Ok, that's exciting.
Moved from mastodon.nz. The transfer somehow ate
a) all my settings (eg my 2k+ filters)
b) all my following
Despite exporting everything before I started (utterly useless information there).
So, looks like I'll need to manually refollow everything. Please be patient.
Ugh. Fucking mastodon eh?
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@sidawson At least it was painless for us :-)
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@spudooli Yay! Win!
massive, massive pain in the fucking arse at this end. I suspect mastodon.nz completely fucked up re "handing over" anything more useful than uhh, the people who were following me (ie, the aspect of the account I care absolutely least about)
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@sidawson @spudooli This is the normal Mastodon profile migration experience, as I understand it, though I read https://docs.joinmastodon.org/user/moving/#move several times before moving myself and I still wasn’t sure.
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@sidawson Oh noooooooooooooooooooooo D:
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@sidawson Glad you landed somewhere!
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@Zesti thank youuuu! Now to completely rebuild everything. Especially the extensive and carefully crafted filters, which the previous instance seems to have completely eaten THANKS MODS
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@sidawson oh no :( glad we didn't lose you though!
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@rhamphorhynchus Kinda, at least.
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@sidawson the filters need exporting and importing, but the followers should catch up I think?
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@essjax @sidawson
Just got around to doing an export / dump of my own account, since I realised it's been a while since I've done that!
Can confirm that it looks like Filters are one of those things it doesn't export at all (strange how I thought it might've n the past?), with an outstanding Github Ticket for implementing support for doing that 🙄
https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/30174
One of the biggest archilles heels of Mastodon / Fediverse is really the data portability.
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@aligorith @sidawson yeah just realising that I don't use filters, that's why it wasn't an issue for me 😬
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@aligorith Agreed. Like, the stuff that's the hardest to replicate - surely that should be the focus of what to move?
But hey, I'm not a mastodon dev. Who knows where their attention is
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@sidawson
LOL, probably trying to hide the evne more scrollbars, add more floaty buttons no-one uses, and make those obscene "banners" even worse looking. 😜
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@sidawson
Am reminded again that one of the hobby projects deep down on my list is to finally look into the Mastodon / ActivityPub API myself at some point, and build up a personal suite of overpowered tools for wrangling them. :P
(But yeah, a quick search yielded a Python script with a TK gui that claimed to be able to scrape Filter data using the API. Hopefully that may still be usable for you?)
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@aligorith Naw, too late. My account there has been killed/locked/something. I don't know. Anyway, I can't see anything on it anymore. c'est la vie.
But yeah, overpowered tools to scratch a personal itch? Hell to the yes. Huge fan.
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@aligorith Ahh ha ha. Yeaaah, I have quiiiite a few css tweaks to calm all that nonsense the hell down, lol
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@sidawson Holy crap, that's is far from optimal! .aube you can reframe this as a Spring clean of your presence? 😉
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@jond I don't have a brain full of "usernames + previous experiences), alas. So, I just refollowed all 700 people who were following me (ha ha, it was actually over 1k, at least - mastodon.nz ate a bunch). So, now I'll have to sort through them all again.
Plus I lost all my filters, account settings etc.
basically, the worst of all worlds. In short, fuck mastodon.nz, what a bunch of useless assholes.
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@sidawson this is really unfortunate. If you have the original exports, they could be recreated? We have a tiny cli tool with @tootsdk that can help script the process (I’d be happy to add the needed methods if they’re supported by the mastodon API)
Either way, happy new instance day ✨
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@konstantin I did an export. Had a look at it. It contains followings, nothing else.
I should have looked at it, been suspicious, requested another one, maybe?
But basically, the mastodon.nz export process if fucked, and ate a ton of critical data. So, it's gone.
(I've written similar tools myself, in the past, to help others)
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@sidawson@mas.too Oh right, my next suggestion was going to be that filters are also available via the API, if your old account is still reachable…
But yeah, bad bad mastodon.nz, they’re in the past now, good to have moved on, maybe the smell of fresh new instance could make up for some of it 🫂.
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@konstantin Nah, they fucked up so bad that pretty much instantly I couldn't reach any of my critical preference parameters. Bunch of useless assholes (although the tech running the os/hardware is damn solid).
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@sidawson damn it, that's gotta be too dispiriting.
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@dznz Yeeaaah. Not super encouraging. But I guess at least I'm not 100% off fedi. So, small win?
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@sidawson Sorry to read that. I had said years ago that data portability was BS. You never know, it might catch up.
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@jackyan Eh. I doubt it. Just gotta recreate months of work from scratch.
Fucking tedious.
ie, you were - as so often - 100% correct.
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@sidawson Unfortunately, like you, I found out the hard way.
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@jackyan Argh. Yeah, it's the filters that I miss the most. Holy shit I spent months curating those
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@sidawson Aw man, that sucks. 🙁 It does remind me why I haven’t moved despite having that Vivaldi Social account (and getting a really intolerant response from a total stranger yesterday did not help!).
