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Toot

Written by Matt Campbell on 2025-01-21 at 14:24

I wonder how bad surveillance and control of US residential Internet connections will get in the new administration. Thankfully we now have HTTPS damn near everywhere, but I suppose if they went full totalitarian, they could get ISPs to require us all to use state-supplied root certs so they can decrypt our traffic. And they could still get clues from DNS and SNI.

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Written by Matt Campbell on 2025-01-21 at 14:28

I guess it's way easier to recruit snitches among our followers and fediverse instance admins. So do we have to shut up on here?

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Written by Matt Campbell on 2025-01-21 at 14:29

I know, I know, don't obey in advance. And I suppose I'm relatively safe (a cisgender white male). But we won't be able to do any good if we unnecessarily get ourselves in trouble.

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Written by Matt Campbell on 2025-01-21 at 16:39

Or to ask a slightly different question: I know that the likes of the NSA can watch practically anybody that they want to watch individually, but, on the public web outside of the big tech platforms, how much power do they actually have to watch everybody, now and in the near future?

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Written by Xerz 💗 on 2025-01-21 at 14:25

@matt have you heard about our dark lord and devastator DPI

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Written by Matt Campbell on 2025-01-21 at 14:27

@xerz Deep packet inspection? Sure. That's the prerequisite for the nightmare scenarios I mentioned, but not sufficient for the worst case (decrypting HTTPS traffic) AFAIK.

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Written by Krzysztof Sakrejda on 2025-01-21 at 15:51

@matt well, fascism in Poland fell apart in part because almost everyone got themselves in trouble all at once so I feel like it's primarily a question of when

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Written by Sean Randall on 2025-01-21 at 14:31

@matt I'm a comparatively small fish on the fediverse, but if I do fall out with my instance, I think #GoToSocial is mature enough to host what I want to do.

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Written by Andrew Hodgson on 2025-01-21 at 16:48

@cachondo @matt I'm doing my own thing because I didn't want the hastle of identifying the best home at the time then perhaps moving if required. Even then though how much of this is out of our control? I could fall out with the VPS provider or my broadband/mobile connection could be removed if I wasn't complying. I've often wondered how easy it would be to set up a state sponsered SSL intercepting proxy especially given the relatively few OS developers out there.

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Written by redstrate on 2025-01-21 at 14:43

@matt the fediverse is so large it would be an excruciating amount of effort on the part of bad guys. (unless they only focus on mastodon.online/.social i guess)

sure it could be possible but it should be harder compared to something like X/BS with a singular corporation who owns the network

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Written by Adam MacLeod on 2025-01-21 at 14:52

@matt If you or anyone is feeling pressured or silenced on you're Mastodon instance, I run https://someplace.social in Canada, with all infrastructure completely outside the U.s. I only moderate hate and harm against people. Reports against speech for/against companies and governments go entirely ignored, unless for instance, a company can legitimately demonstrate harm against them. Since Canada has yet to crack down on descent against its government, and I haven't heard of U.S extraditions for speech against their government, you aught to be safe on someplace.social.

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Written by Matt Campbell on 2025-01-21 at 14:55

@adam No pressure or silencing on my instance, I'm just thinking ahead based on the (mostly fictional and hypothetical) dystopian scenarios I'm aware of.

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Written by Adam MacLeod on 2025-01-21 at 14:56

@matt Ah ok, Agreed that these are definitely legitimate future concerns given the state of things, and the speed and depth at which they are changing.

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Written by amd on 2025-01-21 at 16:22

@matt this is not and has never been a secure communications platform.

If you need to talk about stuff that you don’t want state powers to see, there are a lot of steps you’d need to take beyond don’t talk on fedi

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Written by Matt Campbell on 2025-01-21 at 16:31

@amd Sure, that has always been true, at least in theory. But I wonder is, is talking critically or even just showing concern about what the new administration is doing, on the fediverse or on the public web outside of the big tech platforms, enough to get one targeted as an enemy, or will it be soon?

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Written by Hope on 2025-01-21 at 17:07

@matt Are you aware of upstream? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstream_collection

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