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Written by Cutie-PHY on 2025-01-10 at 23:15

Who needs a buck controller anyway? :blobcatderpy:

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Written by Richard "mtfnpy" Harman on 2025-01-10 at 23:21

@sad_electronics me: "Wait, where's the feedback", then notices the V_12 net symbol on opposite sides!

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Written by tnt on 2025-01-16 at 09:43

@xabean @sad_electronics Ahaha, I had the exact same thought and then also noticed the V_12 on the left :)

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Written by Lukas on 2025-01-10 at 23:22

@sad_electronics 🤔 How's this circuit supposed to oscillate? Using the residual ripple on the output?

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Written by Chip on 2025-01-10 at 23:26

@karotte @sad_electronics I was trying to figure that out, too. I think it’s more or less a threshold switch. When the output is above the target it turns off the pass transistor, and when it’s below, it turns it on. So yeah, there will have to be some ripple to satisfy the hysteresis on the Schmitt inverter. And the oscillating frequency depends entirely on the propagation delay (edit: and the hysteresis range and the output caps).

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Written by Lukas on 2025-01-10 at 23:38

@bytex64 @sad_electronics The frequency of oscillation probably also depends on the hysteresis and the output capacitance… and the phase of the moon I guess?

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Written by Chip on 2025-01-10 at 23:39

@karotte @sad_electronics Yeah, I realized just now that there's more in that loop. :)

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Written by ftg on 2025-01-10 at 23:26

@sad_electronics

How does it look in a simulator?

Will be interesting to see how well it works with that free running loop.

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Written by Bastelwombat on 2025-01-10 at 23:27

@sad_electronics For learning or for production?

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Written by poleguy on 2025-01-10 at 23:31

@sad_electronics Did you simulate this, or just build it? (Or neither?!)

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Written by Chip on 2025-01-10 at 23:50

@sad_electronics I think there's an error - the PNP on the bottom of the totem pole driver should be like a BC856, right?

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Written by F4GRX Sébastien on 2025-01-16 at 00:35

@sad_electronics these are IMPORTANT designs. I find it critical that we are able to make these circuits without relying on nothing but transistors and passives we already have in our drawers. I should do a collection of these circuits. including a lithium ion charger and bms. @RueNahcMohr

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Written by AMS on 2025-01-16 at 02:37

@f4grx @sad_electronics @RueNahcMohr Are TL431 allowed? They're basically everywhere.

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Written by Rue Mohr on 2025-01-16 at 04:15

@AMS @f4grx @sad_electronics

They have a really mushy switching curve and I'd like to see that.

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Written by F4GRX Sébastien on 2025-01-16 at 06:25

@AMS @sad_electronics @RueNahcMohr yup! Absolutely!

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Written by Niels Moseley on 2025-01-16 at 00:37

@sad_electronics BUK controller.

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Written by Manawyrm | Sarah -> FOSDEM on 2025-01-16 at 09:44

@sad_electronics aaaaahahhh :D

this looks like the BS i built back in school with one of those electronics experimenter kits.

I'm very happy we have Silergy, MPS, etc. today :D

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Written by Wilfried Klaebe on 2025-01-16 at 10:37

@manawyrm What do you think about https://www.tracopower.com/model/tsr-1-2450?

@sad_electronics

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Written by tnt on 2025-01-16 at 09:45

@sad_electronics Any results out of it ? Sim / Real ?

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