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Written by Vee on 2024-12-10 at 21:53

For people outside the US, this is a classic example and by no means a rarity.

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Written by Michel Lind :fedora: :debian: on 2024-12-10 at 21:55

@VeroniqueB99 this is why we plan to move to Canada before retirement

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Written by Vee on 2024-12-10 at 22:04

@michelin Anyone who can should...

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Written by Kid Mania on 2024-12-11 at 02:14

@VeroniqueB99 @michelin

Careful with that. We have our own mini-me version of Trump in the form of Pierre Poilievre, a 'conservative' who is almost certain be elected with a majority because "woke".

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Written by Vee on 2024-12-11 at 18:30

@clintruin @michelin Facking hell....🤬

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Written by Wettach (WGW) on 2024-12-11 at 19:30

@clintruin @VeroniqueB99 @michelin But, as far as I understand it from a EU perspective, in #Canada you still will have checks&balances, even if he gets elected.

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Written by Kid Mania on 2024-12-11 at 21:25

@wettach @VeroniqueB99 @michelin

Such as they are...our House of Commons is modeled after the British System for all intents and purposes.

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Written by sysfrank 🇺🇸 on 2024-12-11 at 23:39

@clintruin @VeroniqueB99 @michelin

There goes my plan B. 🤣

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Written by Leonid on 2025-01-02 at 13:49

@clintruin @VeroniqueB99 @michelin oh noo… Canada was my last hope. Europe will be governed completely by fascist in only few years.

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Written by Kid Mania on 2025-01-02 at 13:53

@leonid @VeroniqueB99 @michelin

☠️ 🇨🇦 ☠️ Sorry to disappoint. But yeah...they got us too. 😔

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/m-le-mag/article/2024/11/22/pierre-poilievre-canada-s-trump-inspired-conservative-leader_6733728_117.html

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Written by Kid Mania on 2025-01-02 at 13:59

@leonid @VeroniqueB99 @michelin

What should be terrifying to Canadians is that PoiLIEvre will be in power alongside Trump, who has recently called us the 51st state. With roughly 20 percent of the country being traitorous assholes who want to join the States, I fear--deeply--for Canadian sovereignty.

And for Canadians:

WHEN we are taken over by the US it will be because the Canadian people ask for it, and they'll ask for it because they will be choreographed to ask for it.

But they will.

☠️

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Written by Leonid on 2025-01-02 at 15:12

@clintruin @VeroniqueB99 @michelin fascism seems to be a pandemic 😔

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Written by Vee on 2025-01-02 at 23:07

@leonid @clintruin @michelin there are a few countries still resisting, New Zeland, France among others.... but as a whole the entire world is shifting right....

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Written by Michel Lind :fedora: :debian: on 2025-01-02 at 17:33

@clintruin @leonid @VeroniqueB99 the percentage of Canadians who want to join the US haven't really increased since the 60s though, so hopefully it can't really go up much

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Written by Irenes (many) on 2024-12-11 at 06:19

@VeroniqueB99 @michelin at the risk of stating the obvious, most countries, including Canada, aren't thrilled about retirement-age immigrants, because policymakers prefer to have people who will contribute to the economy. if you intend to immigrate, do it sooner rather than later.

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Written by Goggles on 2024-12-11 at 00:31

@michelin @VeroniqueB99

A plan for avoiding a healthcare bankruptcy that depends on immigrating to Canada?

Realistically, here are your options: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada.html

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Written by Andres Salomon on 2024-12-11 at 05:15

@michelin @VeroniqueB99 I really wish that were in the cards for us. Vancouver and Montreal are wonderful.

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Written by Tod Maffin 🇨🇦 on 2024-12-11 at 06:05

@michelin @VeroniqueB99 You don’t just “move to” Canada. We have immigration laws too.

Unless you’re a doctor, you’re probably not “moving to Canada.”

Sorry.

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Written by Fred Brooker on 2024-12-10 at 21:57

@VeroniqueB99 life is a game, and we've found fair games not so focking drama fun in the past

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Written by Vee on 2024-12-10 at 22:06

@fredbrooker yeah it's defo no fun.

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Written by William Heber Percy on 2024-12-10 at 21:57

@VeroniqueB99 rapacious, health care, if you can call it that.

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Written by Vee on 2024-12-10 at 22:08

@wilpercy yes. Predatory as far as I'm concerned.

