You nailed it @AuthorJMac ! 🖖
Edit : Original (and complete) post on March 29, 2024
« You know what the biggest problem with pushing all-things-AI is? Wrong direction.
I want AI to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for AI to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes. »
Cf. https://indiepocalypse.social/@AuthorJMac/112178826967890119
[#]AI #IA #LLM
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@danslerush @AuthorJMac Thank you, I was searching the source of this quote !
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@CedricLevasseur @danslerush @AuthorJMac
Maybe this version has more punch
Joanna Maciejewska says...
⭕EDITED I want #AI to do my laundry and dishes so I can do my art and my writing, not for AI to do art and writing and be lucky to get laundry and dishwasher jobs at AI wages.
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@CedricLevasseur @danslerush @AuthorJMac I have one useful application for AI that is also my main use case:
I don't get much of AI creating anything "new" for me because I do actually new stuff. It costs me time because even if AI generates me something I would need to go it through and I end up dissapointing result that I need to rewrite myself.
I've also empirically tested these theories because I don't believe in belief systems.
E.g. a platform bug makes it propose solutions that don't work because there's too many parameters that are not the source code per se like the environment it runs, and how people might want it to fly. If I give more feedback to the AI, it always ends up eventually proposing the same dysfunctional solution I started with.
But my first example: it s actually useful. I also know a startup that did a system for customer service, which does not replace it but instead quickly provides context information for the call service person, which makes the work less stressful and customers get highest possible result. Nobody likes to talk AI on phone.
Whenever there is a new tech it will take all our jobs but eventually it settles and integrates. E.g. if AI really did that it would start feeding back itself with its own data because everything would be generated by AI. Even some studies have started to shown evidence that this can cause a feedback alzheimer kind of condition for the LLM.
I did my homework on this. Thus, not worried.
:-)
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@CedricLevasseur @AuthorJMac @danslerush E.g. software engineering: at most 10% is about the source code. Rest is human interaction and expectations, even in something as low-level as drivers and stuff like that.
I've always said that I would be as effective in statistics with Windows Notepad doing Linux drivers as I am on Linux system with vim even tho that will decrease my code productivity by factors. You pick the tools you like, the productivity and creativity are not affected. I personally love slow.
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@jarkko @danslerush @AuthorJMac
Then you'd better progressing in human interaction.
Because you use-case of "one useful" application in IA is totally irrelevant.
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@CedricLevasseur @danslerush @AuthorJMac Dude, you should too.
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@CedricLevasseur @AuthorJMac @danslerush i use ai so rarely even in the use case i described that i even dont know what IA is. No interest on topic to ”do the research” either. I thought it was a typo
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@jarkko It is a typo. It's because I'm French and in French IA means AI.
You understand that If i congratulate someone for an argument against AI, I'm not happy that somebody come and says : Hey for me it's working.
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@CedricLevasseur @danslerush If it's any help, it's been posted across some of my socials (here on Mastodon but also X, BlueSky, and Threads) on March 29, 2024. It went viral back then, and then the magazine took half of it and reprinted it of which I learned from this image going viral. :) Apparently, it's still making its rounds.
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@AuthorJMac Oh thank you for the context and the details ! So yes, let's say it touches on a common sense that we are very many to share when we are willingly or forcefully subjected to the marketing lobotomy of "AI" 😅 @CedricLevasseur
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@danslerush @CedricLevasseur Love the "marketing lobotomy of AI" expression.
I know that AI has some uses, probably in science and data analysis.
But I see no reason why it should be shoved down my throat everywhere I turn. I always say I'm waiting for cereal producers to implement AI in their products. 😉
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@AuthorJMac @danslerush
I wanted to quote you in a little poster, I could hold up in future protests. I needed the exact quote, so that I could translate in French. I'm happy to have found this post in my timeline.
Thank you for this beautiful argument.
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@CedricLevasseur @danslerush Awww, thank you.
I suppose I should keep the links to the originals across the platforms handy, because no one in their right mind will scroll almost a year back through my profile (especially that the magazine doesn't provide the date or any reference).
