if white websites burn your eyes out but they didn't a few years ago, it might just be that you haven't noticed that screens have gotten way brighter the last several years and out of habit you turned your screen brightness up enough to overpower the sun
if you turn it down, it might look way too dim in the moment, but give your eyes a few minutes to adjust and it'll probably look perceptually the same again. People look at my screenshots and say "how can you stand light mode?!" but my laptop brightness is at like 40% and my iPad is often as low as 10%. Bonus: battery magically doubles in capacity
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@0xabad1dea My main display has automatic brightness control built in. I like this feature a lot.
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@0xabad1dea For the every day usage I have my screen set to the lowest possible setting. I only make it brighter for playing some games.
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@0xabad1dea I use the Dimmer app, which adds an overlay to Android, to reduce the screen brightness to lower than this possible on the phone normally. It's great for reading in a less brightly lit room
I like NewPipe for a similar reason to watch YouTube, as it puts the screen brightness controls on the left half of the screen, in full screen mode, so I can adjust the screen brightness as I'm watching. (right is volume)
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@webhat @0xabad1dea The Pixels have an Extra Dim setting, I'm not sure if all Android phones have it or not though. I use dark mode for everything and then I setup Tasker to automatically enable Extra Dim when the Night Light setting turns on at dusk. Bedtime Mode kicks on at 11pm automatically as well.
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@CarRamrod @0xabad1dea really, I have a pixel and Dimmer still dims the screen more
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@CarRamrod @0xabad1dea this is a screenshot of the dimmest setting
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@webhat @0xabad1dea Oh wow that is definitely darker than what I can accomplish with this setup. I my eyes wouldn't be able to read that unfortunately 😞
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I can only read the darkest setting in a completely dark room, even then it can be quite challenging depending on tiredness. Still even at the brightness I read at at night in bed my phone basically looks off in bright light, so I'm had to practice signing in with basically a black screen and navigate the UI by muscle memory alone to turn the Dimmer off 😅
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@webhat @0xabad1dea What is the full app name? I'd like to check it out but didn't see it when I searched the Play Store.
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@CarRamrod @0xabad1dea it's not on the playstore, you can find it on @fdroidorg
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@webhat @0xabad1dea @fdroidorg I saw that, but wasn't sure about it since it was last updated 9 years ago.
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@webhat @0xabad1dea @fdroidorg Welp so much for the idea, it won't let me install as the version of Android is too new for it.
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@CarRamrod @0xabad1dea @fdroidorg that's strange, I have a Pixel 6 with Android 15 and I can run it fine
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@CarRamrod @0xabad1dea @fdroidorg if you have one job, there's little you need to update once it works
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@webhat @0xabad1dea @fdroidorg Hmm yeah it won't let me install the app for being too old for my P9P on Android 15.
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@CarRamrod @0xabad1dea @fdroidorg sorry about that, I wrote an update for the app sometime ago. It made the app using later Android APIs, it was worse than the one using the older APIs, as the overlay doesn't cover the Android navigation at the bottom. You could try it, I'll have to see whether I still have and APK for it tho 🙄
https://github.com/webhat/dimmer
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@webhat @0xabad1dea @fdroidorg Ah it requires SDK version 24 so it still failed. Oh well, I appreciate your help though!
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@CarRamrod @0xabad1dea @fdroidorg no problem, sorry I couldn't help
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@0xabad1dea that reminds me of the dimmable LED bulbs these days... they* don't dim down anywhere near as far as a filament bulb with an old style dimmer. When I turn the bed light to its lowest setting from its highest then sure, it's like "ooo, dark mood lighting"... but within about 5 minutes the old eyes have adjusted and it's actually plenty bright enough to read words on paper like its the olden days.
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@0xabad1dea iPhones have whitepoint adjustment under accessibility options. It works a lot better for me than turning the brightness down.
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@0xabad1dea I had not thought about that until now! I just leave my devices on auto brightness and correct them once in a while when they get too bright or dim. The battery bonus is so real too!
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@0xabad1dea Mine is always at 0% unless I'm color grading and have to calibrate the monitor. Yet 0 feels bright sometimes.
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@0xabad1dea This is absolutely gonna depend on your eyes, but at least I've found that I actually find light mode easier to read on than dark mode.
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@Owlor
Same! I hate it when sites only have dark mode with no option for light mode.
@0xabad1dea
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@0xabad1dea I think my PC monitors are on the lowest possible brightness.
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@0xabad1dea thinking about how my phone turns the screen to 100% brightness whenever i open the camera or try to crop an image
very fun in dark rooms when the brightness goes from 0 to flashbang in half a second
also fun that half the time it does not properly re-set the original brightness when i close that app
ough
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@0xabad1dea Good advice. I would still rather read black text on white background than anything else.
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@0xabad1dea I will go back to light mode when reflective passive screens are affordable. and widely available. 😁
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@0xabad1dea
I just experienced this when running through calibrating a desktop monitor. I did all the things and then ended up at about 50% brightness, scratching my head- ‘huh… that’s correct…’ .
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@0xabad1dea I always turn my screen right down as low as it will go on everything. On full you could use screens these days to light up football grounds.
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@0xabad1dea or it’s that I’m aging. Or maybe it’s that we can all learn to tolerate the brightness and just don’t want to, and that’s okay.
Bonus: I’m not on a laptop, there’s no battery.
