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Written by 404 Media on 2025-01-23 at 15:05

A web developer has created and released an infinitely generating "tar pit" designed to trap AI training bots in an endless maze: "Just me unleashing shear unadulterated rage at how things are going"

https://www.404media.co/developer-creates-infinite-maze-to-trap-ai-crawlers-in/

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Written by (roll m3tti) on 2025-01-23 at 15:12

@404mediaco this is genious :O

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Written by Alan Miller :verified_paw: Well THAT didn't go as hoped on 2025-01-23 at 15:17

@404mediaco or for a similar but different approach, iocaine.

"This is a tarpit, modeled after Nepenthes, intended to catch unwelcome web crawlers, but with a slightly different, more aggressive intended usage scenario. The core idea is to configure a reverse proxy to serve content generated by iocaine to AI crawlers, but normal content to every other visitor. This differs from Nepenthes, where the idea is to link to it, and trap crawlers that way. Not with iocaine, where the trap is laid by the reverse proxy."

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Written by Tim Trautmann on 2025-01-23 at 15:41

@404mediaco This should deployed far and wide. It would be cool if Cloudflare could re-direct known bots right into these dedicated traps.

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Written by Jesse on 2025-01-23 at 15:50

@404mediaco how can this work? Even in my computer science classes 15 years ago this was already mentioned and explained how to counter. Usually by randomly jumping back iirc

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Written by khm on 2025-01-23 at 16:26

malicious scrapers put a hilariously low amount of effort into their tools, because quality costs money and if they spend any their margins take a hit

CC: @404mediaco@mastodon.social

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Written by Michael Gemar on 2025-01-23 at 16:10

@404mediaco It's sad that the only way one can tackle wasteful AI is to make it even more wasteful, and make one's own computing wasteful in the process.

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Written by Greengordon on 2025-01-23 at 16:13

@404mediaco

People like this give me hope.

"Aaron B said “It's also sort of an art work, just me unleashing shear unadulterated rage at how things are going. I was just sick and tired of how the internet is evolving into a money extraction panopticon, how the world as a whole is slipping into fascism and oligarchs are calling all the shots - and it's gotten bad enough we can't boycott or vote our way out, we have to start causing real pain to those above for any change to occur.”

[#]resist

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Written by Cornelius K. on 2025-01-23 at 17:59

@404mediaco

If they are training with minimal quality assurance this should work... But I always thought there had to be some classification / pre-training work that had to be done on LLM fodder... Or am I behind on updates?

Still, iocaine and this both sound interesting. Now just add images with nightshade..

So we have these tools for image and text. What about video and audio?

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Written by F4GRX Sébastien on 2025-01-23 at 18:53

@kln @404mediaco nightshade does not work. https://huggingface.co/blog/parsee-mizuhashi/glaze-and-anti-ai-methods

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Written by F4GRX Sébastien on 2025-01-23 at 18:51

@404mediaco will be filtered and circumvented by ai trainers in 3... 2... 1...

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Written by LindaMarie on 2025-01-23 at 19:42

@404mediaco

How the web actually makes it into my hands, lights up and interacts is a total mystery to me. So though I didn’t comment at the time, I saw Aaron’s posts when he was working on this and his pure delight at being “in the zone.” Multifaceted persons are often creative. The perfect name nepenthes wouldn’t have occurred to him if he hadn’t known plants deeply and spent time in nature, which is a better place to incubate ideas than at a desk. Hope this makes him lots of 💵💵💵!!!

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Written by Nick 🇨🇦 V13.9XXA Candidate on 2025-01-23 at 19:52

@404mediaco

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Written by Jim Nelson on 2025-01-23 at 22:39

@404mediaco Reminds me of the "topological anomaly" Picard & co. planned to use to defeat the Borg.

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Topological_anomaly

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Written by Nate on 2025-01-24 at 02:44

@404mediaco there's got to be a way to combine this with a good old fashioned Rickroll...

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