And just like that the discourse on the Fediverse has shifted to people on here saying folks who still maintain Facebook accounts have less worth as people and those toots are getting boosted. Some of you all are just too much.
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@Geojoek It's so easy to get angry and say things like this. Mastodon is absolutely not immune to this, and in fact might be worse in some ways... I try hard to avoid (and sometimes block) the shrieking, angry people that demand that I do whatever it is that they are fixed on today. They're allowed their opinions just as I am allowed to say "no."
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@croyle @Geojoek Nobody on Hellschreiber is saying these kinds of things. It's the kindest social network.
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@ve3qbz @croyle
This is very true. I hope to see you in hell sometime soon.
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@Geojoek
@ve3qbz @croyle
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@W1CDN @Geojoek @croyle It even looks like hellschreiber (cobbles are just road pixels)
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@ve3qbz @W1CDN @Geojoek @croyle
That's what the roads here look like...
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@on5zo @W1CDN @Geojoek @croyle It's gorgeous :) I like going slow more than going fast in any mode of transportation, I'd be fine if all our roads were like that.
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@ve3qbz @W1CDN @Geojoek @croyle
No. No you wouldn't.
You must also know that every square meter misses a stone in a random position. Always a gamble.
Or two stones in the gap for three - which will bounce where?
The Paris-Roubaix stretch gets 'fixed' the week before the race. Not around here.
Anyway cycling is big here and plenty of that stuff to break necks on!
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@croyle
I'm at the point where folks who somehow make it past my content filters (so I don't see such things) get no quarter from me. 😂
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@Geojoek It's good for your sanity. I just blocked a half dozen people that followed me last night on just the suspicion that they could be fake, spammers, or just looking to promote themselves. pushes NUKE button
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@croyle
oh yeah, I had to turn follow requests on because a month or two ago I started getting some suspicious follows.
I’m a big fan of unfollowing folks as well and being very rigid about keeping this place a sanctuary for me. 😆
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@croyle @Geojoek I'm going to have to prune down a few follows soon because I'm getting a flood of political stuff that I just don't want to be inundated with. Sooooooooooo many re-toots.
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@douglasvb @Geojoek I favor accounts that post original thoughts and not just 99% re-toots. I get plenty of political re-toots from people I do follow so there's no reason to follow someone that only re-shares others' thoughts.
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@croyle @Geojoek several accounts seem to have turned into re-toot accounts lately that I follow. Sigh
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@croyle @douglasvb @Geojoek don't forget you can hide boots! It's nice for those accounts that boost political content.
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@bhhaskin @douglasvb @Geojoek Good reminder. There are some accounts that do post original content that I like but also carpet-bomb my feed or post objectionable (to me) re-toots and such. In those very few cases I do hide re-toots from them,.
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Yes. I'm following a fellow mastoham's policy of disabing boosts immediately upon following most people but some accounts have transitioned to mostly those and I had to go back and retroactively disable it. Numerous accounts transitioned from posting mostly ham stuff to FB-style political venting, which is totally fine but most of it's not hashtagged or CW'd and/or uses deliberate misspellings or other obfuscation, so those get unfollowed, sadly.
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Note: this is also an issue on the professional-ish work-related GIS instance I'm on. Which is why Mastodon needs bulk filter export / import in the GUI.
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@Geojoek @bhhaskin @douglasvb Hope they roll out features like that. Happily, they're still WAY ahead of Bluesky, where you can't even set your followers to need your approval, and they desperately need that because spammers are a much bigger issue there.
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@Geojoek @croyle @bhhaskin @douglasvb carpet bomber boosters are annoying (and changing your user name to promote a political message really irritates me), I totally agree.
I do try and tolerate the topic-du-jour hue and cry that goes up from time to time though, because it teaches me about what is important to people on the fediverse that I otherwise have no venn diagram overlap with in many cases. At the very least it helps flesh out larger narratives I might not otherwise hear.
