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Q2. I'm trying to go entirely #carfree I have a lovely cargo ebike (Globe Haul ST) that I can use in good weather. But I live in #StLouis where we get a large variety in weather. This week is a little extreme, but for example, it's been below freezing all week, and snowy.
Is there anyone that lives in a similar clime and bikes rain, sleet, or snow? Freezing or boiling? And if so, how do you do it?
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@nix A2. Ice is pretty rare here in our section of Northern CA, but it can be rainy in the winter.
Rain prep involves hardening the bikes a bit - fenders, wet chain lube if I remember. Lights and waterproof panniers too.
Clothing: Rain jacket, rain pants, waterproof shoes, and sometimes waterproof socks. And then having a system to be able to dry it all is helpful too. I bought a small shoe/glove dryer and it's nice!
(edit: neoprene waterproof gloves too!)
@kimu might have better tips for navigating the snow, though it looks like it can still be pretty challenging sometimes!
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@ascentale @nix A2) It's a nice thought but I'm mindful of my limits. #BikeNite
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@ascentale @nix A2: Seattle, and rain only - but all you need for that is a good coat. I have thought about getting some kind of full-face/wraparound helmet tho' too.
Snow, certainly not here. People mostly don't drive in snow here either. We're tooooooooo hilly.
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@ascentale @nix A2. I think St Louis is similarish to Nashville but maybe a bit colder? My personal thing is to know my limits and have back up plans (bus, getting a ride). If riding is going to make me miserable or be unsafe, I usually go with a back up. Mostly. We don’t have enough ice and snow here to justify studded tires but I’ve thought about it. #BikeNite
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@ascentale @nix @kimu love the idea of using a dryer, must invest
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@ascentale @nix
Cold focused:
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@itamarst @ascentale @nix I wonder the etymology of "pogies"? #BikeNite
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I know this one,
Pogies were originally invented by kayakers for their paddles, there was a baitfish in the SE coastal US called a pogie, and pogies were jokingly named after it. It then carried over to bikes.
The paddling version was named around 1973
PS BarMitts brand are only good for wet cold, other, non-neoprene brands are good for places with cold cold
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@Coldbike @meganL @itamarst @ascentale @nix cool! Thanks 🙏🏼
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My #winterbike is a Specialized mountain bike, hardtail. I ran normal knobby tires for a few years, but with increasing freeze-thaws, I've switched to studded tires. I've used Schwalbe Icespikers or 45North (prefer the Schwalbes).
Lot's of fancy lights, for visibility. My fave: coloured Xmas lights duct-taped to the frame. Makes kids happy when I ride by!
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@ascentale @nix Huh, also - custom panniers on the front wheel. That's interesting. How's that working for you?
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@ascentale @nix A2. I bike in almost all conditions (not big on rain or when the snow is so deep my tires can't get traction).
It's doable with the right gear/clothing and taking extra time for warming up/cooling down. Also strategically not going anywhere too formal lmao.
I made my own pogies/handlebar mitts out of neoprene laptop sleeves from the dollar store, and they are probably my most essential equipment for cold weather.
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@nev @ascentale @nix Very cool on on the homemade pogies. You're the second person I've heard of doing that. Someone in our local safe streets advocacy group made some that looked really nice!
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@nev @ascentale I'd love to see photos of these, especially of how they're assembled
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@nix @ascentale laptop sleeve pogies!
They're basically just L shapes. One opening is where the handlebars go in and has heavy-duty Velcro sewn to the inside edges, one is for the hands and just has each edge folded over and stitched for a clean edge.
The hardest part was the actual sewing as the neoprene and Velcro are very thick and I didn't have a machine at the time, so it's all by hand.
For extra warmth, can throw one of those chemical hand-warmer packets into each.
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@nev @ascentale @nix I second wanting to see these and any guidance or patter you used.
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@nev @ascentale @nix Here's my friend Keith, with the bikelane snowplow he built. It actually works!
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@HyL @ascentale @nix oh my god
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@nev @ascentale @nix If I could share video, your jaw would be on the floor...
I think some has been shared on Nobody Bikes in Winter (Instagram @yegwinterbike)
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@HyL @nev @ascentale @nix
Hi Keith.
I love you. Stay awesome.
We need more Keiths!
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@chu
I'll tell him!
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@ascentale @nix A2. Depends on a lot of factors like specifics of weather, type and duration of riding, your bike, and your sensitivity. I'm in Seattle and for general utility riding, fenders and lights are really important. Rarely snows so I've never bothered with studded tires, but hear they work well.
