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Written by John Allsopp on 2025-01-17 at 00:37

Some PM at Google is looking like a genius today as Gemini adoption soars in gmail because it is a huge PITA to turn off (option buries miles deep in setting)

Meanwhile Proton the front runners for my migration away from Gmail turn out to be terrible folks, Fastmail have very poor labor relations to say the least–where should I go?

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Written by Ben on 2025-01-17 at 00:38

@johnallsopp I genuinely don’t know, but I’m also looking for alternatives to Proton. Real bummer to see that happen.

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Written by Ryan Castellucci :nonbinary_flag: on 2025-01-17 at 00:45

@sangster @johnallsopp I self host mine, but it is an exercise in masochism

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Written by Joshix on 2025-01-17 at 00:46

@johnallsopp i'm happy with @mailbox_org

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Written by Jeff Sikes on 2025-01-17 at 00:48

@johnallsopp I am with Proton and have been disappointed with their path both product and politic. But like you I have no idea where to go next! Not gonna self host.

Following, hopeful to see some recommended options.

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Written by CM Thiede on 2025-01-17 at 00:54

@johnallsopp it will answer anything you ask it too! Don't put much stock in those generative comebacks though.

https://researchbuzz.masto.host/@danlyke/113838795609623667

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Written by Nick “Super High I.Q.” —fail-fast :donor: on 2025-01-17 at 00:57

@johnallsopp Coincidentally today i weighed Tuta Mail formerly Tutanota vs Fastmail after cancelling my #Proton sub which lapses in April.

Cost-wise, for my usage, it's tuta by long shot, more features for less money.

Will have to shop for a vpn (mullvad seems to be the one bandied about these parts)

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Written by Joshua Iz on 2025-01-17 at 01:01

@johnallsopp

What happened with Proton??

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Written by Stephen Collins on 2025-01-17 at 03:03

@joshuaiz @johnallsopp CEO has been making Trumpist statements in public and the company is not doing so well in taking a stand.

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Written by Elly Loel on 2025-01-17 at 06:09

@trib @joshuaiz @johnallsopp nooooo 🥲

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Written by Pete Prodoehl 🍕 on 2025-01-17 at 01:55

@johnallsopp Some options...

https://rhizospherelabs.com/@mathias/statuses/01JHQX5E8ETEHZXWYBMMQT2JBP

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Written by Paddy on 2025-01-17 at 02:03

@johnallsopp wait you can turn it off

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Written by Alex H :firefox: VA7OMM CN89 on 2025-01-17 at 05:01

@paddy @johnallsopp

Don't leave us hanging - how does one turn it off?

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Written by John Allsopp on 2025-01-17 at 05:45

@ajh @paddy still haven’t worked it out!

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Written by Paddy on 2025-01-17 at 16:22

@johnallsopp @ajh I'm trying this right now https://narrativ.es/@janl/113844601507403292

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Written by Dan Dean on 2025-01-17 at 02:33

@johnallsopp Not ideal for most folks probably, but I think I might move email to an iCloud custom domain.

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Written by Sarah E Bourne on 2025-01-17 at 02:38

@johnallsopp I've been using runbox.com for a number of years. Their interfaces are so-so, but you can use any mail client. Reliable, good support (needed only when I migrated.)

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Written by Stephen Collins on 2025-01-17 at 03:01

@johnallsopp ethical purity is hard, isn’t it? And ultimately futile under current conditions.

Do you go to the European-domiciled company with the Trump-sycophant CEO or the Australian company with US-data centres and questionable labor relations?

I have found that https://european-alternatives.eu is often a good place to start looking.

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