Before Google decided to let extremists rename bodies of water, it used common sense.
From 2008: "...if a ruler announced that henceforth the Pacific Ocean would be named after her mother, we would not add that placemark unless and until the name came into common usage."
https://publicpolicy.googleblog.com/2008/04/how-google-determines-names-for-bodies.html
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This must have been part of the “Do no evil” section.
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@freediverx @dangillmor Yup, definitely before the "no" was removed from Do No Evil.
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Eric Schmidt's legacy. What happens when a company brings in “grown ups" to run the show.
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@freediverx @dangillmor They had to delete that to be a big serious corporation
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Si Donald Trump peut ordonner au service géologique américain (U.S. Geological Survey) de modifier la dénomination du golfe du Mexique, il est peu probable qu'un tel changement de nom soit reconnu au niveau international.
https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/les-etats-unis-rebaptisent-le-golfe-du-mexique-en-golfe-d-amerique-24-01-2025-2580746_24.php
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@dangillmor while everyone was paying attention to the shit his administration intentionally flooded the media cycle with, he ordered a stop to all activity relating to federal grants, including for scientific and engineering research.
So glad we were hearing about Greenland and the Gulf of Mexico instead.
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I assure you: Greenland is in the same magnitude as the federal grants.
EDIT: Got blocked for this post. Mentioning this so you wouldn't burn bridges without cause, like I apparently did.
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@dangillmor
Whatever happened to "Do no evil"?
Cuz they are doing the evil stuff.
[#]google #ericschmidt #sergeybrin
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@Ehay2k This isn't even the first time nor the most evil they have done so far. @dangillmor
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Oh my goodness, I don't think this would even come in to the top 500 evil things Alphabet has done.
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@Ehay2k @dangillmor "No" was such a negative word so they removed it from the motto.
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How many times can you say Maybe Later before you accidentally click the wrong one? (Google probably knows)
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@Ehay2k @dangillmor No Evil ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_evil#Lawsuit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Google#Ungoogleable
Nowadays in 2025 I am completely baffled to see people persist in using Google search and people still stick to phrases like e.g. "I googled for "Do no evil". WTF?
De-Google ought to be the new hype. #boycott #degoogle
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of course it is clear that alphabet inc licks orange holes.
but waters like sea belong to international waters, basically to no one or no country. so it is up to others to decide naming for those water areas. and there is no global or international authority to decide those names.
so, technically both names are wrong or both are correct.
practically, this naming is politicized by orange turd.
btw, word "america" refers to continent, not just usa.
what about "gulf of canada".
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@dangillmor Fascism is just corporatism. Google never cared about anything but maintaining its position.
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@theempireisfragile @dangillmor It is extremely worrying to see that all the companies are ready to bow to Trump, just as if there was already no more democracy and his will had to be abide without discussion.
This is exactly how dictatorship comes into power, because no one resist when they can.
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I would beg you to drive the analysis further. If you pay attention to to how fascism rose around ww2, it came up as a syncretic collaboration between liberals capitalists and authoritarianism. Germany was going through a real strange scientific and economic growth that was extracted at the cost of the oppression of the masses.
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It’s like the joke: a liberal, a fascist, a communist, and an anarchist are stuck in a room. The liberal has a gun with one bullet, what does he do?
He gives it to the fascist.
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@theempireisfragile @dangillmor funny... But not so funny these days ...
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I did not realize Google(a private commercial corporation) has such public power to name things geographically.
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Naming things geographically requires consensus of everyone who makes maps. Not even the US president has that kind of power.
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@dangillmor It's because #techbros all enjoy #cheetojizz. I cannot believe how quickly these companies bent the knee to the wannabe dictator.
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@dangillmor Of course, that was LONG before the company was handed over to a McKenzie man.
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@dangillmor I would go even further. I remember when Google encouraged intellectual pursuits. It encouraged people to gain a better understanding of the world. I miss the unprofitable web. It seemed more ethical when it was idealistic.
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@dangillmor fortunately both Apple and Openstreetmaps have better maps, with better topographical representation, colors and symbols.
