@thisismissem @ilumium i would say the truth is, if not a third thing, halfway between those two options. Industrie 4.0 is a thing I would class as actual (if by it you mean data-rich and automation-friendly manufacturing and industrial data spaces), so cringeworthy branding and framing aside, i think there ARE real-world applications of AR/VR and HCI that would build on these in ways that help EU manufacturing more than Chinese or New World manufacturing, but it's pretty niche...
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