DEI programs solve a systemic problem, and there is overwhelming evidence the problem is systemic.
For white people, this presents 2 main problems:
Both of these make white people angry. (1/3)
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Saying the system is racist feels like a personal attack on folks who don’t consider themselves racist.
They convince themselves the candidates sourced through DEI programs are less qualified and hired only because they are “diverse.”
So they differentiate the old system as “merit-based,” even though it’s definitely not, because when they’re hired under it, it must be due to their own merit/worth that they were hired and not because the system favored hiring white men. (2/3)
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The fact is, DEI programs turn the system into a more merit-based one and open up a wider pool of talent than traditional systems allow for.
If you want to hire the best people for the job, why would you use a system that doesn’t source the best candidates? (3/3)
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@ramsey
Yep. Or more profanely...
https://mastodon.social/@muhkayoh/113923852189716414
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@ramsey
I agree.
It feels like what is being pushed and reinforced now is that minorities, women, and disabled folks should be assumed to be less qualified and less capable.
I am embarrassed to be part of a society going in this direction.
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@ramsey Because they don't want the best candidates. They want the most loyal, compliant ones that don't challenge the hierarchy, or the system that generates the profit.
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@sindarina @ramsey or they're looking for a 'culture fit', where 'culture fit' is defined as 'looks like me, talks like me, thinks like me'.
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@ghorwood @ramsey How is that any different from what I just said? 😜
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@ramsey
It's even more challenging than this.
Discrimination over time reduces employability, or experience can be highly correlated with opportunity, not ability.
So even if you judge everyone only on their experiences, you are still not doing the E equity, in #DEI
Here are some examples 1/n
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@ramsey No more tick boxes…
I have lost count of the number of times I have had BME staff describe to me how they have watched White colleagues – whom they had welcomed, inducted, supported and helped to train – get promoted over them again and again. 2/n
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@ramsey I have lost count of the number of time I’ve been told how “stretch opportunities” (such as acting up, secondments, and involvement in significant projects) which are the key to career progression have been filled by a tap on the shoulder followed by promotion. #SideBySide
https://mdxminds.com/2021/09/16/no-more-tick-boxes/
Found via nottheonlyone.org as one of 10,300+ #DEI #Diversity, #Equity and #Inclusion items. 3/n
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We are not all playing the same game of snakes and ladders. Some have more ladders and others have more snakes. 4/n
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and lack of opportunities over time reduces employability. 5/n
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And the antidote to discrimination is to give people from marginalised groups more opportunities to make up for the ones they have lost. 5/n
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@ramsey
I'll be giving this talk at #FluConf - "Improving Diversity and Inclusion in the Open Source Community" that explains it in more detail.
https://fluconf.online/sessions/improving-diversity-and-inclusion-in-the-open-source-community/
[#]DEI #DiversityEquityInclusion #EDI #EquityDiversityInclusion
6/n
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@ramsey the link to the more accessible presentation is here https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQJh_sFXRmzN_Z9QBSomgwdlaFwzuffxtCDtRnejoJyUFbJJOEbEKs2W-xcM4hnH0SOhegYtJ97LrqC/pub
and the link to the less accessible presentation is here https://figshare.com/articles/presentation/Improving_Diversity_and_Inclusion_in_the_Open_Source_Community/28281392
7/7
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@ramsey @blogdiva During the last Tory government, for similar racist reasons they removed the Unconscious Bias training every Civil Servant had to undergo. What people defending the training failed to emphasise was that it was in place to not only hire people from minority backgrounds but also more white people from underprivileged backgrounds. Why? (1/3)
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Because it trained you to stop assuming that an Oxbridge degree automatically made you better than someone with no degree at all. It's whole purpose was to expand recruitment away from the overprivileged stale, pale males to underprivileged, bright people no matter who they were - including all those white, working class men who the racists removing the training claimed to be representing. (2/3)
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It was infuriating to see them get away with this blatant attack on the working classes by dressing it up as through they were saving them. (3/3)
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@ramsey
It’s increasingly clear that axing #DEI policies doesn’t lead to merit-based hiring or promotion.