I'm surprised you've found me, and here (love Mastodon, but it's delightfully niche) of all places :)
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@AuthorJMac I found it > https://indiepocalypse.social/@AuthorJMac/112178826967890119 (and I edit my post to put the link on) @CedricLevasseur
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@danslerush @CedricLevasseur Thanks for making the effort!
(My notifications are getting busy, so I didn't have time myself.)
I'm definitely saving the link now, so that I can have it handy as well.
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@AuthorJMac You're welcome, and sorry about this new "notifications session" 😳 @CedricLevasseur
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@danslerush @CedricLevasseur No worries. I truly appreciate the tagging, especially that it takes an effort to look for the author.
Not everyone bothers.
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@danslerush My thought exactly !
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@danslerush @AuthorJMac
Spot on!
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https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/sad-2
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@fazalmajid @danslerush Yup.
But uncreative people apparently thought it was necessary...
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come from Gemini:
"While AI is making rapid progress in many areas, there are still significant challenges to overcome. Tasks that seem simple to humans, like laundry and dishes, can be surprisingly difficult for AI due to the complexities of physical manipulation and unstructured environments. Addressing the real problems of generalization, bias, explainability, creativity, and ethics will be crucial for the future of AI and AIGC."
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@longLiveCarryOn @danslerush I appreciate you taking time to respond, but I care little about what complex predictive text machine has to say.
I'm also tired of people not taking time to understand what I was really saying. Taking text literally is the lowest level of reading comprehension...
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@danslerush @AuthorJMac
Heres your AI washing machine
https://www.samsung.com/in/washers-and-dryers/washing-machines/ww5000d-front-loading-smartthings-ai-energy-mode-a-10-percent-extra-energy-efficiency-ai-ecobubble-12kg-navy-ww12dg5b24astl/
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@vsharma2430 @danslerush There's a difference between "AI washing machine" (something that we actively avoided the last time husband and I shopped for a washing machine) and "AI doing laundry".
If you don't know the difference, I recommend doing more chores around the house. 😉
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@danslerush @AuthorJMac Technology needs to serve the needs of people, not the other way around.
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@danslerush @AuthorJMac
Pretty high ask - do the dishes.
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@OptimisticMoron @danslerush I'll be happy to do the dishes myself if the AI fucks off creative endeavors. ;)
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@danslerush @AuthorJMac I use this quote all the time when I'm facilitating tech workshops!
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@danslerush @AuthorJMac Alternative viewpoint: all of those things are part of the human experience and I don't want AI doing any of it. I'm happy to make art and fold laundry. Some of my best ideas happen when I'm engaged in repetitive tasks.
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@sqrl_23 @danslerush It's not as alternative. The magazine took only half of the quote, kind of twisting it along the way.
In general, I don't need AI in my life at all, but if it is to be there, I'd rather have it do things that aren't arts.
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@AuthorJMac @danslerush Well that's fair.
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@danslerush yeah they really should invent machines that wash clothes or dishes, I’m sure people would buy those
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@lain @danslerush your welcome https://www.samsung.com/in/support/home-appliances/what-is-ai-technology-in-samsung-washing-machine/
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@lain @danslerush what matters are machines that can automatically put dirty clothes into the washing machine, turn it on, take them into the dryer, and then put dried clothes into their place. etc.
same goes for dishwasher, it still takes me a lot of energy to put used dishes into it.
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@danslerush @AuthorJMac and i don't want "ai" to do shit
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@ngn @danslerush That would definitely be ideal.
Yesterday, I had another real life example how "useful" "AI" is, and I've had enough for a lifetime. Or twenty.
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@danslerush @AuthorJMac This is EXACTLY what I've been saying. How fucking backwards has the AI industry got it right now...
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@danslerush @AuthorJMac A.I. will never do my writing for me.
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@danslerush @AuthorJMac When my AI enhanced Roomba can move the furniture, open doors, vacuum under the heat registers, and empty itself, then I will believe it worthy for consideration. Until then, it’s just a dumb robot vacuum that can’t even push aside a dining chair to suck up the crumbs from under the table.
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@danslerush @AuthorJMac In fact, this drawing predates it, since it was made the 18 of Janury 2023 or sooner, according to my metadatas.
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