These tweets are 18 days apart.
I think we may be moving past the Fuck Around/Find Out phase of Covid.
We're more into the "Hold my Beer" phase of Covid.
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@subjacentish I used to follow Michael Mina on Twitter. He seems to have lost it
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@harold @maleve Yeah he lost it ~ end of 2021 as I recall.
When they all got their marching orders on Omicron.
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Gawd. He was one of the first that made any sense of this pandemic. I just keep on masking and staying away from groups of people indoors
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Several people lost it. Zeynep Tufekci is another one. Or Health Nerd.
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@subjacentish 😔
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And I’m sure the oral steroids will fix that right up with no further symptoms or repercussions. /s
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@subjacentish@zeroes.ca what does 'to shut down info' mean?
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@smitten @subjacentish he seems to be expressing concern that after years of gaslighting, minimizing, and manipulating metrics under Biden, Trump's communications ban has resulted in shutting down the flow of such information to like the 17 people on Mastodon (and maybe X) who were paying attention to it.
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@subjacentish "He's better now (thank you oral steroids)"
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"hes better now" - I'm sorry what? At this point with a non/preverbal child how would there be any inkling of whether the child is going to suffer post-COVID problems? I very much hope the infant is well in every regard, but see: "Figure 10. Multisystemic inflammatory syndrome in an 8-month-old male infant who presented 4 weeks after COVID-19, with 6 days of fever, gastrointestinal symptoms, a rash, and blood test results showing increased inflammatory markers. Axial (A) and coronal oblique (B) cardiac MR angiograms show coronary aneurysms in the mid left anterior descending artery (arrow in A) and the mid right coronary artery (arrow in B)." https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/10.1148/rg.230044
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@datum My daughter went on oral steroids and ventolin & some other inhaler in ER in 2015 & 2016 for pneumonia. We were pretty close to losing her.
@ the time the Doctors were like LET US NEVER DO THIS AGAIN YOUR DAUGHTER HAS REACTIVE AIRWAYS SYNDROME AND HERE IS A PERMANENT REFILL FOR THE STEROIDS JUST IN CASE.
2025: Everybody's like YAY the kid is on steroids! Yay!
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@subjacentish even reading your first paragraph got my limbic system spinning
I'm so glad your child pulled through, and so sorry your fam had to suffer that period of not knowing
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@subjacentish
uh….
🤭🤷🏻♀️
Laura Miers screenshot it so had to go look… & the comments omg🤦🏻♀️
health fascism isn’t going to work for this particular situation
all the Celtic sea salt & cayenne pepper will not work but sure, give it the good old college try🙃🙄
“survival bias” means everything will be back to normal, until it’s “randomly” “suddenly” “inexplicably” not
they do them🤷🏻♀️
🍺🍻🍺🍻🍺🍻🍺🍻🍺😇
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@Lorrrraaaaine @subjacentish High blood pressure and they can't figure it out? Don't they know what activating the ACE-2 receptor does??
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just 1 more infection will get you💎health!
actually didn’t know activating ACE2 did that, but you don’t need to be all that smart to recognize patterns
it was summer 2022 when a 30 year old cashier told me she had a HBP event at work & was taking Rx… forget the numbers but it was 260/170 or like
myself at 30 was the worst peak of unhealthy but def didn’t need Rx altho my BP was most likely elevated
normalization is the issue & charlatans rise in this environment
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@Lorrrraaaaine @croissant @subjacentish high blood pressure, arrhythmia, and POTS are all pretty common after-effects of [redacted virus name]. I've noticed the right-wingers (and some far-left individualists) tend to blame it all on the vaccines. There was a narrative of "vaccine shedding" that was taking shape in 2023, hopefully that's no longer a thing but who knows anymore 🤷🏻♂️
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@RebelGeek99 @Lorrrraaaaine @croissant Yeah I remember that narrative - I'm not sure how common it is now!
I do hear a lot of mainstreamed "vaccine hesitancy" now. From sources you'd think it wouldn't come from.
The problem with not having criteria for why you believe something is that your model starts sliding around hard w/o you noticing it... We call this your "epistemic model" in linguistics...
I think that's happening to a lot of people. They intentionally destroyed their belief model in 2021 in order to "Return to Normal" and now they have no model.
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for myself personally, will only take #Novavax .. so can sympathize a bit w/the anti-vax people?
vaccine shedding is the dumbest thing & altho am no fan of #mRNA think for most people blaming it is ridiculous however will concede it’s possible (likely extremely rare) to have had very negative after effects… will gander most people are having issues from chronic repeat infections
so tbh find myself in an usual place too…………
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@Lorrrraaaaine @subjacentish @croissant I wish vaccine shedding was real... I don't have health insurance at the moment, would love it if someone could shed some Novavax on me, otherwise it's like $195 at the pharmacy, if you can find it.
