025-01-20 at 21:44

The Guardian called it out.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/20/trump-elon-musk-salute

@FantasticalEconomics @aral

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Written by Kyle Montanio on 2025-01-20 at 22:15

@iamdavidobrien @aral

Good. I respect The Guardian more than most these days. Glad they called it out.

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Written by Noodlemaz on 2025-01-20 at 23:03

@FantasticalEconomics @iamdavidobrien @aral only the US office sadly. UK one never got rid of its transphobes.

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Written by Le Proviseur :unverified: on 2025-01-20 at 22:19

@iamdavidobrien @FantasticalEconomics @aral In France, Libération did too

https://www.liberation.fr/international/amerique/investiture-de-donald-trump-euphorique-elon-musk-fait-deux-saluts-nazis-en-sadressant-a-la-foule-20250120_5RVXYGYLXNAM7HKBFX5VQCC4WU/

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Written by hambier on 2025-01-20 at 22:30

@iamdavidobrien @FantasticalEconomics @aral "appears to", "fascist-style".

Just put it in the damn headline, without weasel words. "Musk does multiple Nazi salutes at inauguration."

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Written by ➴➴➴Æ🜔Ɲ.Ƈꭚ⍴𝔥єɼ👩🏻‍💻 on 2025-01-21 at 02:46

@hambier @iamdavidobrien @FantasticalEconomics @aral There are limits to what you can say without getting a defamation lawsuit.

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Written by Agnieszka R. Turczyńska on 2025-01-20 at 22:34

@iamdavidobrien @FantasticalEconomics @aral Guardian has some spine. That's a surprise.

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Written by lashman on 2025-01-20 at 21:34

@aral sorry for linking to shitter, but ...

https://x.com/Telegraph/status/1881443087194693658

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Written by Fnordinger on 2025-01-20 at 21:55

@lashman @aral that’s pretty much the same though, just usually used in the context of Mussolini and Italian fascism. So Telegraph is apparently one of the good news outlets, calling it the way it is. Still waiting for Tagesschau in Germany…

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Written by Dr James Ravenscroft on 2025-01-20 at 21:34

@aral I thought you were doing a bit since the newspapers have been bending over backwards to comply early but no they are almost word-for-word saying this. Jeez

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Written by Maddler (the Badger) :sarcasm: on 2025-01-20 at 21:48

@jamesravey @aral "odd-looking salute" is one of the most convoluted ways of misrepresenting a nazi salute.

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Written by Johan Sköld on 2025-01-20 at 22:43

@maddler @jamesravey @aral I thought the same when i first saw it, and was telling a friend. But it seems they've changed the headline. It's now "Elon Musk accused of giving ‘Nazi salute’ at Trump inauguration celebration".

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Written by Maddler (the Badger) :sarcasm: on 2025-01-21 at 00:06

@jamesravey @aral plot twist!

(Yeah, I know that's even more crap)

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Written by Daarin on 2025-01-21 at 00:59

@maddler @jamesravey @aral

You are asking me to give the guy, that literally promoted the AfD*, the benefit of the doubt? Nope!

• AfD: Racist party in Germany, that uses Nazi-rhetorics and even that salute in their speeches to dogwhistle to their people.

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Written by Maddler (the Badger) :sarcasm: on 2025-01-21 at 01:18

@daarin @jamesravey @aral clarified previous post. That's pretty clear what that is.

Someone even said that's "just Elon Musk being autistic expressing his feelings".

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Written by Daarin on 2025-01-21 at 04:00

@maddler @jamesravey @aral Wasn't clear before, but in that case I don't mean you literally.

The name of that account sounds funny to a German Shadowrun player.

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Written by Thor A. Hopland on 2025-01-20 at 21:57

@jamesravey @aral "he described it as the nu-not seen movement and then tip toed away, grinning and twiddling a non-existent mustach."

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Written by Daarin on 2025-01-21 at 01:01

@hopland @jamesravey @aral

Dogwhistling. Sad, that mass media doesn't want to see it!

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Written by Aral Balkan on 2025-01-20 at 21:57

@jamesravey Yep, and the quote is from CNN.

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Written by Marko Lorentz on 2025-01-20 at 21:34

@aral Why is your arm giving involuntary Nazi salutes at inappropriate moments, Dr. Strangelove?

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Written by Mathieu Comandon on 2025-01-20 at 21:43

@aral no one on the mainstream or non mainstream media is questioning what kind of salute this is.

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Written by Aral Balkan on 2025-01-20 at 21:48

@mathieucomandon

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Written by anubis2814 on 2025-01-20 at 21:52

@aral @mathieucomandon How weird, such a mystery!!!

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Written by Mathieu Comandon on 2025-01-20 at 21:52

@aral "odd-looking salute" is in quotes, they just couldn't push themselves to write the real thing but they absolutely know

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Written by Aral Balkan on 2025-01-20 at 21:54

@mathieucomandon The quote “odd-looking salute” is attributed to CNN, by the way.