I have waterproof coat and pants for real rain, but lighter gear for light rain (which is typical for Seattle). I also have various levels of layering I can do to keep me warm. #bikenite
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@ascentale @nix A2. I don't live in that climate, though maybe it gets hotter in Atlanta summers. I'm almost exclusively bike transport only; the main thing is really around planning and preparation. Specifically for the cold, layers that you can open up are critical so you don't overheat. Wool is nice for the wet.
Definitely something to ease into to figure out what clothes work for you or not. For example, I can't do rain jackets or I sweat to death.
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@ascentale @nix Boston gets cold, snow, rain, wind in the winter. Bar mitts/pogies for my (bare) hands, good down to 15-20F. Shoes/boots, wool socks. Stretch polarfleece hat, also stretch polarfleece tights if it is below 20F. Balaclava for 15-20F and below. Gloves in pogies below 15.
Studded tiers for ice; looked at your bike, not sure where to get 20" x 3.5-ish studs.
Schwalbe will get you to 20" x 2.15. Normally I say "just a front tire" but w/ a 1.35" difference in height...
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@ascentale @nix A2. The other thing I’ll add on this is: the biggest element besides safety in dealing with weather conditions is attitude. How I think about weather conditions + biking now is dramatically different than last year or 2 years ago. You get more comfortable with different weather through practice. #BikeNite
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@ascentale @nix
A2) I'm tempted to answer like clothes or bikes or accessories are the solution. But think about process.
Don't try to change everything all at once.
Be kind to yourself. Give yourself a break. Lots of breaks.
Work towards your goal gradually, and discover what works for you.
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@ascentale
A2: do you have children to carry around?
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There is no such thing as bad weather, just a lack of appropriate clothing. So having good rain gear and good winter gear is essential for riding in all conditions. I will try to ride the next 3 days, but they're predicting -35F windchills, so it may be a challenge.
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@ascentale @nix A2: Freezing AND boiling here at different times of year! IDK, you just keep going, except in very extreme weather, wear proper clothes, hydrate, accept you’ll go a little slower & that you’ll be a little uncomfortable. I think that last part is really important — you’re just going to be uncomfortable sometimes & that’s the cost of entry. #BikeNite
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@ascentale @nix A2. Lots of great advice in the responses. I’ll add that for anyone thinking about winter cycling in any areas that puts salt on the roads in winter to deal with ice, take care to keep your bike clean. Road salt will beat your cycle up badly!
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I bought a bucket yesterday to fill with water for this reason.
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@ascentale @nix A3 hijack- Context: biking to work 30-45 minutes in 30-40 F weather here in CA at 20 mph (ebike). I tried two different pairs of snowboarding gloves, yet my finger tips get painfully cold. I'm starting to think my blood pressure meds may be partially at fault. I wore a plastic bag over ONE hand to experiment/prove see if it was wind blowing through the gloves and to my surprise, it was NOT wind. Next week: I dug out reusable (salt) heater packs to stuff into the gloves. #BikeNite
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@trouble @ascentale @nix which meds? I was assuming mine were keeping my fingers warm (‘sartan drugs expand capillaries as I understand it). Also, bar mitts are good.
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@dr2chase @ascentale @nix I'm on beta blocker Atenolol(Tenormin). My HR hasn't really changed, but the pressure has. I occasionally have feet swelling issues, but it's pretty minor. I have but rarely use compression socks (but always on planes!). If there's some minor disregulation of whatever nerves are involved wrt swelling in extremities, maybe that's related? Maybe, I should try compression gloves? but most seem more about compressing the hands and wrists than the finger tips. #BikeNite
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@trouble @ascentale @nix Pogies (bar mitts) provide a huge amount of insulation. Better than any snowboarding gloves imho. And stackable with them.
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@ascentale @nix Look up @mommypedals
She has a family in Edmonton, totally car-free, lives in a suburb, works in the core. Has an Urban Arrow & a Bunch. If she can do it....
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A2: I ride regular bikes, so no battery to worry about.
Just gotta dress for the weather, take good care of all the moving parts, and be prepared to be a bit wet sometimes!
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@ascentale @nix
A2.
Water and water and a sport drink for hot weather. And sunscreen.
Layers and layers for cold weather.
For rain, when its not windy, I love my rain cape. Also wear safety goggles since I wear eyeglasses
I've only used them a few days, but I am now swearing by "pogies". They help so much with the cold and wind.
Gloves make a difference in heat because of the sweat. Full gloves in the cold help with warmth.
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@ascentale @nix On an early ride over froz terrain currently. Lots of thin layers and wind proof light jacket. Have booty covers
Nose froz only concern
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