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Written by Dan Gillmor on 2024-08-15 at 15:27

When I stopped being active at Twitter, I had more than 45,000 followers and a moderate amount of engagement (replies, retweets, etc.).

I have a third fewer followers here, and at least 10 times the genuine engagement. Sure, some bots, but most of it is genuine -- and useful.

I no longer see what (some) people I respect are saying publicly. I miss their thoughts, and wish they'd recognize that by staying active there they are supporting a dangerous extremist.

They feel trapped. They're not.

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Written by Lee Fife - old account on 2024-08-15 at 15:35

@dangillmor the thing about the ones who remain in elon's fascist playground is that I used to respect some of them. And that respect diminishes every day that they prop up the Nazis ...

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Written by charvaka on 2024-08-15 at 15:42

@dangillmor I had over 10,000 followers there, I have fewer than 1,000 here. I have more engagement AND fewer shouting matches here.

The people who are still active on #Xitter know that they are enabling the fascist-curious #oligarch who is rooting for civil war to end democracy. They just don't mind that as much as they are afraid of losing their large follower counts. They are #complicit.

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Written by Budgegeria 🦜 on 2024-08-16 at 08:44

@charvaka @dangillmor What they also do is sharing Harris and Walz content that fascists want to see disappear on Twitter.

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Written by Francois Heinderyckx on 2024-08-15 at 15:45

@dangillmor

At this point, when I see someone's byline or bio mention a presence on Twitter/X, it downgrades that person’s credibility to critical levels. It screams “my craving for attention outweighs my sense of ethics.” Not the strongest platform for one’s credibility!

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Written by LexiGirl on 2024-08-15 at 18:02

@fheinderyckx @dangillmor I feel exactly the same. Sometimes I see a screenshot of someone’s tweet and whilst I find myself agreeing with their point, the fact that they made it on twitter is like, minus 10 points….

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Written by LexiGirl on 2024-08-16 at 13:09

@fheinderyckx @dangillmor perfect example….

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Written by Francesco P Lovergine on 2024-08-15 at 15:55

@dangillmor

The FOMO effect is exactly the trick X/Twitter and other socials use to create their walled not-so-gardens. Escaping from them is an ethical duty.

https://lovergine.com/the-shattered-internet.html

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Written by snowbat on 2024-08-15 at 15:55

@dangillmor your Twitter account is 17 years old though.. how many of those 45,000 accounts are still in regular use?

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Written by daniel on 2024-08-15 at 16:17

@dangillmor I had Twitter for probably three years prior to the launch of mastodon. By the third year, without even posting anything mind you, I had 853 followers all of whom were bots. It's a minefield of bots and elongated muskrat is doing nothing about it because he's making money from it.

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Written by Ryan Lounsbury on 2024-08-15 at 16:23

@dangillmor In some ways I appreciate the smaller circle. My feed is more manageable and I actually feel seen with some people I've connected to that I wouldn't have on Twitter.

Mastodon isn't perfect but it is the only social platform that aligns with the open source and democratized internet I feel we should have.

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Written by Alex Wild on 2024-08-15 at 16:38

@dangillmor This has been my experience as well. 30K Twitter followers to 7K here, but more engagement than before.

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Written by sleepy on 2024-08-15 at 16:52

@dangillmor The problem is that once it catches on more the bots will become a huge problem here as well, and one that is harder to reckon with sadly.

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Written by Mark Burton on 2024-08-15 at 16:52

@dangillmor Ditto. Not so many followers but a similar ratio and I do miss seeing some things shared. However, we can't use a fascist racist's platform.

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Written by Djembro, RO, supports 🇺🇦🇬🇪 on 2024-08-15 at 17:08

@dangillmor

I really appreciate the algorithm-free environment of Mastodon. Or maybe I should say I’m the algorithm. What I see is what I want, no more, no less. And it sure isn’t hard to connect with thoughtful folks.

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Written by Kimberley on 2024-08-15 at 17:37

@dangillmor Hear, hear. This is preferable to strengthening the myriad hands of danger, ever-present in centralized social media platforms.

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Written by Preston MacDougall on 2024-08-15 at 17:38

@dangillmor #Twitter :birdsite: 👉 #Xitter 🚽 , so twits still tweeting are 💩s.

[#]TwitterExodus

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Written by TC Won't Give In To Lies on 2024-08-15 at 17:49

@dangillmor

💯 I left Twitter the day Musk closed the del.

I just don't understand how any ethical people (and journalists in particular) remain on Twitter, giving Musk credibility and content.

We must rebuild our social networks in safer spaces. The sooner we start, the sooner we finish.

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Written by ≡ʀʀ on 2024-08-15 at 17:55

@dangillmor i try to write on both by publishing screenshots and attaching links.

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Written by Jayme Zinn on 2024-08-15 at 17:58

@dangillmor free speech is only free when we don't allow some people to express themselves

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Written by Aviva Gary on 2024-08-15 at 18:20

@dangillmor They are "trapped" by money 🤑

In this world a huge engagement engine (like Twitter once was) is the goose who laid the golden egg

Problem is someone took that goose for thanksgiving and...

But! All the people see there is it is still a way to make money and so they will stay for this promise

But the cake is a lie...

