If you're wondering why free software and open source remain at the forefront of innovation and the long-term source of creativity, it seems the Deepseek CEO gets it...
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[#]opensource #freesoftware #ai #llm
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@a Not to downplay open-source, but actually this model probably won’t say anything critical of the Chinese Communist Party.
Open-sourcing #ai models is not the same as open-source software. They probably won’t let you inspect the training data.
Having this cheaper model being picked for software projects instead of OpenAI is among other things a way to tilt the global knowledge generation machine in favour of their point-of-view.
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I don't agree with the argument about country-specific influence. We face the same (and worst) issues with the SaaS-only proprietary model (mostly US-based), where we lack the ability to reproduce the solutions ourselves.
We already have third parties reproducing deepseek. https://huggingface.co/blog/open-r1
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@a @gimulnautti They are reproducing the -R1 variant. But the training of the DeepSeek V3 Base Model is not reproducible.
It's a bit deceptive to say that “deepseek" is being reproduced.
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I mean -R1, of course.
The papers indeed serve as a basis for -R1 reproducibility. V3 is partially documented but doesn’t include the complete training models needed for full reproducibility.
Still, it’s far better documented than the current SaaS proprietary models that many people rely on.
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