(The Independent has since updated their headline.)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-salute-trump-inauguration-b2683095.html

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Written by Mathieu Comandon on 2025-01-20 at 21:56

@aral they wanted to appear more honest but they are still dishonest since they also put Nazi in quotes

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Written by Rich Stein (he/him) on 2025-01-20 at 21:45

@aral

Article: Did Elon Musk Sieg Heil at Trump's inauguration?

https://www.jpost.com/international/article-838444

h/t @ai6yr

https://m.ai6yr.org/@ai6yr/113862721028834300

[#]politics #musk #nazis

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Written by anubis2814 on 2025-01-20 at 21:58

@aral We now know what the X stands for youtu.be/196h-nUrNB4?si=9NF86Z…

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Written by 🦋 Ben West - 🐒🌻 on 2025-01-20 at 21:59

@aral Its just half the x logo. You need two people to really make it work. 🙃✖️🙃

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Written by 📷 🖋 ~hyde on 2025-01-20 at 22:01

@aral Nazis were hidden on Mars, waiting to come back, we all know that ...

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Written by Daarin on 2025-01-21 at 01:03

@hyde @aral

What the f?

Can you please get your facts straight?

They are either hidden on the dark side of the moon or at Antarctica!

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Written by 📷 🖋 ~hyde on 2025-01-21 at 08:14

@daarin @aral i guess those who went to work for the NASA were on the moon, the ones in south Africa in Antarctica

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Written by Erik van Straten on 2025-01-20 at 22:13

@aral : it's definitely not Mecca.

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Written by joene 🏴🍉 on 2025-01-20 at 22:13

@aral Also here in case Musk deletes his own Nazi salute from his fascist man cave.

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Written by This Is Only A Test on 2025-01-20 at 22:18

@aral i don't understand how anyone thinks it isnt. He's proven he's a nazi sympathizer. He let's neo nazis have free reign on his platform, he is trying to subvert elections in UK and Germany to prop up a fascist. He is most definitely performing the nazi salute

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Written by Raph J #HelloQuitteX on 2025-01-20 at 22:25

@aral Heilon Musk

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Written by MaryShenanigans on 2025-01-20 at 22:47

@aral I saw it. How disgusting...

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Written by Kevin Russell on 2025-01-20 at 22:51

@aral

Billionaire media. Media was once just the same bunch a boys with similar investments, now billionaires have bought the media to direct what is said.

The Washington Post deleted editorial warning of trump fascism. As did the LATimes, whose journalists and editorial had written a multi-page warning and endorsement of Harris.

It is NOT mainstream media anymore, it is official oligarchy propaganda.

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Written by Bernie the Wordsmith on 2025-01-20 at 23:17

@aral NYT headline: "Musk continues his bad boy provocateur style in the-"

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Written by skua on 2025-01-21 at 05:06

@berniethewordsmith @aral

"Herr Hitler continues his bad boy provocateur style in his latest appearance ... ."

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Written by Judgment Dave on 2025-01-20 at 23:15

@aral

It’s just a wave. Why’s everyone so upset?

[#]USpol

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Written by noiseician 🍉 on 2025-01-20 at 23:24

@aral

absolutely predictable

@theceoofanarchism

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Written by rsp on 2025-01-20 at 23:30

@aral Woah...gotta see the video for full effect

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oN8FcX1PCv4

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Written by Rachel Greenham on 2025-01-20 at 23:34

@aral @AndreShouldBeWriting Normalise! Normalise! Let no clear show of fascism invade your eyes!

But please, always to be calling it enthusiasm

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Written by TheNovemberFella ✊🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦☸️🛰️🚀 on 2025-01-20 at 23:36

@aral Yup

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Written by Nicole Parsons on 2025-01-20 at 23:44

@aral

The last time that salute was popularized by the rich,...

45 million civilians died.

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/students-teachers/student-resources/research-starters/research-starters-worldwide-deaths-world-war

25 million military died.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

17 million died in the Holocaust

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims

2 out of 3 Jews were murdered. 6 million.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/jewish-losses-during-the-holocaust-by-country

https://www.thoughtco.com/number-of-jews-killed-during-holocaust-by-country-4081781

It ended the British Empire and cost over $4 trillion economically

https://www.britannica.com/event/World-War-II/Costs-of-the-war

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Written by bouriquet on 2025-01-20 at 23:48

@Npars01 @aral He thinks he’s going to take us back to the Gilded Age: watch our smoke as more fossil fuels get burned, taking the rest of the world down with us.

Can’t something be done in the World Court to stop this criminal?

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Written by EthicalProfessor on 2025-01-21 at 00:44

@Npars01 @aral

I wonder what Bibi will think when the felon turns his guns on the Jews?

Sooner or later, you know he will.

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Written by Nicole Parsons on 2025-01-21 at 00:58

@DrGeof @aral

Same.

What happens when Miriam Adelson's gambling empire is gifted to a Trump crony? She spent $100 million getting him elected.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/angry-trump-said-alienating-top-backers-including-miriam-adelson/

Or when Jeffrey Yass is arrested in Texas for reading banned books?

What happens when Larry Ellison's Oracle is gifted to Musk or Thiel in a forced sale?

Or when Schwarzman's hedge fund is handed to Vivek to control?

Or when the real estate holdings of Paul Singer are passed to antisemites like Tim Dunn & the Wilks Brothers?

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Written by domo :anarachy_demiboy: on 2025-01-21 at 07:47

@Npars01 @aral I wish it had ended the British empire. They are still in the top 5 currencies of the world and legally own 14 other countries. They lost some territory, but they are still very much unfortunately an empire.

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Written by marnanel on 2025-01-21 at 13:13

@domo @Npars01 @aral "legally own 14 other countries" is a hell of a stretch

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Written by Aral Balkan on 2025-01-21 at 13:40

@marnanel @domo @Npars01 Well, legal doesn’t imply moral or just.

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