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@subjacentish @croissant @RebelGeek99
even if one has insurance, some insurance forces to go to Drs office
don’t have insurance either & we ended up going to Walgreens & used GoodRx which helped
haven’t tried looking for booster shot yet & suspect finding it will be harder than last fall
if this is the last Covid shot they release, will def need to get it regardless of expense
this admin is definitely trying to kill as many people as possible; that is very clear
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@Lorrrraaaaine @subjacentish @croissant oh, I hadn't even thought of #GoodRx for vaccination - that's a good idea, I'll check it out. Costco was the only place that reliably carried Novavax in 2023-2024, in my neck of the woods. I much preferred it the last couple of times- my only side effect was a slightly sore arm, none of the woozy grogginess I experienced w the mRNA primary series and booster. Thanks 🙏🏻
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@Lorrrraaaaine @croissant @RebelGeek99 The amount of Americans w/o health insurance always amazes me, but doesn't surprise me.
I didn't have health insurance when I lived back home either.
I don't think I knew many people who did.💀
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How many also think that you do not need respiratory protection?
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@ABScientist @Lorrrraaaaine @croissant @RebelGeek99 I would say all of them. I don't know a single family member or friend in the US who is taking any precautions.
What could go wrong, right?💀
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https://nypost.com/2025/01/27/us-news/eric-adams-mystery-illness-takes-him-off-nyc-stage-as-rumors-swirl-about-new-charges-campaign-seasons-builds/
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/new-york-city/mayor-eric-adams-health-sick-trump/6122853/
🤔what possibly could go wrong…
my building neighbor was last seen looking not sick & very exuberant & then she was dead just like that at age 65
nobody understands the delay
also people are clearly looking very Covid-y symptoms claiming they’ve never had Covid & it’s just a cold🙄 these days in NYC🤷🏻♀️
but yes, those in😷are the stupid ones
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People of working age are now sick for one to two months. It is crazy.
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just saw something about tennis star Sinner being very ill but winning his match but it was in🇮🇹
that being said, the pic of him playing looked… like death
can understand somewhat young people being in denial b/c until i witnessed via my parent, uncle & MIL what exactly happens w/compounding disease, it’s not something really thought about regarding myself
but we are seeing rapid aging in all age cohorts but most aren’t looking for evidence like we are
fear is often caused by the unknown, which is why knowing is all important
looking back on recent history, nobody remembers what life was like pre-antibiotics but they’re about to find out
idk what stubborn gene we all have in common, but based on the % of people in NYC wearing😷 can say it’s extremely rare
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Shall we also no longer talk about climate change?
It looks like you can make problems disappear by no longer talking about them.
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@Lorrrraaaaine @RebelGeek99 @croissant @ABScientist Mystery Illness.😆
1640 England: The King hath come down with an unknown maladie forsooth!
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@subjacentish @Lorrrraaaaine @croissant @ABScientist the Monarch's spirits have been much maligned, as of late 😥 Perhaps a feast in His honor shall help clear some of the ghastly vapors that doth so plague his majesty?
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@subjacentish
had great health insurance & dental fully paid for through work all the years was working but used it minimally to never as never been fond of Drs &🪡💉
was incredibly lucky to have had really phenomenal insurance during a particular time in my life when was a literal magnet for disaster one after the other culminating in worst nightmare scenario on earth possible, so do know what great care looks like; hope to never have to experience it again tho & that last visit guarantee it was extremely costly
it’s kind of my modus operandis… frugal, frugal, frugal, frugal then BAM- something beyond extravagant🙄then back to frugal but hopefully forever 😁😇
my spouse has coverage through work that he pays minimally for, but we assume it’s trash & adding me to it was $7K-ish annually which for something i don’t use usually, an absurd expense & paying out of pocket seemed the obvious choice
health insurance isn’t what it used to be & people are out of their damn minds to gamble w/their health… all the💊💊💊💊in the world, no thank you
whatever is left that is good about the medical field is being destroyed as we speak all due to a variety of external factors
had it right i think all along.. avoid the doctors:) but am understanding of those that don’t have a choice😔
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@Lorrrraaaaine @RebelGeek99 @croissant My plan was always to just declare bankruptcy if I got hit bad.
My aunt tried that and they prevented it. She then didn't have enough money to be covered for her severe diabetes stuff. Ended up shoved in a hallway of a Medicaid hospital. Where she died.
I got a million stories like this. Being poor is greaaaaaat. :holdthepain:
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@Lorrrraaaaine @subjacentish @croissant you kinda nailed it -- which is why I would much rather see a Healthcare for All than a Medicare for All in the US.
Insurance policies are basically a gamble on whether or not a company (private or public) chooses to feel like they want to help pay for medical treatment, as determined by their own rules which they can change on a whim, if it suits them.
Place your bets before they pay, promises promises
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@RebelGeek99 @Lorrrraaaaine @croissant John Ruskin wrote an essay (a long long time ago) about flooding in the Italian Alps. Every few years, the floods would tear through and destroy some farmers' livelihoods.
He asked WHY they didn't get together and build an irrigation system to divert it, so it wouldn't happen anymore.