(I only still keep my account there so some Nazi doesn't coopt my stuff)

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Written by David Palk#RejoinEU 💖🇪🇺🤎🕊 on 2024-08-15 at 18:34

@dangillmor agreeing 100%

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Written by oftl on 2024-08-15 at 18:39

I don't really like that they are unethical for staying high horse, even if not direct. For whatever reason, not everybody thinks in those terms.

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Written by Raymond Russell on 2024-08-15 at 18:50

@dangillmor

Listening to Lewis Goodall and Jon Sopel on the lastest Newsagents podcast and the subject was should we leave Twitter.

I respect some of the honesty they expressed about why they are still on Twitter and the introspection but I am not buying their conclusion that they will stay on, using it less and mostly to promote their platform as a reliable news source amongst the sewage.

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Written by Wokebloke for Democracy on 2024-08-15 at 19:01

@dangillmor

I found the same thing with engagement here on Mastodon. Glad you're here.

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Written by :startrek: Ted on 2024-08-15 at 19:18

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Written by Raven667 on 2024-08-15 at 19:33

@dangillmor I've found that with the bridges for Bluesky and Threads that most of the people who used to be on Twitter are available on Mastodon, it's the people who are only on Twitter that are missed, but that's a minority of those I followed at this point. I mostly use microblogging as a news aggregator, so between who is available here and with an RSS bridge I'm pretty much set.

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Written by Henri Lœvenbruck on 2024-08-15 at 19:39

@dangillmor

Same here.

🙏

@vdsfeulement

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Written by Sami on 2024-08-15 at 19:49

@dangillmor

Hi Dan,

I only hooked up with Mastodon today. Still trying to get to grips with it all. New stuff always difficult when you are in your 70's. Read your piece on leaving Twitter and the danger Musk poses at the moment in the USA, by getting into bed with the monster that is Trump,

Best Regards,

Sami.

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Written by J 💫🏴‍☠️ :lions: on 2024-08-15 at 20:21

@dangillmor Most of them are still there because they want to be. It's sad, but that's the reality. I left several good friends behind because they simply won't let go.

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Written by 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 🇮🇱 🐧 🥦 on 2024-08-15 at 20:41

@dangillmor

There are still so many people on X who will not leave for the reasons you mentioned.

I wish they could see this.

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Written by enoch_exe_inc on 2024-08-15 at 20:52

@dangillmor By the time I was banned from Twitter, I had roughly 200 followers—and none of the engagement of this Mastodon account. If Twitter really was a town square, then it was that of the City from #Blame! except even more impossibly inhospitable.

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Written by Mary Hilton on 2024-08-15 at 21:32

@dangillmor You should, if you haven't already, invited them to join us. I bet they'd be happier here than there.

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Written by Dan Gillmor on 2024-08-15 at 21:33

@fmhilton They have declined.

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Written by Mary Hilton on 2024-08-15 at 21:40

@dangillmor That is sad, really that they would rather support a fascist pig than to be with real human beings. My condolences to you on your loss, I think?

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Written by kcarruthers on 2024-08-15 at 21:45

@dangillmor I’m glad you’re here Dan. You were one of my early follows on twitter back in the day. ☺️

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Written by SpaceLifeForm on 2024-08-15 at 22:41

@dangillmor

It is the inertia problem. They are scared to leave.

They should not be scared. They will get more love here than they know.

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Written by RodneyPetersonTalentAgency on 2024-08-15 at 23:21

@dangillmor

You have roughly 80% of the number of followers you had before. Likely more than 100% more if you don’t count all the fake profiles you likely had following you there.

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Written by ˈdälfən™🐬 💥 🌊 on 2024-08-15 at 23:24

@dangillmor

I have about 1/9 of the followers here and it’s so much better.

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Written by Kofi Loves Efia :verified: on 2024-08-16 at 00:25

@dangillmor Twitter is a Nazi bar. It's instructive to see who doesn't care as long as being a part of a Nazi bar gives them "influence with the discourse"

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Written by PNW Deb on 2024-08-16 at 06:44

@dangillmor I’m so glad you are here.

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Written by Mike Buckley on 2024-08-16 at 09:07

@dangillmor If they were morally brave enough to leave X, others would follow. A ripple is only started if a stone is thrown. I am reminded of my visit to a bike firm to ask if any interest in my design for a new type of ‘bike’. No, I was told, if there was a demand for it, it would be on the streets already. There are now hundreds of thousands of ‘cargo’ bikes on the roads - but not my design alas, which I think would be more popular for the most popular uses.

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Written by Jay 🇺🇦 on 2024-08-16 at 12:19

@dangillmor

Exactly. If you post on Fashtwitter or buy a TeSSla in 2024, you cannot claim ignorance anymore.

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Written by Matthias Bürcher on 2024-08-17 at 10:22

@dangillmor @peter I have 5 times less users and much less engagement now, because we are a kind in a bubble. I do not regret leaving twitter, but I regret that public spaces apparently are not possible.

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Written by Merry Christmas on 2024-08-28 at 13:34

@dangillmor

I agree it seems so many good people I followed on Twitter have come here for a few minutes and gone back to their thousands of Followers, and I think that is sad.

Anyway, this little Remain/Labour voter from Leicester has left Toxic Twitter, I am now following you, any chance of a Follow back?

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Written by Kevin Karhan :verified: on 2024-09-01 at 19:23

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Noone is forced to use #Shitter, and continuing to do so is a #choice!

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