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Written by Håkan Geijer on 2025-01-25 at 21:25

I cannot get over how fucked the internet is becoming because of LLMs and how absolutely critical it is to create meaningful 1-on-1 relationships rather than going for "reach" or "virality."

https://hallofdreams.org/posts/physicsforums/

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Written by HeavenlyPossum on 2025-01-25 at 22:25

@hakan_geijer

I will never understand all the effort expended just to fill the internet with useless gibberish that no one asked for

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Written by Håkan Geijer on 2025-01-25 at 22:43

@HeavenlyPossum An extension of SEO has always been my assumption

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Written by FoolishOwl on 2025-01-26 at 00:01

@hakan_geijer @HeavenlyPossum I think it's a mix of material interests and ideology: the crude naive materialism that has long plagued engineering fusing with the crude behaviorism that's been the core of "managerial culture" for a long time.

Part of it is that this wave of capitalists is at several removes from the material basis of wealth production. There are many stories of Musk's ignorance of technology, for instance.

They literally don't understand that labor creates wealth.

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Written by William Pietri on 2025-01-27 at 22:13

@hakan_geijer I think that's spot on. So much of the negative LLM usage is just previous bad behavior but in higher volume.

@HeavenlyPossum

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Written by Vex on 2025-01-25 at 23:02

@HeavenlyPossum @hakan_geijer destabilization helps power accumulations (hierarchies). Truth is power, but when there is no truth, power is truth.

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Written by HeavenlyPossum on 2025-01-25 at 23:06

@hakan_geijer @vex

I mean, yes, this makes perfect sense from a sort of meta-perspective, but it’s hard to imagine someone thinking “I will fake old posts on a forum for helping people with their physics homework in order to accumulate more power.”

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Written by Vex on 2025-01-25 at 23:08

@HeavenlyPossum @hakan_geijer sure but it's not hard to imagine "I will poison this well so the people will need my water", but with information instead of water.

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Written by Violet Madder on 2025-01-26 at 00:11

@vex @HeavenlyPossum @hakan_geijer

That! Yes!

It's a weapon. Signal jamming.

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Written by Vex on 2025-01-25 at 23:10

@HeavenlyPossum @hakan_geijer plus think of how patriarchal men catcall & make women feel unsafe almost instinctually. People know what benefits the systems they worship, whether it be subconscious or conscious.

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Written by Siguza on 2025-01-28 at 21:35

@HeavenlyPossum @hakan_geijer engagement, advertising, money.

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Written by undead enby of the apocalypse on 2025-01-26 at 04:59

@hakan_geijer thanks I hate it…

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Written by undead enby of the apocalypse on 2025-01-26 at 05:03

@hakan_geijer this scares me so much, the complete destruction of what used to be a collection of much of humanity’s knowledge, by drowning it in completely baseless, wrong but plausible sounding gibberish, spreading massive amounts of misinformation in the process. And with this kind of historical revisionism it’s becoming even harder to find anything that is not likely to be like that. This really is the post-factual era of the internet

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Written by ohmrun on 2025-01-27 at 12:37

@hakan_geijer

"The Wayback Machine gives us an answer: while the account currently lists 2,891 posts, an archive from 2019 lists 74. Sometime since 2019, these posts were inserted into the database directly, without updating the profile at all. "

ffffffffffffff

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