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@0xabad1dea I started using what's now called "Dark mode" a bit over 20 years ago, because using black text on white background even with my monitors set to 0% brightness and around 50% contrast my eyes would start hurting after a while. After some tweaking I ended up using Windows' high contrast mode with low contrast colours (high contrast mode makes the colour scheme apply to nearly all programs, including eg. Office).
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@0xabad1dea My computer always has night light on which gives it this faint orangey-brown hue. I tried turning it off for a moment and have two comments: one, that is very very white, and two, I know why they call it blue light now.
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@0xabad1dea
I could use light mode, if it wasn't grey text on a beige page with a #6 font,
The perfect example, for those of you on linux, Synaptic GUI is nearly unusable to my old eyes, even after messing with GTK stuff
PDF's are terrible for usability, other than the TOC
Epub is the best, the text adjusts to the page
My settings brightness 40, page zoom 150%, 18 font, dark theme, dark reader, does my battery last even longer since substantially less electrons are being irritated :D
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@0xabad1dea I always have night mode enabled in my work laptop, helps a lot.
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@0xabad1dea Blue light filters help as well! And turning down the amount of blue in Display Settings helps too!
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@0xabad1dea
A good trick is to down it from 80% to say 30%, look at it for a minute and then uppen it to 50%, so it looks brighter again.
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@0xabad1dea I dim mine and use night mode any time I'm not processing photos.
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@0xabad1dea omggg someone gets it🥹
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@0xabad1dea I regularly reset my sound levels in a similar fashion. At a commercial break or whatever interruption, I turn the volume back down to zero, then when the show is on again I turn it up into I'm comfortable.
It creeps up when somebody talks over it, a plane goes by, whatever and you don't remember to turn it back down after the interruption. With ADHD rampant at our house there's also an element of "I can't concentrate on it unless it's blotting out all the distractions".
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@0xabad1dea
Yeah, I really prefer high-contrast black on white, and I don't like reading dark mode. But like you I keep track of screen brightness, and even (gasp) adjust it up or down relative to room brightness.
That's another important factor in legibility, how much your eyes have adjusted to everything surrounding the screen.
Books and printed matter do this naturally, it's called reflective light, but for screens you need to pay some attention.
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@0xabad1dea I've noticed that sites that use grey text on a white background are awful unfriendly for my eyes.
Please make sites at least have an option for black text on white background.
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@0xabad1dea
"if white websites burn your eyes out but they didn't a few years ago"
To give you a look into the current state of the united States I thought this line was going in a very different direction..... 😂😢🙁
@catsalad
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@0xabad1dea I was inspired by this to go check the brightness on this phone, but turns out it's all the way down already. Probably correlated with my preference for light mode :)
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@0xabad1dea @mos_8502 First thing I do on a new device is turn off automatic brightness and make the brightness slider as quickly accessible as possible, since I adjust that about as often as I do the volume. Extremely worthwhile. Those battery savings are real as hell, and it can also keep your device from overheating, as a display at max brightness generates a lot of heat.
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@0xabad1dea I've been inspired to try light mode. I've got my phone to switch between the two at sunrise and sunset along with adaptive brightness and quick access to an "extra dim" function.
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@0xabad1dea i'm on 12% brightness and still use dark mode, idk what you're on about
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@0xabad1dea This is true actually. They're intentionally setting screens brighter than they used to because they sort of look better at first that way. Especially on the store shelves. Most need to be greatly reduced.
Though, I want to say that I've always found darker views to be easier overall on the eyes. I've been using computers for a very long time and started reading on them long before there were convenient programs for it, ultimately settling on light gray (C0C0C0 or 192/192/192) on black as being the overall easiest on my eyes for long sessions of reading. It has made me so happy that so many sites now actually let us set a dark mode (and unhappy that making the browser force dark mode apparently enables a type of fingerprinting so has to be disabled to harden the browser.)
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@0xabad1dea Way back when, I put some care into setting up my monitors. I didn't particularly care about the exact settings values, but I made sure that the resulting image was good, focusing on grayscales.
The result being a comfortable viewing brightness and clear distinction with 4%(1/26) difference in brightness value.
I highly recommend it.
(Here's the grayscale guide I followed. Do make note of the original settings just in case the result is not to your liking. https://www.photofriday.com/info/calibrate)
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@0xabad1dea It was always a dumb fad and it's finally dying out.
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@0xabad1dea I never looked into the lumen output of the screens I’m using, but I do routinely set the brightness to 40-50% to turn reduce the burning glare of a thousand suns incinerating my looky-balls
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@0xabad1dea Tru. I never use maximum brightness, in my phone Im usually at 30% or the minimum at night, and in my laptop (which is quite old) Im normally at 50% in the day, 20% in the night. It feels good, I don't get why they make screens brighter :___D
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@0xabad1dea unfortunately i'm under the impression that desktop monitors have a much higher minimum brightness than most laptops nowadays...
when i'm not actually watching/playing something i use "0%" backlight and it's still too bright in dark mode for me at night, even with moderate ambient lighting
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@0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange yup, same
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@0xabad1dea Some modern screens being able to be set to nearly ambient brightness is the coolest thing, looking at a piece of paper practically.
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@0xabad1dea I just wish every site supported dark mode properly.
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@0xabad1dea
This has to be the weirdest excuse for not using dark mode I've ever read.
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@WarmasterPalak sorry what? do you also passive-aggressively call it an "excuse" when someone prefers a different flavor of soda from you?
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Not at all. I use your reaction to my comment to guage the quality of your character. A bad idea, indeed.
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