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Written by Kate Morley on 2024-09-30 at 09:38

Later today Britain’s last remaining coal-fired power station will shut down, bringing to a close 142 years of power generation that began when the world’s first coal-fired power station, at 57 Holborn Viaduct in London, started operation on 12th January 1882.

When I created https://grid.iamkate.com in 2012, coal accounted for 40% of Britain’s power generation. It was overtaken by gas in 2015, nuclear and wind in 2016, and solar in 2019. As I write this, wind is producing 40% of Britain’s power.

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Written by paulwakeford on 2024-09-30 at 09:56

@kate I work in the building that’s now on that site. I’ll check if there’s any plaque etc tomorrow.

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Written by pa27 on 2024-09-30 at 10:06

@kate It's just a shame we are charged fossil fuel prices for what should be low cost renewables. UK has the highest commercial electricity cost in the world. Crazy.

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Written by Wiredfire on 2024-09-30 at 13:21

@pa27 @kate As I understand it a part of it is regulation weirdness but also a big chunk is that “low cost” renewables are low cost in operation but still require ongoing investment while we continue to transition to them.

Right now the benefits to end users aren’t financial, but hopefully will be in the longer term.

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Written by Nick Perks on 2024-09-30 at 10:23

@kate So key question - does coal lose its line on the dashboard, or stay there at permanent 0%?

(Thanks for the site).

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Written by MeaTLoTioN on 2024-09-30 at 10:55

@kate if wind is producing 40%, why aren't our bills 40% lower?! 🙂

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Written by Wiredfire on 2024-09-30 at 13:22

@meatlotion @kate Wind turbines cost money to build and maintain, with ongoing investment needed to further expand renewable energy sources is why 😉

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Written by Wolf480pl on 2024-09-30 at 14:15

@wiredfire @meatlotion @kate also AFAIK worn out wind turbine blades are a pain to safely dispose of

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Written by Wiredfire on 2024-09-30 at 15:32

@wolf480pl @meatlotion @kate I’ve heard that too. Seen the odd interesting project finding ways to re-use the blades as something else but that’s going to be a growing issue that will need a sensible solution. Granted that’s a small problem compared to storing nuclear waste or choking our atmosphere but still.

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Written by Wolf480pl on 2024-09-30 at 15:42

@wiredfire @meatlotion @kate tbh I wouldn't be so sure vs nuclear waste - I'd expect them to be much smaller in terms mass and expecially volume, but I don't have the numbers at hand.

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Written by Wiredfire on 2024-09-30 at 17:20

@wolf480pl nuclear waste is physically going to be smaller most likely but much much harder to store safely.

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Written by Craig Cohen on 2024-09-30 at 12:01

@kate There's a lot of doom and gloom with tbe state of the environment, so it's victories like this that help me regain some optimism 🙂

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Written by tiny_m on 2024-09-30 at 12:10

@kate 40% wind! I had no idea it was so high. That's amazing

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Written by O(SINT) Positive on 2024-09-30 at 13:29

@kate

Thank you for your work raising awareness and giving hope!

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Written by ⁂ Shevek ⁂ on 2024-09-30 at 13:40

@kate Esto le molará a @dictatriz incluida la web, si es que no la conoce ya.

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Written by MJ Dictatriz on 2024-09-30 at 13:47

@shevek hace un tiempo comenté en Twitter la reducción de emisiones del sistema eléctrico de UK, que consistió en cambiar carbón por gas mientras se invertía en renovables.

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Written by Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈 on 2024-09-30 at 13:47

@kate to think our ridiculous little island has achieved something positive for once.

It can happen

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Written by Steve Hill 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇪🇺 on 2024-09-30 at 15:36

@kate Aaaand, its gone! https://x.com/NationalGridESO/status/1840773737030762694

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Written by Samuel Leuenberger on 2024-09-30 at 15:45

@kate That's a nice dashboard, there's unfortunately a mischaracterisation of nuclear power in the info bubbles:

  1. Sellafield Pile 1 occured 70 years ago on a military reactor, it has no relation with civil nuclear power generation.

  1. Nuclear is an energy source even safer than wind, both are extremely safe compared to fossil power.

https://ourworldindata.org/safest-sources-of-energy

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Written by Mike Nelson Pedde on 2024-09-30 at 17:54

@kate This is great news, so long as the coal workers are cared for... 🌞

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Written by Marty Fouts on 2024-09-30 at 18:10

@kate I am curious: is there any documentation on when Britain stopped using coal for purposes other than generating electricity? Is there any significant coal burning for any of those purposes still?

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Written by ashpole on 2024-09-30 at 18:41

@kate @siracusa On the website it says zero Battery Storage, where would domestic batteries be shown that export like my Powerwall.

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Written by Axel Hartmann on 2024-09-30 at 18:46

@kate - meanwhile in Germany https://youtu.be/azEvfD4C6ow?si=vD4oYsFO-wKk9OOM

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Written by eribosot on 2024-09-30 at 19:53

@kate Sorry, couldn't resist.

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Written by Sam Bryan on 2024-09-30 at 20:02

@kate Timely XKCD

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Written by steve on 2024-09-30 at 20:25

@kate Also, at 17.00 today, the last batch of molten steel was poured into a crucible at the UK's last blast furnace in Port Talbot, South Wales.

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Written by Nate Vack 🍴 on 2024-09-30 at 20:54

@kate I read the other day that Britain's current carbon emissions are at the lowest rate since the late 19th century

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Written by Carl on 2024-09-30 at 21:31

@kate Historic!

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Written by Brian Litzinger on 2024-10-01 at 01:31

@kate by comparison the U.S. (in 2023) was powered by 60% fossil fuels.

Good job, America. So much winning.

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Written by Deirdre Saoirse Moen on 2024-10-01 at 10:16

@kate As someone who still has runnning code (from the 80s) in a coal-fired power plant, I long for its obsolescence.

The first one I worked on shut down four years ago: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conesville_Power_Plant (I worked on the scrubber software for 5 & 6).

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