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Written by Ronja on 2025-01-25 at 07:44

What a change of perspective! The story of "1984" told by Julia and "Lolita" told by the now grown-up Dolores Haze instead of the paedophile Humbert Humbert.

Trigger warning: "Julia" is like "1984" very dystopian. "Bye bye Lolita" contains details of sexual abuse.

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Written by Ronja on 2025-01-26 at 09:26

The Power of Retellings! 📚✨

Huge thanks to everyone who shared book titles with a new perspective. Now I'm 100% convinced—retelling stories is definitely a thing!

[#]Retellings #BookRecommendations #Books #bookstodon

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Written by Lydia Conwell :mastodon: on 2025-01-25 at 07:49

@RonjaBiernat I'd be interested to read the 1984 one. I'm not so much interested in Lolita. Although I'd proably read this new version before the original. Also: can't read German anyway.

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Written by Ronja on 2025-01-25 at 07:58

@lydiaconwell I am curious to know what you think of the book. I read a little over 3/4 of the book, but decided to stop for now. It was just too dystopian for me.

And I never read the original Lolita either. Even as a young girl it felt wrong. At the time I didn't have the words to explain why it was wrong and why I didn't want to read it. Lea Ruckpaul has found the words.

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Written by Lydia Conwell :mastodon: on 2025-01-25 at 12:10

@RonjaBiernat Oh I like 1984. I don't know how much of a socialist Orwell trully was (I suspect he was a fraud) but it's a decent book about an authoritarian state.

Julia doesn't feature a lot and there isn't much to her, so I think a novel from her perspective has the potential to be very creative and add more to the world.

I remember the part where Winston reads a banned book dragged on a bit. Very dull, that part.

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Written by Lydia Conwell :mastodon: on 2025-01-25 at 12:13

@RonjaBiernat As for Lolita. I'm always interested in novels that are daring and discuss dark things. But I just have no interest in reading about a child groomer.

I mean, the book could be very good, but the subject matter isn't appealing to me.

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Written by Raasclart! inpc on 2025-01-25 at 07:52

@RonjaBiernat @lesekreis @boeken @bookstodon I’m waiting on 101 Dalmatians from Cruella DeVille’s perspective.

Can all books be done like this now? I guess you could just type in an LLM…

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Written by Reading Recluse on 2025-01-25 at 08:42

@RonjaBiernat I hope there'll be a translation of Bye Bye Lolita someday.

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Written by Ronja on 2025-01-25 at 09:00

@reading_recluse I hope so too. Maybe there is a translation out there and I just haven't been able to find it.

To the book community:

Does anyone in the book community know of a translation of "Bye Bye Lolita" by German author Lea Ruckpaul?

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Written by Sonja Schulte on 2025-01-25 at 08:44

@RonjaBiernat Heel interessant! En cool ze als paar te lezen.

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Written by Ronja on 2025-01-25 at 08:54

@SonjaS ...ook best heftig. De perspectiefwissel werd me trouwens pas echt bewust toen de boeken naast elkaar in mijn boekenkast stonden.

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Written by Scottrossi on 2025-01-25 at 17:22

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julia was sooo good but a hard read!

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Written by Kim Possible on 2025-01-25 at 17:30

@RonjaBiernat @lesekreis @boeken @bookstodon I hope there is a whole genre forming of retellings from the perspective of different characters within the original stories. Julia is a great example. So is James, by Percival Everett, a retelling of Huck Finn from the perspective of Jim. Also, Clytemnestra, by Costanza Casati, is a retelling of The Trojan War through the eyes of Clytemnestra, instead of centering Agamemnon.

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Written by Ronja on 2025-01-25 at 17:36

@kimlockhartga @lesekreis @boeken @bookstodon Oh wow, thanks for sharing. I was hoping it would be a new genre, but looking at your list it is already a new one :)

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Written by Andrea Kamphuis on 2025-01-25 at 17:42

@RonjaBiernat @kimlockhartga Also Kamel Daoud, The Meursault Investigation (other perspective on Camus' The Stranger). @lesekreis @boeken @bookstodon

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Written by Kim Possible on 2025-01-26 at 01:35

@ak_text @RonjaBiernat @lesekreis @boeken @bookstodon ooooh nice! I never thought about a retelling of The Stranger.

I should add that there are also retellings that are close to the perspective of the original, but which add more inclusivity, such as THE CHOSEN AND THE BEAUTIFUL, a Queer Asian Feminist Gatsby retelling, or THE KING OF INFINITE SPACE, a very loose modern-day Hamlet by Lyndsay Faye.

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Written by Mike on 2025-01-25 at 17:38

@kimlockhartga I really liked James, and Wide Sargasso Sea, and Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead. James made me think of all the code switching that's often necessary for survival.

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Written by Kim Possible on 2025-01-26 at 01:37

@sunumbral YES. You are such an amazing reader. ❤️❤️❤️

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Written by Mike on 2025-01-26 at 01:39

@kimlockhartga So many books I'll never get to, that was my midlife crisis decades ago, looking at the shelves in a bookstore, but it passed.

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Written by Kim Possible on 2025-01-26 at 01:42

@sunumbral at some point, we realize that there are millions of books in circulation and we have to make peace with that realization.

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Written by RanaldClouston on 2025-01-26 at 06:43

@sunumbral @kimlockhartga @bookstodon I didn't love it, but Will Eisner's Fagin the Jew is a retelling / dismantling of Oliver Twist.

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Written by Negative12DollarBill on 2025-01-26 at 07:00

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Don't forget “The Wind Done Gone”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wind_Done_Gone

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Written by Kim Possible on 2025-01-26 at 17:52

@negative12dollarbill @RonjaBiernat @lesekreis @boeken @bookstodon I didn't know about this one, though I like Alice Randall very much. Thanks for suggesting it!

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Written by Kim Possible on 2025-01-26 at 17:41

@RonjaBiernat @lesekreis @boeken @bookstodon @ak_text @RanaldClouston @sunumbral @negative12dollarbill yay!

I actually keep a running list of retellings, which I lump in with reimaginings, because they are so close.

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Written by Mike on 2025-01-26 at 18:25

@kimlockhartga @RonjaBiernat @lesekreis @boeken @bookstodon @ak_text @RanaldClouston @negative12dollarbill That's a good idea.

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