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Written by Jeff Cutsinger on 2024-09-05 at 12:20

In light of the Internet Archive losing its appeal to hachette, I just wanted to point out some websites you should avoid:

If you were to download books from these websites, you might cut into hachette's more than three billion dollars of annual revenue. So make sure to avoid those websites and the following:

[#]internetarchive

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Written by AlexTECPlayz on 2024-09-05 at 13:27

@jeffcutsinger Also avoid libgen.li and libgen.rs, or any of its mirrors. Surely, we shouldn't affect the revenue of companies like these. God forbid they get less money.

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Written by 0mega 🧟‍♂️ [SK] on 2024-09-05 at 14:09

@jeffcutsinger@tenforward.social Thanks! I'll definitely make sure that I'm never going to visit those evil websites 👀

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Written by Artemis on 2024-09-05 at 15:08

@jeffcutsinger Thanks a bunch!! I’ll make sure to tell everyone I know to never go to these websites or their mirrors so as to not affect the bottom line of capitalists negatively. Long live FREEDOM!!

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Written by CatSalad🐈🥗 (D.Burch) :blobcatrainbow: on 2024-09-05 at 15:22

@jeffcutsinger Just want to point out that Z-Library is also on fedi at @Z_Lib_official , and has :tor:⁠Tor Onion services available.

📚⁠http://bookszlibb74ugqojhzhg2a63w5i2atv5bqarulgczawnbmsb6s6qead.onionz-Lib Articles

🔬⁠http://articles24t2d47kb6rbabobokvrnymh2smkleosntcu6qxou6sxewyd.onion

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Written by Shiorinyan on 2024-09-05 at 17:28

@jeffcutsinger considering my desire to hoard... and little money.. and that well, buying japanese books is needlessly overcomplicated... bless cute websites like these, that surely, no one should use :3

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Written by JLSigman on 2024-09-05 at 17:30

@jeffcutsinger You really think all authors are rich, huh?

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Written by Mary Hilton on 2024-09-05 at 17:38

@jeffcutsinger For shame, you're hurting Hachette's profits! (/s)

Thanks for the links, though!

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Written by Pedro Lucas Porcellis on 2024-09-05 at 17:41

@jeffcutsinger Bit out of the loop, where should we grab stuff now, then?

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Written by Todd A. Jacobs | Rubyist on 2024-09-05 at 18:47

@jeffcutsinger AI/ML data aggregators aren't sharing their data openly or adhering to the #FOSS licenses & #TOS of data they scrape from less litigious content creators. This is a criminal act.

Copyright theft hurts independent writers, bloggers, educators & journalists more than big media groups. This insults every open-source & open-content creator. #DRM isn't the answer, and neither is paying off big media. #OpenAI and others should either pay for that data, share alike, or exclude it.

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Written by Rafael - Yakultjapa on 2024-09-05 at 18:58

@jeffcutsinger If you can buy, try to find a way to send money direct to the authors, that way everybody win.

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Written by Amin Hollon 🏳 on 2024-09-05 at 19:19

@jeffcutsinger

Excellent PSA, I will studiously avoid all of these sites, as I of course have never visited any of them inn the past.

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Written by Different Drummer on 2024-09-05 at 19:28

@jeffcutsinger It would be such a tragedy...

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Written by Jesper Agdakx 🔸 on 2024-09-05 at 20:47

@jeffcutsinger Thanks, I'm bookmarking this just in case I'm ever not sure whether a website I am visiting is fine.

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Written by Alan Langford on 2024-09-05 at 21:00

@jeffcutsinger Perfect. Now building a list of sites to search for my work and file take-down requests against. Because when you're not one of the big four, every dollar counts, lots.

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Written by Jason Bowen on 2024-09-05 at 21:25

@jeffcutsinger Thank you for letting me know where to stay away from. I feel safer.

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Written by Rue Mohr on 2024-09-05 at 22:18

@jeffcutsinger If anyone sees someone trying to throw a brick thru the window of Hachettes headquarters at 1290 Avenue of the Americas, Midtown Manhattan, New York City, it would be good to stop them.

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Written by Rue Mohr on 2024-09-05 at 22:22

@jeffcutsinger ( we dont want David Shelley to not be able to share the company profits with its workers due to lost money on broken windows )

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Written by Artificial Stupidity on 2024-09-05 at 22:35

@jeffcutsinger

God's work! Warning people not to visit these awful sites!

@th3rdsergeevich

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Written by James Britt on 2024-09-05 at 22:45

@jeffcutsinger

Thank you for helping me stay on the right side of the law.

Likewise, people who visit video sites should definitely avoid yt-dlp.

And pay no attention to people who say it works on audio sites as well. They work for the devil.

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Written by FoxQuirk 🦊 on 2024-09-05 at 22:59

@jeffcutsinger thank you! I shall bookmark this for future reference

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Written by Nazani on 2024-09-05 at 23:00

@jeffcutsinger

IA is still my go-to for 19th century fashion journals & bizarre Victorian novels. Why pay for new historical fiction when one can read the craziness Great-Grandma read?

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Written by Dofain on 2024-09-05 at 23:01

@jeffcutsinger Wooops, my finger slipped and I retooted this by mistake

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Written by Clayfoot on 2024-09-05 at 23:35

@jeffcutsinger God forbid you learn what your local library system has to offer: ebooks, albums, movies, audio books, music streaming, free access to major newspapers and magazines online

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Written by Brian Dear on 2024-09-05 at 23:47

@jeffcutsinger

I did 32 fucking years of research and writing at ~$250K personal expense in order to get my tech history book, The Friendly Orange Glow, done. Pantheon, an imprint of one of the plaintiffs in this case, published my book in 2017.