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Written by frlan on 2024-12-10 at 21:58

@VeroniqueB99 still working health insurance system is communism.

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Written by Vee on 2024-12-10 at 22:08

@frlan 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Written by Clovis :bdx_town: on 2024-12-11 at 07:43

@frlan since the means of production are not seized, that's just a classical socialist measure :uwu:

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Written by Clovis :bdx_town: on 2024-12-11 at 07:45

@frlan (if your post was ironic, ignore my answer haha)

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Written by MasterMischief on 2024-12-10 at 21:59

@VeroniqueB99 Gosh. I hope this person doesn't kneel during the national anthem.

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Written by Vee on 2024-12-10 at 22:10

@MasterMischief whether they do or not, nothing's gonna change... in fact the real 💩 hasn't even started yet!!

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Written by Brian Sullivan on 2024-12-10 at 22:10

@VeroniqueB99 Barbaric.

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Written by Vee on 2024-12-10 at 22:15

@briansullivan ...that's the word.

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Written by Arne Babenhauserheide on 2024-12-10 at 22:10

@VeroniqueB99 I don’t understand how the US insurance system can fail at such a classic case while the same case in Germany just works.

In Germany, after the cancer is defeated, you can continue building your life almost from the same financial position you had before cancer.

That is what happened in my family, and the insurance and the pension system even paid for rehab.

No life savings lost, because protection against such high damage, low probability risks is just what insurance is for.

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Written by Vee on 2024-12-10 at 22:17

@ArneBab It works in EVERY other democratic country.

In France, you'd paid NOTHING if you have cancer. Period. Not the chemo, not the operations/radiation, hospitaliztion $0. There are so many countries that place health as a human right but not the US. 🤷‍♀️

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Written by markus on 2024-12-10 at 23:29

@VeroniqueB99 @ArneBab this is not true in the UK by a far stretch anymore.

Sure the NHS does what it can but people do absolutely die waiting for the underfunded system to get to them.

What's the proposed solution? Private health care. I kid you not.

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Written by Vee on 2024-12-10 at 23:30

@markus @ArneBab

noooo wayyy!!! Seriously... you guys are getting HAMMERED sine Brexit...

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Written by James 🦉 #FBPE 🇪🇺 on 2024-12-11 at 00:18

@VeroniqueB99 @markus @ArneBab The news tells people they want to leave the EU, they want to leave the EU. The news tells them they want private healthcare, they all start saying they want private healthcare. smh watching it. Just enough didn't buy it, just enough to elect Labour, but I don't fancy our chances with Musk and <checks '90s Neighbours IMDB page> Holly Valance for some reason moving on us like a bitch.

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Written by Vee on 2024-12-11 at 00:41

@freequaybuoy @markus @ArneBab

🤦 doesn't sound ideal indeed...

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Written by James 🦉 #FBPE 🇪🇺 on 2024-12-11 at 01:03

@VeroniqueB99 @markus @ArneBab Well, it's still far better than the States (and boy am I being schooled just how much this week 😳), and I still count our blessings (the tabloid induced braying has quietened down on that front at least), just fear we'll still end up like the States.

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Written by Vee on 2024-12-11 at 18:02

@freequaybuoy @markus @ArneBab

I really hope you guys become more 'european' rather than 'americans' for all your sakes... I've heard stories about UK hospitals that made me shudder... 🤞

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Written by James 🦉 #FBPE 🇪🇺 on 2024-12-11 at 18:07

@VeroniqueB99 @markus @ArneBab That's exactly my hope. I mean we were, but... damn nationalists.

It's a funny thing, either side of Europe you've got these two imperial embers, Britain and Russia, fighting tooth and nail not to be part of the continent they're on, to be something special, superior, yet every effort in that respect only causes grief, hardship and conflict.

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Written by James 🦉 #FBPE 🇪🇺 on 2024-12-11 at 18:11

@VeroniqueB99 @markus @ArneBab Oh, and thanks! 🤞🏼

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Written by Vee on 2024-12-11 at 21:33

@freequaybuoy @markus @ArneBab

That is so true... the embers of imperial once great countries...👑

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Written by James 🦉 #FBPE 🇪🇺 on 2024-12-11 at 22:58

@VeroniqueB99 @markus @ArneBab And yet they could be greater - modern, progressive, advanced. It's not even like they were that fixated on the past, Britain at least, it seemed we were largely getting past it, and then the bitter, the small minded, the decrepit, the weasely hateful few consciously and actively dragged us back in a pointless, senseless monumental act of mindless vandalism.

