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Written by Chris Adams on 2025-01-24 at 16:02

Client-side MFA? 😵‍💫

https://samcurry.net/hacking-subaru

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Written by Chris Adams on 2025-01-24 at 16:05

I’m feeling better about our 2006 Subaru – every time I’ve driven a newer one, the computer has felt like the opposite of a selling point.

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Written by Jeff Triplett on 2025-01-24 at 16:14

@acdha I think the newer models are amazing and safer than the mid-2010 Impreza we upgraded from (I went from a 2002 Pathfinder to an Ascent).

That said, Subaru deserves the roasting they get over this.

But going to a system with full cameras and all the monitoring makes driving it and dealing with other drivers who aren't paying attention feel like I was previously driving in the Stone Age (if they had non-Flinstone cars)

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Written by Chris Adams on 2025-01-24 at 18:10

@webology yes - those are good. I just wish they weren’t so commonly tied to touchscreens and always-on unauditable networking.

Things have improved slightly on quality: in the 2010s I crashed 3 vendors’ entertainment systems by connecting my phone via USB because apparently I have more iTunes tracks than their QA department.

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Written by Jeff Triplett on 2025-01-24 at 18:15

@acdha We could never reliably get the mid-10s dashboard to work with bluetooth or anything.

I don't use the touchscreen for much outside of maps and that's via voice. With the auto-break/driving assist, it feels 100% safer than it would have been without it.

I'm not downplaying their security issues btw. We were talking offline and can't get our Outback in before early February for a software update (which I'm going to try to do from our house wifi tonight).

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Written by Chris Adams on 2025-01-24 at 23:56

@webology yeah, we don’t need a replacement yet (we just broke 100k total, 26k from the two-ish years we were in San Diego before 2009) but each time I tried a newer one it was like “guys, don’t add downsides”.

Every Subaru I’ve tried is still better than the Tesla Y we got from Hertz a couple months ago, though - owner aside, just the door locks and sharp edges would’ve been enough to tank that for me.

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Written by Jeff Triplett on 2025-01-25 at 02:40

@acdha I wasn't impressed by the Tesla for similar reasons.

Subaru's EV model wasn't great but wasn't terrible when I looked. We travel to see family enough that charging was non-trivial for 9-hour trips. I don't quite trust the reliability of hybrids yet (too many family have had too many issues), but I hope Subaru gets better for both. My Nissan lasted 22 years.

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Written by Kornel on 2025-01-25 at 03:05

@webology @acdha Subaru on Toyota's BZ4X platform is not a good EV.

If you care about road trips, this list has plenty of cars that can charge quicker and don't overheat:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1V6ucyFGKWuSQzvI8lMzvvWJHrBS82echMVJH37kwgjE/edit?gid=15442336#gid=15442336

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Written by Kornel on 2025-01-25 at 03:18

@webology @acdha Toyota is very far behind on batteries, battery management, and charging. Their experience with small low-voltage inefficiency-forgiving hybrids did not translate at all into expertise in large high-voltage high-efficiency drivetrains.

Nissan has been a pioneer of BEVs, but they've sat a decade doing nothing. Leaf is stuck with a dead charging standard. Ariya is so-so. e-GMP cars (Ioniq, Kia EV) charge 2x faster for the same price.

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Written by Jeff Triplett on 2025-01-25 at 03:30

@kornel @acdha Thanks. I'm already in a 2023 Ascent which works well for us. It's not too big and we can use the extra row for seats when the grandparents are in town. We just got a 2024 Outback so I hope we are good for at least another decade. Maybe then, an EV will make more sense and have a better range.

Driving across Northern Missouri or Iowa was depressing when I looked two years ago.

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Toot

Written by Chris Adams on 2025-01-25 at 14:10

@webology @kornel we’re in the annoying place where we don’t use our car for weeks at a stretch in daily life but there are enough trips for things like camping or Cub Scouts that we’d be renting a dozen times or so a year. I’ve been looking into that a bit since we could use something small like for the three of us but a few times a year we have visiting family and an extra row would be great.

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Descendants

Written by Jeff Triplett on 2025-01-25 at 16:01

@acdha @kornel I feel that. That's how my Pathfinder was. It was not driven for two or three years because I walked to work every day and lived downtown. Post-kid life is different, and I drive 4 to 8 miles daily to take them to school and places. (Biking isn't an option for anywhere we don't already walk to.)

The Ascent might be too big for you if you are used to a small car. We haul our four-person family, a large dog, and sometimes two extra family or friends.

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Written by Chris Adams on 2025-01-25 at 16:30

@webology Yeah, we're in a weird spot on that - our dog is smaller and also 14 years old so if we bought a car it would definitely outlive her. The main crunch is when my sister visits since even at their current ages 3 cousins is a bit cramped in the back of our Outback and that means two of the parents won't fit. I think we're going to say that's a good rental situation since it's only once or twice a year and not worth paying more for all of the time.

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Written by Jeff Triplett on 2025-01-25 at 16:35

@acdha We make a few bigger trips a year, and I have had those thoughts. I rented a van and took 8 of our family for a 16-hour road trip.

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