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Written by Aral Balkan on 2025-01-25 at 10:49

A reminder that Greenland is part of the Overseas Countries and Territories (OCT) of the EU and Greenlandic citizens are EU citizens.

Any move by Trump and the US to invade and annex Greenland would be a declaration of war with the EU and a gross violation of its 1951 treaty to protect Greenland from attack. (Though not ironic as the mafia never protects you from itself.) Furthermore, an attack on a NATO member would be deemed an attack on all other NATO members (Art 5) and a violation of the treaty (Art 8).

If neither EU nor NATO members did anything to protect Greenland/Denmark against the US’s overwhelming military might (as is likely) – and, remember, US troops are already in Greenland and in other EU countries also – it would signal that no EU or NATO state is safe should a stronger military decide to invade.

If anything, if the EU hasn’t understood it yet, it must start treating the US not as an ally but as a threat. Trump isn’t a clown. He’s the fascist leader of the country with – in the words of Kamala Harris – the world’s most lethal military.

We must shore up our defenses because it is becoming impossible to ignore that the EU is caught between two hostile forces: a fascist US on the one side and a fascist Russia on the other, neither of which have two shits to give about international law (that was a quaint concept while it lasted, wasn’t it?)

Either we learn to defend ourselves in the EU or we become a vassal state of Gilead. And, as much as I oppose militaries – in a world in which they very much exist – I’d much rather it wasn’t the latter.

https://www.salon.com/2025/01/24/horrendous-call-with-denmark-pm-over-greenland-deal-left-danes-in-crisis-mode/

[#]USA #fascism #EU #Greenland #Denmark #NATO #war

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Written by Nils Skirnir on 2025-01-25 at 12:36

@aral

The French seem to have realized the threat from the US. Germany hasn’t or can’t do anything about it. Italy, Poland, among others seem to relish more US control. The UK is a complete vassal state.

I’d be shocked if any European state would raise a finger in the face of any takeover of Greenland. Or Denmark for that matter.

[#]greenland #europe #usa #fascism #dictatorship #empire

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Written by j_bertolotti on 2025-01-25 at 14:34

@nilsskirnir

Keep on mind that Italy has an openly fascist givernment right now, who is very happy at how things are turning around. The only saving grace is that Italy has a ton of balances and checks, so there is only so much the government can do.

Poland also has a largely fascist government, but they hate Russia with the fury of a thousand suns (for obvious historical reasons).

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Written by Pteryx the Puzzle Secretary on 2025-01-25 at 15:08

@j_bertolotti @nilsskirnir @aral

The US is supposed to have checks and balances too. They failed, or we wouldn't have reached the point of Trump being reelected in the first place.

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Written by j_bertolotti on 2025-01-25 at 18:10

@pteryx

I am sorry to break it to you, but the US have no separation of powers, so there is little barrier for a single group to get all the power.

(Mind you, here in the UK where I live it is not much better. Things here work under the assumption that "surely nobody is going to be so rude as to do that!")

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Written by Pteryx the Puzzle Secretary on 2025-01-25 at 18:11

@j_bertolotti @nilsskirnir @aral

I'm left to wonder what you're defining as separation of powers, then.

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Written by j_bertolotti on 2025-01-25 at 18:14

@pteryx If the head of the executive power can decide who the judges are, they have power over the judicial system, which means the two powers are NOT separated.

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Written by Pteryx the Puzzle Secretary on 2025-01-25 at 18:15

@j_bertolotti

Except that those nominations then have to be confirmed by Congress.

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Written by j_bertolotti on 2025-01-25 at 18:17

@pteryx Which is the legislative power. Still no separation.

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Written by Pteryx the Puzzle Secretary on 2025-01-25 at 18:21

@j_bertolotti

What are you proposing, that in addition to a president, hundreds of Congresspeople, and all our state and local elections, we also elect thousands of Federal judges, with this somehow not ending up with us having even more partisan judges?

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Written by j_bertolotti on 2025-01-25 at 18:22

@pteryx Have you ever thought about looking what other countries do?

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Written by Nils Skirnir on 2025-01-25 at 23:23

@j_bertolotti @pteryx @aral

England is much better off in this regard.

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Written by Nils Skirnir on 2025-01-25 at 23:56

@j_bertolotti @pteryx @aral

Sadly, for all the good points of the English system, the UK is now a US vassal state.

[#]usa #uk #dictatorship #war #fascism

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Written by calsnoboarder on 2025-01-25 at 23:56

@j_bertolotti @pteryx @nilsskirnir @aral Explain Brexit then... because surely, the idea of criminalizing immigrants is what prompted Brexit not any of the other nonsense about economics. I would argue its really rude to shun you neighbors in need.

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Written by Nils Skirnir on 2025-01-25 at 23:21

@pteryx @j_bertolotti @aral

The US system of ‘checks and balances’ is largely mythical. All it took to completely break it was SCOTUS handing Bush the presidency in 2000. Then the same court ruling that the President has unlimited powers. And someone who wants to be Caesar (or at least Sulla)

[#]usa #fascism #dictatorship

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Written by Nils Skirnir on 2025-01-26 at 05:10

@j_bertolotti @aral

And vice versa re Russia. For similar historical reasons

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