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We need to review bomb and flood google maps with bug reports and support tickets stating there is no such body as "Gulf of America" (Edit for Typo)
[#]reviewbombgooglemaps
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Terravision should have stayed where it belongs.
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@dangillmor Open Source maps like @OpenStreetMapUS are your friends
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@dangillmor How does on boycott Google?
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@dangillmor What body of water are we talking about? I checked on a few devices, and maps and the Gulf of mexico is still named that if thats what your talking about
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@dangillmor As of this moment, it is still showing Gulf of Mexico.
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@dangillmor Just keep on Gulf of Mexico-ing
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@dangillmor "Before the dark times, before the Empire."
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@dangillmor please archive it in webArchive before they edit this post
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@dangillmor Did I miss something? It still looks like Gulf of Mexico when I check it.
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@dangillmor Well for some time Google was labeling a body of water in the Middle East as the Arabian Gulf despite having been called the Persian Gulf for millennia. In fact it’s still there in parentheses. Money talks.
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@dangillmor #GulfOfMexico is still in 'common usage', is it not?
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/me petitions the EU parliament to rename it the Gulf of Greenland in European English.
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@dangillmor yeah but now it is the Usa that wants it.
Then Orange leader says make it so.
What a word we live in
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And we all know, especially those of us who suffered the Google-for-your-domain bait-and-switch fiasco, that this is a corporation bubbling with integrity 😔
"Before doing evil, rebrand it."
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@dangillmor
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@dangillmor think that’s still the case for google earth. Not sure if it ever was for google maps.
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@dangillmor they renamed it? I (PA) am still getting the Gulf of Mexico.
Anyway, in case they did, I am henceforth officially declaring it the Gulf of Fucktrump.
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@dangillmor Yes, that was when Google 'wasn't evil'
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@dangillmor shareholders baby, shareholders.
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@dangillmor also please use OpenStreetMap. Enough said.
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@dangillmor Bingo. That's what I was trying to find. I originally met Andrew at Google and he's a great guy. Long since left Google.
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@dangillmor is this post just click bait? I think so, unfollowing
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@dangillmor yeah, the subtle part is that it says "she", and a guy did it. So, done.
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@dangillmor
That does only apply to metric rulers, not to imperisl rulers.
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@dangillmor this Blogpost goes against the statement from Google I read. In it the team says all names for US clients come from the Geopraphic Names Information System (GNIS) and if something is changed there it also changes in maps.
So Google is not actively doing anything. I guess somewhere between 2008 and now they realized it's a lot cheaper to just get the names from an open source and not do all the work by themselves.
So all we can blame Google for this time is being lazy.
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@dangillmor
I read the article about this waterbody in the English wikipedia. My question is, is there a non-colonial name for it? Maybe not, but would be interesting to know.
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@dangillmor the tech industry is a shell of its former self. There's not even the veneer of "making the world a better place" anymore. Tech leaders don't care about the world, let alone making it better. I can't imagine wanting to work for these people anymore
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@dangillmor i want a word about Google and his way to name places in the world.
I'm catalan and I work in the tech industry with a major online player (or a bit less 😉). I requested my own company to update the names of towns in Catalunya that they were showing, because they were still the Franco's ones. There was a time when the Spanish fascists changed the names of some towns in Catalunya. Google is the Source of Truth of these names in my company, so here we have it.
There was a time when Google was in the Don't Be Evil side of things.
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@dangillmor
Google is just reminding the public that it is an Advertising Company, and everything it does is for sale.
And sometimes they have search results that you may or may not find useful.
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@dangillmor The billionaires are all aligned in supporting right wing extremism. It is incumbent on us to stop supporting those companies before they're turned fully against the population.
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@dangillmor Was that back when they promised to never be evil?
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Proposing that everyone forthwith refers to the White House as The Dearth of Sanity. Let's get that on the map people!
[#]GulfOfMexico
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@dangillmor but that was BEFORE they bribed whatever shitshow is now in charge.
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@dangillmor the paragraph before is also very significant: "By saying "common", we mean to include names which are in widespread daily use, rather than giving immediate recognition to any arbitrary governmental re-naming."
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