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Written by Vee on 2024-12-11 at 22:59

@freequaybuoy @markus @ArneBab

Exactly right...

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Written by James 🦉 #FBPE 🇪🇺 on 2024-12-11 at 23:04

@VeroniqueB99 @markus @ArneBab If you don't know it, this is an excellent analysis of Russia's "identity crisis" as Vexler puts it, pinpointed in Nikolai Gogol's novel, Dead Souls.

https://youtu.be/V6UiEXrVrvg?si=ygWkJ4R0fHglJ_F8

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Written by Vee on 2024-12-11 at 23:06

@freequaybuoy @markus @ArneBab

I do. 👍

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Written by D2 on 2025-01-02 at 14:28

@freequaybuoy (I quite like “imperial embers”.)

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Written by James 🦉 #FBPE 🇪🇺 on 2025-01-02 at 18:50

@InkomTech Thanks!

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Written by kΔ on 2024-12-11 at 00:03

@VeroniqueB99 @ArneBab Scotland here, brain tumour out my head 4 years ago, checkup MRI scans every 6 months for life, and 4 anti epilepsy pills (2 medications) per day. So far cost me €0. Estimated cost for the rest of my life €0.

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Written by Vee on 2024-12-11 at 00:36

@kDelta @ArneBab

I find that totally normal... in the US you'll get "yeah but you're paying it in taxes!" (no they're not) or "that's just because etc etc"... there's so much that the US won't fix for themselves... cuz it's 'socialist'!

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Written by kΔ on 2024-12-11 at 00:42

@VeroniqueB99 @ArneBab Yes we do pay it in our taxes... and we actually pay a lot less... and EVERYONE gets healthcare! 😁👍 It’s such a messed up country I can’t even begin to understand why folk tolerate it. The first time Trump won the election he actually lost by 2.9 million votes, and they try to explain the system to you as if that justifies the absurdness of it. Odd country. A lot of nice people there though 😁

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Written by Vee on 2024-12-11 at 00:46

@kDelta @ArneBab

🤣 you are not wrong there...

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Written by Arne Babenhauserheide on 2024-12-11 at 06:45

@kDelta And as nod to some common sense: about 750.000 people who voted for Trump against Biden did not vote for Trump against Harris.

Sadly about 12 Million people who voted for Joe Biden did not vote for Kamala Harris.

So Trump still won despite losing followers.

https://www.draketo.de/politik/kommentare#trump-fewer-votes

@VeroniqueB99

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Written by sabik on 2024-12-11 at 01:27

@VeroniqueB99 @kDelta @ArneBab

you'll get "yeah but you're paying it in taxes!"

What's the US government spending on healthcare compared to other countries 🤔

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Written by Vee on 2024-12-11 at 18:19

@sabik @kDelta @ArneBab

You know you won't get that level of analysis anyway...

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Written by David S on 2024-12-11 at 07:49

@VeroniqueB99 @kDelta @ArneBab this always annoys me. We live in a society, which is the definition of socialism. It's really just where we choose as the edge of the tribe that people are arguing about (household, family, friends, street, village, town, state, country, planet (if anyone ever settles in the moon or Mars), etc.

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Written by Vee on 2024-12-11 at 19:28

@Pionir @kDelta @ArneBab

Go explain THAT to these people... I just walk away.

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Written by Jiří Eischmann on 2024-12-11 at 05:40

@VeroniqueB99 @ArneBab the same here in Czechia. My father was fighting cancer for 7 years and never paid anything. The insurance company even reimbursed travel costs to the hospital.

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Written by Vee on 2024-12-11 at 19:11

@sesivany @ArneBab

Yeah that's the case in most of Europe. If you pay it'll be a nominal fee. I don't quite see the advantage of being a society if that's not a thing...

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Written by Phil Thane ✅ on 2024-12-11 at 08:12

@VeroniqueB99

The UK NHS Congress in for a lot of criticism mostly from right wing politicians beholden to the finance 'industry'. But it's dealt with my 2 different cancers and continues to monitor my health. Thanks #NHS

@ArneBab

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Written by Vee on 2024-12-11 at 19:30

@pthane @ArneBab 👍

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Written by Jim Schoch on 2024-12-11 at 19:17

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