I really don’t find it cool that pirates have illegal PDFs of my book on all the shit sites you list, I don’t care what Doctorow says: support the author and buy, don’t steal, their fucking book, costing same as a few microbrewery beers ffs.

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Written by jwithy :prami: on 2024-09-06 at 00:42

@brianstorms @jeffcutsinger

That’s a lot of time and money! Congrats on the book! I’ll go check it out!

I think a lot of what is coming out right now is that a ton of students in places where they absolutely can’t even dream of buying textbooks are now really hampered by that internet archive verdict. Links like this might be their next resort. What a bummer, yeah?

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Written by Brian Dear on 2024-09-06 at 02:15

@jwithy @jeffcutsinger

What publishers charge these days for textbooks, esp. college-level, is brutal, brazen, obscene. Driven by unchecked greed. It’s like blatant price-gouging and I’m surprised the Biden admin hasn’t stepped in to do something, the way he has for student loans.

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Written by Roberto von Archimboldi on 2024-09-07 at 08:44

@brianstorms @jeffcutsinger do let us know if your sales go up now that your publisher had their way.

Here's thing about non fiction, as you know, its audience is researchers. Putting together even a short paper takes years of work and a massive quantity of reading. You do that, and have always done that, by going to the library. Even well paid tenured academics don't have the money or the need to buy thousands of books just for the half chapter that might become a footnote. The evidence given by the internet archive is that the average loan was about 20 minutes.

Losing the open library restricts access to academia to those with an affiliation to a university that can afford the crazily expensive subscriptions to the big publishers. That is really sad in itself. It is also really about Hackette et al maintaining their ability to take rent from the work of researchers.

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Written by para_paramoney on 2024-09-29 at 10:22

@brianstorms @jeffcutsinger you seem to be blinded by your own personal suffering. Information should be free. You can still sell nice printed books, I will always keep buying physical books. But stop whining about a pdf of your book being online and making that into an argument against free knowledge sharing

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Written by Brian Dear on 2024-09-29 at 12:47

@para_paramoney @jeffcutsinger

wow. impressive. yeah, well, whatever.

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Written by queer lil bumble 🐝 on 2024-09-06 at 01:45

@jeffcutsinger thanks I'll be sure to never access these site nor download their contents!

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Written by tootbrute on 2024-09-06 at 01:58

@jeffcutsinger great. i'll just start my own personal internet archive that i will share with family and friends. #internetarchive

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Written by Eunakria on 2024-09-06 at 02:34

@jeffcutsinger regardless of where you stand on piracy, it is an unambiguous shame that the only major legal online library (which practices lending instead of digital copying) was shut down with a metaphorical side-eye at other, smaller legal online libraries, because it's only going to push people to pirate libraries like AA and ZL

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Written by Jonathan Moosekian on 2024-09-06 at 02:46

@jeffcutsinger @rose_alibi holy shit! When worlds collide!

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Written by rAdio frEe mETa :wa: on 2024-09-06 at 03:07

@jeffcutsinger Thank you for this comprehensive list. I was unsure about who I was going to blacklist and I guess it's going to be Hachette. To Freedom!

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Written by salguod, man 🍂🍁 lazysupper on 2024-09-06 at 04:15

@jeffcutsinger Thank you for this detailed warning!

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Written by Soozcat on 2024-09-06 at 05:34

@jeffcutsinger Bookmarking to ensure I never go to any of these places to pirate anything.

Arr. Uh, I mean yes.

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Written by Julianoë on 2024-09-06 at 08:49

@jeffcutsinger One I've not seen listed in Zlibrary, the domain of which tends to change regularly but other people have shared it in these responses.

Also be sure to avoid https://www.myanonamouse.net/ at all costs.

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Written by Julianoë on 2024-09-06 at 08:50

@jeffcutsinger @tk if any francophones see this response and have specifically francophone libraries to share, please do !

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Written by peotr26 on 2024-09-06 at 10:27

@jeffcutsinger Hachette also belongs to the most influential fascist billionaire in France, Bolloré, that used his media empire to push his reactionary agenda.

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Written by Le Podthécaire 🔻 on 2024-09-06 at 11:58

@jeffcutsinger Yeah, that would be bad.

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Written by rednikki on 2024-09-06 at 15:57

@jeffcutsinger @dwenius Piracy hurts authors and gets books cancelled. Maggie Stiefvater's Raven Cycle is just one example: https://shannonhale.tumblr.com/post/166954230215/maggie-stiefvater-ive-decided-to-tell-you-guys/amp

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Written by InternetDev-Anti-Communicant🍉 on 2024-09-07 at 03:07

@jeffcutsinger

J'ai faillis y aller, merci de m'avoir mis en garde !!!!

OUF !!!🤣

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Written by Sarah, The Website Therapist on 2024-09-07 at 03:23

@jeffcutsinger @stib just saying, for no particular reason, I’ve heard of people pirating music/books then making a donation directly to the artist/author which would be far more than a publisher would pass on.

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Written by Mehrad :kde: :emacs: :rstats: on 2024-09-10 at 06:55

@jeffcutsinger

Absolutely! No one should bookmark these websites, especially that despicable sci-hub.se that gives public access to science for free! How dare they! Keep them away from your address bar. Remember: no bookmarking, no telling others about them 🤫 .

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Written by xekola on 2024-11-13 at 13:23

@jeffcutsinger <3

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