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Written by Eniko Fox on 2025-01-30 at 08:31

I legitimately was under the impression "the nazis made the trains run on time" at least when said in Europe was a reference to the trains taking people to concentration camps, and the trains in question running on time was to be considered a very bad thing

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Written by Infoseepage on 2025-01-30 at 08:34

@eniko Actually, it's a Mussolini reference:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/loco-motive/

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Written by Infoseepage on 2025-01-30 at 08:41

@eniko Makes for an interesting Google Ngram search. Incidences of the phrase peaked in 1945. Gee, wonder why.

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Written by j_bertolotti on 2025-01-30 at 08:51

@Infoseepage @eniko

There is a widespread, albeit easily debunked, myth that the fascist government in Italy was efficient and well organized. Which, given how bad they managed just about everything, show that they were pretty good at propaganda.

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Written by Alistair K on 2025-01-30 at 09:03

@eniko I remember older people in Italy grumbling that trains hadn't run on time since Mussolini. I think that there might have been two strikes while I was there? I had barely even started learning Italian when I encountered my first one. The staff and passengers were so chill about it – it was clearly just normality. I stumbled through a request for documentation, and the guy behind the counter just pulled a sign off the window, stamped it and handed it to me.

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Written by Alistair K on 2025-01-30 at 09:05

@eniko I still remember what it's called – lo sciopero.

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Written by Henri on 2025-01-30 at 09:23

@eniko Yeah, like people said, it was about Mussolini and I think it's also a false statement, the trains were not on time at all.

IIRC, another thing about the German trains is that the ones carrying people to camps had higher priority than the ones carrying supplies to the front, so it was actively harmful for their own war effort.

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Written by Efi (nap pet) 🦊💤 on 2025-01-30 at 09:34

@eniko it definitely started as propaganda, then it seems it forked into two meaning, one being nazi propaganda still, the other being what you thought

I've hear both interpretations before, as you can imagine, from very different people

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Written by Brian Jeffears on 2025-01-30 at 12:47

@eniko "But at least" as the first 3 words I always heard growing up hearing that statement makes a hell of a context difference.

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