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Written by Real cobalt on 2025-01-18 at 14:14

Oh yes, an oldie but goodie. “Federatable” not same as “federated”: by @pluralistic

https://pluralistic.net/2023/08/06/fool-me-twice-we-dont-get-fooled-again/

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Written by Justin ⏚ on 2025-01-18 at 14:20

@cobalt123 @pluralistic What's the sound of one instance federating?

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Written by mimiimim on 2025-01-18 at 15:04

@cobalt123 @pluralistic thanks for sharing this post! I'm with you in the "fool me twice" camp. I stopped using/trusting Meta & X when I realized I am not the user, I am the product.

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Written by TheNovemberFella ✊🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦☸️🛰️🚀 on 2025-01-18 at 21:22

@mimiimim @cobalt123 @pluralistic 👍💯👍

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Written by bayport.moto on 2025-01-18 at 16:12

@cobalt123

"I used to be way more interested in how things worked. Now I’m interested in how they fail." by @pluralistic

https://pluralistic.net/2023/08/06/fool-me-twice-we-dont-get-fooled-again/

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Written by fedipete on 2025-01-18 at 22:55

@bayport_moto @cobalt123 @pluralistic

"Enshittification isn’t merely the result of greed or foolishness — it is the inevitable consequence of a captive userbase."

This is the key.

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Written by utopiArte on 2025-01-19 at 00:27

@pluralistic @bayport_moto @cobalt123 @fedipete

It could be interesting to look out for examples where enshittification didn't occur and see what they trully have in common.

I guess debian is an example, the bitcoin code, the VW beetle or the Land Rover Defender.

Rules like "if it isn't broken don't fix it" and "KISS" come to mind.

Look's to me that most of enshittification occurs out of the need to justify the employment, the need of the ego of newbees to reinvent the wheel, and "just a little bit more".

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Written by fedipete on 2025-01-21 at 18:53

@utopiarte

@cobalt123

@bayport_moto

@pluralistic explains captive user base much better than I could in his latest craphound post/podcast: https://craphound.com/overclocked/2025/01/20/enshittification-isnt-caused-by-venture-capital/

Also recommended reading The Internet Con: https://craphound.com/shop/

Sorry it took me awhile to respond 🙂

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Written by Tertle950 - Scrolling WMs da best on 2025-01-18 at 18:35

@cobalt123@beige.party @pluralistic@mamot.fr waiting for loops.video to be a real fediverse app :)

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Written by irelephant@calckey.world on 2025-01-18 at 19:07

@tertle950@kitty.social @cobalt123@beige.party @pluralistic@mamot.fr @dansup@loops.video

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Written by Tertle950 - Scrolling WMs da best on 2025-01-18 at 19:08

@irelephant@calckey.world @cobalt123@beige.party @pluralistic@mamot.fr @dansup@loops.video Oh I can see Loops videos from here holy crap

LOOPS FEDERATION IS REAL! That didn't take long

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Written by Worik on 2025-01-18 at 20:10

@pluralistic

Why is your name attached to Free Our Feeds"?

This looks like a scam to me.

No structure or governance as Free Our Feeds pinky promise that they have "9 custodians", unnamed, to manage donations. They will have the foundation set up by "the end of 2025". But send money now.

And all the while activity pub exists and does what they want my money to do. What the actual fuck?

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Written by Cory Doctorow on 2025-01-18 at 22:03

@worik Did you look at my blog to see if I wrote a long article explaining this before messaging me about it? Because I did.

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Written by Worik on 2025-01-19 at 00:38

@pluralistic yes I did

Did you answer my question why your name is attached to an organization which has no existence trying to raise millions

Looks very much like a scam, but for the people endorsing it

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Written by utopiArte on 2025-01-21 at 20:09

@cobalt123 thx for the links and response @fedipete!

I read and commented on @pluralistic's latest take already. Truly sorry to tell you, but Cory and I defer in the evaluation about the main reasons why people are captive, (actually they only feel that they are captivated) and how to properly react.

So, as I got this for now, "captive userbase" is people that went into a room and are knocking on it's wide open door sobering that they have no other choice than being violated day and night inside that open door prison they feel captivated in.

Shall they live happily ever after in their self inflicted imagined algorithmic prison.

¡peace! btw

I definitely had preferred a simple answer in your own words, I know how to google and search wikipedia, there are lot's of reasons to ask people directly, one without any doubt is:

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