The answer was: Everybody was hoping it would hit SOME OTHER farm because then the survivor farms would see higher prices for their crops.
No support for the Commons because everybody believed it would hit someone else instead and that they'd personally profit.
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reading that gave me the same horror of reading The Lottery in class during 3rd or 4th grade where the “winner” gets stoned… was in a Christian elementary for those 2 years same place as the Baptist church we attended & hmm; WTF🤦🏻♀️
you reap what you sow as they say🤷🏻♀️
JFC wtf is wrong with people😱
it seems we have a LOT of gamblers in our society
reminds me story of psych professor offering everyone A on final exam IF everyone could agree & of course there were a few who did not ruining it for everyone
these people were given choices of why & the reason picked was they didn’t want other people getting the same grade not because they thought they could do better than a 95% or that they didn’t deserve it
this Pandemic has taught me most people are a**holes from down to up, at every level & cannot believe the number of decades it took for me to realize this
people are something else🙄💔
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@Lorrrraaaaine @croissant @RebelGeek99 The Lottery? I didn't know that story - will have to dig it up now!
There's a famous German story called, um, googling for English The Visit (Der Besuch der alten Dame) that has a similar theme in a way. More darkly Capitalist, tho. But a similar concept.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Visit_(play)
The modern selfishness is directly related to the modern loneliness.
Hecato: Si vis amari, ama.
If you want to be loved, love.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lottery
cannot believe was forced to read this in class in 3rd or 4th grade😱
Christian schools in the 1980’s🤦🏻♀️
it really traumatized me😂
apparently
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The Visit is pretty dark too but have had nearly 40 years to cogitate The Lottery so it’s going to take me a minute to absorb😂
modern loneliness, reasons are many but out shift to purely conspicuous consumption coupled w/mass social media usage has accelerated it to an untenable degree
then there’s wage disparity, insane increase in food cost & we’ve re-wound to Medieval peasants/serfs
recall 1980’s-early 90’s being in a recession but it was possible to have a pretty good life & food until recently was pretty cheap
crazy how it got so bad so fast
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@Lorrrraaaaine @croissant @RebelGeek99 I hear a lot about how great the 80s and 90s were comparatively, but they were definitely NOT great for me or my "kind." From where I'm sitting, most of it looked like ad copy.
What WAS better was people. People were better back then. Most of us hung together because we definitely would've hung seperately. 😆
Today they don't care about literally anybody but themselves. Completely consumed w/ their own private echo chamber construction on whatever cult-media platform they like best. (This goes for GenX, too btw. They're just as bad now as everybody else)
There is literally nothing more expensive than being alone. It's the most expensive thing anyone will ever buy.💀
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@subjacentish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rocking-Horse_Winner
my gf & i were talking about The Lottery & Shirley Jackson when she brought up The Rocking Horse Winner
another one to add to the list😆
she had to read it in 5th grade; must have been California curriculum going back to early 1970’s
80’s & 90’s were always problematic socially, but living expenses were more affordable
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@Lorrrraaaaine @croissant @RebelGeek99 Yeah I like that story! In a similar vein in a way to Roald Dahl's The Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar.🥳
I enjoyed how, in that one, once he finally gained the enlightenment he needed to cheat @ gambling -- he didn't feel like gambling any more.😆
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@Lorrrraaaaine Yeah the reason I have never been really worried about this Minimizer position holding in the long term is because it can't.
This disease is too bad. They may deny it until their brain pops, but eventually reality sets in.
Even if the reality is "We are fucked."
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@Lorrrraaaaine @subjacentish couldn't have happened to a turdier cat. Thoughts and pre-authorizations 🙏🏻
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Kids also suffer from the very poor decisions and shortcomings of their own parents. Makes me think that the lucky the ones who survived to the next generation are passing at least two hurdles: any challenges they may face from disease and any of the idiocy of their parents.
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@GhostOnTheHalfShell Yeah don't I know it. :holdthepain:
I have some nieces & nephews whose parents opened up an attic crawlspace and put their bunk beds literally ON TOP of 100yo vermiculite. No ventilation. 4 kids in there.
I'm like WTF BRO WTF
They're like "Asbestos is fake"
They also do not use seatbelts.
Those kids are really rollin' the russian roulette chamber and being forced to pull that trigger, again and again.
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Oh god.
Many years ago, I participated in a civil jury case. It was a case brought against many corporations that included asbestos in their products..
The plaintiff was a man dying of lung cancer specific to inhaling asbestos for many years. He had been a pipe fitter and been exposed to asbestos in the workplace for many years, but that was not the totality of it because during his lifetime, mini consumer products from brake pads to flooring also included it.
🧵
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The expert testimony coupled with the details of what he was going through in his last days was unforgettable. It's one of the most horrible ways to die that I could imagine.
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@subjacentish @GhostOnTheHalfShell I feel sorry for children that have no choice but to live in a #BasketOfDeplorables.
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@ChemicalEyeGuy @GhostOnTheHalfShell I'd say these days it's deplorables all the way down. :holdthepain:
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