Two years ago, #EDPS embarked on a pioneering journey launching a pilot project of two decentralised social media platforms: #EUVoice & #EUVideo.
18 May will mark the end of the project. Time to review the results of this successful story.
Read Press Release https://europa.eu/!yJqDgK
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@EDPS
It looks like it is time for a change in the EU. Everybody fully knowing they operate against the law while breaking GDPR should be in full personal responsibility. These people are mostly the ones killing decentralized projects where people control their data.
So much money are burned for senseless things there and they are unable to operate a few servers?
Hopefully media is making a huge story out of it so the election in June is a chance for a massive change.
Unbelievable.
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@EDPS This is very regrettable, if the project is so successful, why not expand it and make it permanent?
cc @echo_pbreyer
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@AstaMcCarthy @EDPS Indeed we should follow up in the next term
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@EDPS could you explain what this sentence means?
we have been unable to secure new ownership to maintain the servers
Ownership of what? Does this means that these were so far not your servers?
@EU_Commission has quite a few servers for their websites and programs so I'm having a hard time imagining how keeping two more services would not be possible...
Anyway, that's really quite sad.
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@EDPS this is really unfortunate, to say the least.
I appreciate that you embarked on this project. Thank you for taking that risk!
The fact that all of the European Commission cannot find an agency to own it and continue maintaining it is unfathomable.
Especially in the context of how digital sovereignty gets so much lip-service from the Commission.
EC's priorities seem upside-down.
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@rysiek @EDPS
EC's priorities seem upside-down.
Unfortunate, but extremely par for the course.
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@pettter @rysiek @EDPS
Reading between the lines, it seems that people in charge of funding don't understand the point of self-hosted social media. They just think "more/easier followers on commercial centralised services" and don't think any further about how those follows are manipulated and held hostage through algorithms etc.
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@FediThing @pettter @rysiek @EDPS they'll probably "successfully" move to 'federated' threads 🤮
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@luka @pettter @rysiek @EDPS
Yeah, I'm wondering how many others will be "fediwashing" their accounts by moving to Meta's platform.
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@FediThing I am sooo stealing that term from you.
@luka @pettter @EDPS
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@rysiek
Haha, feel free! 😁
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Yeah great term. But wait a second, I remember suggesting to people people who think the Threads integration is a great thing that organizations moving their accounts to Threads was a likely outcome if the largest Mastodon instances federated, and they assured me that there was nothing to worry about on this front! So how can this be happening? 🤔
@FediThing @rysiek
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@luka @pettter @rysiek @EDPS
By the way, let's not get too depressed about this. Remember when Protonmail made an announcement they were withdrawing from the Fediverse, but then they came back again a while later?
At the very least, the EU now knows that the Fedi exists, that they have an alternative if decision-makers start being uncomfortable with Meta etc. When people have tried something they are way more likely to do it again.
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@EDPS you should reconsider. Having your own instance means we know these accounts are legit, and boost trust. If you crowdsource, I will even contribute. Cc @rysiek
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@alberto_cottica same, even though I suspect crowdsourcing is legally difficult for an EU institution like @EDPS.
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@EDPS so this means you'll be working for commercial platforms that do not ensure privacy from now on... Probably it's time to defund you since you're clearly not fulfilling your purpose.
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@EDPS Sad. Re:
The EDPS will facilitate the required migration of EUIs who wish to keep their accounts active in the Fediverse
Do you need fediverse instance admins to volunteer their instances to host the migrating accounts? Do you already have adequate target instances for everyone?
[#]FediMeta #EUpolicy
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@EDPS
@EU_Commission 👎🏻
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@EDPS Really great that the pilot was a success! It's super sad that the #EU will stop with Mastodon and PeerTube now because of resources since it was a success. It's sad that there are resources to maintain presence on #BigTech social media but not here. Thank you anyway for at least trying this with a pilot!
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@EDPS@social.network.europa.eu "Successful"
I beg your pardon? 🤨
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@EDPS Are you kidding? I hope you have been hacked and this is just a sad joke. Otherwise this would be very disappointing and obviously the wrong path to take. Unsure what such actions tell about your competence in this space, but I fear nothing good.
Goes to show you are not interested in real dialog with citizens. What a sad day. Can't believe this is real.
Also, please elaborate on this:
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@EDPS Can you publish the number of followers the individual accounts had/have?
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@EDPS
This is a huge step backwards and extremely short-sighted by whoever is responsible for this decision.
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@EDPS :awesome:
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@edps Sad 😢 ! How does this fit with the following recent post from @EU_Commission ?
https://social.network.europa.eu/@EU_Commission/112302373606720402
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@bartknubben looks like an unilateral decision by @edps.@EU_Commission intends to stay:
https://social.network.europa.eu/@EU_Commission/112337768009498103
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@EDPS It has been a huge success, so you're stopping? Is that EU logic?
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@steven @EDPS
"El proyecto ha sido un éxito pero lo cerramos".
Una frase sonora pero sin sentido.
Una decisión errónea que aumenta el control de la UE por gobiernos y corporaciones empresariales extranjeras.
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@EDPS
Thank you EDPS for the work you've done, I'm so sorry that people higher up in charge of funding have let you down like this.