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@jackyan Yeaaah. I'd thought (ahh, sweet summer child that I was) that moving instances would be harmless, easy, relatively painless.
Alas. It's about on par with changing email addresses.
So dumb. The tech is almost there. I mean, key mechanisms are clearly in place. But the implementation is about 15% done, if I'm generous. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
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@sidawson Seems like another long-lauded feature never tested in the real world before its claims were made, like self-driving Teslas.
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@jackyan yeaaaaahhh
maybe, small win, mastodon doesn't catch fire constantly?
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@sidawson
Sounds painful. What prompted the move?
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@thrashcardiom Ugh. Short version: I replied to a random post (with a link), said I couldn't see the link. Promptly got sarcastically & racially abused. I said the guy was a bit of a dick (an insult, apparently). Someone else jumped in & (again) racially abused me & told me to fuck off. I said that instance appeared to attract assholes. NZ mods sided with both of them (who both reported me). First person was their instance mod (so, zero value in reporting).
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@sidawson That sounds like a very good reason. What made you select mas.to?
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@thrashcardiom ha ha @brena convinced me, lol
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@sidawson @thrashcardiom urgh. Missed all that.
What an absolute PITA.
Perpetually glad I dropped out to my own corner...
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@Phil_Tanner @thrashcardiom If I thought I could handle (spoons, time, experience - despite starting using linux in 91?) running one myself, I probably would
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@sidawson @thrashcardiom honestly? I just pay Masto Host and don't think about it.
It's just like using the .NZ option, only without the associated issues
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@Phil_Tanner Def something to consider; thanks.
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@sidawson @Phil_Tanner I thought about running up a instance of it but decided not to for exactly the same reasons. Too much effort these days.
Didn't mind so much 15 years ago when Diaspora first appeared. Had some fun with that for a while. These days I just can't be bothered.
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@thrashcardiom @Phil_Tanner Yeaaah, like there isn't already enough bullshit to wade through on your typical day :/
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@sidawson @thrashcardiom Ugh. That is disappointing.
I have been thinking about changing, but yeah spoons are a real issue...
Will be curious to hear how you find your new instance.
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@curiousjay So far (ie, half an hour) they've been fine.
So, huge sales pitch there.
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@sidawson Off to a great start!!
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@sidawson That sucks man! Glad you’re still around the ‘verse, though. I’ve toyed with running my own recently but decided against it - not enough time. I’d like to be able to follow some Threads accounts but it’s not a big enough ‘want’ to out weigh the effort needed.
I did move from mastodon.nzoss.nz over to mastodon.nz in the early days and that was surprisingly seamless.
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@donkey Maybe moving to them is seamless, but holy crap, moving from them was a complete disaster. Would have almost been simpler to just start a blank new account. Almost (I kept followers, lost everything else)
Dunno about connecting with Threads. Trust zuck less distance than I could kick him (which I'm sure, with some effort, could be quite a way)
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@sidawson @thrashcardiom wait, wtaf? a) how did I miss this & b) I don’t get this at all. Someone racially abused you? A mod? Tf?
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@heyrochelle Shit server. Bunch of assholes.
That's the short version.
I dunno man. If I was black & living in America, I'd be stressed the fuck out right now, too. And rightly so. I do NOT envy them at all.
I'm more pissed at the mastodon.nz mods, frankly.
But whatever. It's done, I'm gone.
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@sidawson well, it won’t be the first time that mods have made a bad decision.
I’m glad you’re ok, & hopefully that’s the end of it. But yeah, I’m pissed off on your behalf.
I can’t work that one out, especially considering not too many white guys get racially abused. I thought the mods would know you better than that.
You’re away from there, which is the main thing.
I can put up a post letting people know you’ve moved servers if that would be helpful? Lmk.
Big hugs ok :hug: ❤️❤️
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@heyrochelle eh, should be ok - I think the system pulls most things across. So, tons of configuration required, but whatevs, I can do that.
On the scale of "racial abuse" it was nothing. Just weird to make "I clicked a link and it didn't work" into something about the colour of my skin. But ok, I'm not swilling in that brain, so I'm fine (relatively).
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@sidawson @thrashcardiom I missed this, too. Holy crap, so venomous. I wish things would change there.
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@jackyan Yeaah, def a bit much.
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@sidawson and yet I'm already following you having done nothing... So that survived.
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@blakjak My follows were the only thing that did (and even that, only a fraction of them, I think).
Everything else has gone (profile details, who I follow, my filters etc). Damn tedious.
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@sidawson indeed that sucks, duly noted!
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@sidawson Here you are again. 😃 Masto instance migration is indeed not a great experience, doesn't really live up to its promise of easily moving. That's why I'm very hesitant to move away from my other instance. 🥺
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@sidawson Glad you’re still here! Sounds like a crumby way to spend a day. My dog sends his regards - he was also in a frustrating situation recently…
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@akoaroha and hose fault is that, eh? :)
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@sidawson whoa. You had so many filters. Still it’s necessary. This is something Mastodon sucks at that wouldn’t be a problem on any commercial platform.
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