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@Geojoek @croyle @bhhaskin @douglasvb And full disclosure, I deleted Facebook recently, and I think their moderation changes are reprehensible. But denigrating people for continuing to use Facebook, which was Geo's original point, is also terrifically inappropriate; they have their reasons, or are working through it. C'est pas tes oignons
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@ve3qbz
I think I’m in a situation that most people are in: we would love to remove most social media from our lives— but it’s shifted culture wide communication practices so deeply that for many (most?) people doing so is a decision to become very isolated from in person community because social media is one of the last remaining 3rd spaces. I’ve also known dozens of people to make a show of leaving Facebook over the years and they don’t end up keeping in touch.
@croyle @bhhaskin @douglasvb
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@ve3qbz @croyle @bhhaskin @douglasvb
That being said most people I know with accounts on Facebook have either left it or have been only lurking starting years ago, but especially since lockdown ended
My primary reason for being on it was being homebound for many years with EBV/CFS, and I found it was the easiest way to get people in my life to acknowledge that I still existed once I became sick.
There’s also the tie-in with the epidemic of loneliness among middle-age and older folks.
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@Geojoek @ve3qbz @croyle @bhhaskin other reasons for retaining FB are the marketplace, the local crime and emergency groups, and various specialty hobby groups that exist nowhere else.
It's a bit frustrating.
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@ve3qbz @croyle @bhhaskin @douglasvb
… which is why I really treasure the ham radio Fediverse.
And I wish something like it existed again amongst communities of people I’ve known for 25 years. I really miss the time in my life when people sent out email invitations and both communicated and socialized in groups and went to 3rd spaces. I don’t know if it’s an age thing or if culture dramatically shifted since lockdown ended, but I suspect it’s both. Everything is one on one now if I’m lucky.
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@Geojoek @croyle @bhhaskin @douglasvb "which is why I really treasure the ham radio Fediverse. " - emphatic yes. I really enjoy the people I have met here.
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@Geojoek @ve3qbz @croyle @bhhaskin @douglasvb I love email because of how versatile it is. It is a true jack-of-all-trades. I recall being upset in 2012 about Facebook being used as a replacement for email for comms in people's minds.
I actually think that things have been getting a little better. Back then, FB was still the "cool place", now it feels like lots of people hate it. They only tolerate it because of FOMO.
(I nuked my FB account in 2019 after 5+ years of not using it.)
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@Geojoek @ve3qbz @croyle @bhhaskin @douglasvb Sadly, I have no suggestion how to stay in touch with people that "live" only on FB - beyond ask them about scheduling periodic email/whatever :(
During the Twitter exodus, I lost contact with some people that didn't move to Mastodon or moved back after a short while. But I also found this crazy bunch :)
IOW, giving up on a platform/group/whatever means that you will lose some contacts but you'll find new ones that are just as good elsewhere.
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@Geojoek @ve3qbz @croyle @bhhaskin @douglasvb Note that I still run an IRC client 24/7 to keep in touch with people I've chatted with for 20+ years. IRC definitely isn't what it used to be (shakes hand at discord), but I still like it and that's what matters.
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@ve3qbz @Geojoek @bhhaskin @douglasvb Changing user names doesn't bug me really... But agreed about tolerating the occasional and random outcries of outrage/pain from the wider community reacting to something.
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@croyle @Geojoek @bhhaskin @douglasvb It's like some kind of introspective or reverse bystander effect for me sometimes - if a bunch of people are really worked up about something, and I'm not, it's an opportunity to critically examine why I'm not worked up about it.
It's also a bit the general vibe and tone and tenor of the fediverse, imo. I feel like I gain more than it subtracts in general, even when it can become a bit much.
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@croyle @Geojoek @bhhaskin @douglasvb I came for packet radio, Hellschreiber, birbs, and ketchup chips, tbh, but I dig the (respectful and rational) radical social justice commentary too.
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