You have been doing the right thing, they are being incredibly shortsighted by throwing away this work.
At the very least, couldn't they just put an RSS bot feed onto the existing accounts instead of throwing away all those follows? Most people follow government accounts for announcements and info, and an official bot is better than nothing.
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@EDPS
Also a shoutout to @EC_OSPO for their excellent work! We hope you come back here again in the future.
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C'est décevant :/
@EDPS
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@ThierryJoffredo "despite our efforts to find a new home for EU Voice and EU Video in other EUIs, we have been unable to secure new ownership to maintain the servers and sustain operations at the high standards that EUIs and our users deserve"
🤷♂️
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@EDPS It's really depressing that an institution as powerful as the #EU can't find an agency to keep running these successful projects. :/
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@EDPS disappointing, this will only hinder the EU's data sovereignty objectives, but thanks to those who worked on this pilot for the past two years
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@EDPS Dear EDPS and other responsible for this decision,
I will gladly manage Mastodon servers for you, moderate them and pay out of my own pocket for it. How many accounts do you have? 50 or so? No problem.
Please contact me and continue your presence on #fediverse.
Dissapearing from fediverse will send a strong negative signal, dismissing EU's digital soverignty.
@EU_Commission
@DigitalEU
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Hi @po3mah! Thank you for the offer, and for being an active part of our community on the fediverse. Know that we intend to keep our account running, and are actively working on a solution.
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@EU_Commission@social.network.europa.eu @po3mah@mastodon.social The solution is simple, just ask fediverse admins they know how to fix things. And just imagine, they are located in EU countries. :ablobcatwave:
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@EU_Commission @po3mah
Thank you for responding and for 2-way communication!
Could you please clarify your (and other EU institutions) plans, because @EDPS is sending mixed and cryptic messages like 'experiment completed, service will be closed, only those who wish will remain'.
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@EDPS This is very disappointing and concerning. Why are you calling it a success AND shutting down? How does this go together with the EUs goal toward being more independent from closed source platforms. This makes no sense.
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@EDPS ok, no the @EU_Commission's toot on their commitment to remain in the #fediverse makes sense.
A pity that you can't keep the domain and server running and hand it over to some other #EU agency which is able to keep the lights on. I do hope those EU agencies will be able to move to another European server soon.
https://social.network.europa.eu/@EU_Commission/112338626558805977
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@EDPS Would you mind publishing the slides, too, of Wojciech Wiewiórowski's talk "Fediverse for Public Administration. Why we try and why we fail?" at the Freedom Not Fear Conference 2023?
It is a pity that some metrics get mentioned verbally, but one cannot look up what exactly they are, and how they look like.
https://tube.network.europa.eu/w/akYVneAVtrMDcmveC9UKjF
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@EDPS It seems a bit off. On the one hand, it is saying that the pilot was a success; it was well used and it achieved its goal. But then it goes on to say that it will not continue.
Like "everything went great, and so we're shutting it down". I'd like to hear more about the reasons for that.
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@EDPS
Closing this down now does more harm than had this pilot never been started, as it suggests a Meta or X alternative is easier.
Setting up and maintaining a fediverse server is done by amateurs across the globe in their free time using Ko-fi pocket money. That's not easy, but the fediverse thrives regardless.
Keeping this up with the resources at the EU's disposal should be zero effort. "Not able to secure resources" can only be interpreted as a lack of trying
[#]EDPS #EUVoice #EUVideo
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Hello @EDPS please move your feed to @eupolicy.social and thus keep going on Mastodon. We are a small group of volunteers, including one from the EDPS, running this server. It costs you nothing and it is run to highest data protection and security standards.
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@EDPS if it is a success why stopping it ? It makes no sense
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From what I understand, everybody within the @EU_Commission was very happy and supportive of the #EUVoice experiment by @EDPS. Everybody within @EC_NGI is absolutely delighted with the work done by @NGIZero, yet, when EDPS asked what branch of the European Union would take charge of the #ActivityPub presence of the Union, everybody turned they heads away.
Yet, the #EU keeps spending tons of public money on X or Meta. This is #shameful.
Thank you EDPS.
Shame on you @vonderleyen
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@EU_Commission @EDPS @EC_NGI @NGIZero @vonderleyen
Now, from May 18, 2024, we, European citizens, are left with no public access to European institutions, since all their communications will go through US-based private companies that the #EU fined repeatedly for breaking the European Law.
What kind of political power is that? Submitting #GDPR protected citizens to the global surveillance of NSA through USA's "National Security Exception to GDPR"?
[#]DigitalSovereignty LOL
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@EU_Commission @EDPS @EC_NGI @NGIZero @vonderleyen
On the one hand you're giving us, European citizens and free software developers, the task to build our own sovereign public digital infrastructure, and at the same time, on the other hand, you're spitting in our faces.
This is disgusting. You do not deserve us. We have to make it happen in spite of your ignorance and stupidity, this is what it is.
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@EDPS As an EU citizen, it is incomprehensible to me why people are not able to continue to bear this relatively small amount of effort to operate the servers. On the contrary, the EU's presence on the intolerable platform X should be ended and a strong, free and open alternative should be used.
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