Quite the opposite—it leads to hiring & promoting the laziest, most clueless, least experienced white male fatheads over vastly better qualified women, POC, et al, purely because they’re white and male.
[#]Trump being elected is an obvious example of this.
[#]USPol
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@ramsey The silent 3rd piece of this logic, the one most aren't even aware of, the one I long ago unpacked within myself and was shocked to find, is the underlying assumption that people of color aren't as capable as white people.
And there's the core to racism — not noticing race, not choosing people based on race, not all the myths about what racism is... but the hidden implicit bias, a quiet, inherited sense of superiority.
[#]decolonization #AbuseCulture
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@corbden @ramsey I have watched this with horror and challenged it to no success with people around me who do not even realize they are filled to the brim with such vileness. And it sounds so innocent coming from their mouths. They think they are complementing the other kid, the different person, the accomplished athlete. When what they are really saying is, "Wow, I didn't recognize that we were on the same planet, and that you actually belonged here, can you really do all that or did you have help, should I look around for evidence of fraud, or find some other way to point out that I was here first looking down on you?"
It makes me so mad to know I share genes with them.....Ahhhgh.
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@FirstFish @ramsey Making rebuttal statements allows them to wiggle away from themselves.
I've been experimenting with asking questions or a series of questions that cause them to confront the bias.
In this case something like:
Why do you think any given Black person would not be as qualified for this job as any given white person? Is there something inherent about Black people that makes them less capable of doing the work?
If they're genuinely wanting to be a good person deep down, this may cause them to reflect. You can see it on their face. If it remains, a discussion might open up, aided by more questions, like If Black peoples aren't as successful in society, and at birth they're inherently just as capable, then what factors do you think might lead to their overall failures at pursuing the American Dream? And now you're open to talking about systematic bias, poverty, healthcare, police brutality, etc. and about their solutions.
Or the realization may only flash briefly before renewed defensiveness, but they'll probably think on it later, and your work is done for now.
If they indeed actually believe in these superiorities, they may choose this time to reveal that. And then you know they're a lost cause and can stop wasting your time.
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@corbden @ramsey Oh, yes. There are times that I, too, can get very good at directing the conversation through multiple levels of labyrinthine questions following their answers. But only when my own emotions or the life of my children are not on the line in the discussion. I tend to lose it a bit and become less than rational and logical when they express opinions that threaten my cubs.
Still, it doesn't take very many layers for them to see that their inherent bias is truly despicable and to lash out with name calling and labeling and a need to leave such an "attack".
The definition of a "good person" is becoming a very difficult thing to nail down. Good deeds and kind-hearted motives, philanthropy and charity, not doing public harm and refraining from verbal engagement are not evidence of "goodness" anymore. As you have pointed out, #3 is invisible and insidious.
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@FirstFish Yeah I've been in enough of these conversations that it's often triggering and very intense, so I tend to avoid them now more often than I'd like. It's typically not productive anymore, except with people I live with or have to interact with often. That might become a life or death thing for me at some point, that we at least have some basis of mutual understanding.
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@ramsey
It is amazing that "excluding more than half the population from consideration" was ever considered the way to hire "the best" person, but the triumph of supremacist systems is redefining who gets to be "a person".
It's when those pesky women and Black and brown men somehow got themselves reassigned as "people" that the trouble really started and dudes in power had to start calling it something like "merit" instead of "white dudes only need apply".
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It's just not making opportunity equal for groups that benefit from DEI. Organizations immeasurably benefit from being more diverse and inclusive.
And countries. Canada's superpower is it's diversity and inclusion.
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@ramsey White Christian nationalism demands that their hierarchy is the dominate cultural. Arguments about the best candidates are found in a larger pool is not part of that culture that the christofascists want to impose on us.
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