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Written by Wendy Palmer on 2025-01-13 at 01:55

This whole thing about a company needing more “masculine energy” reminds me of those old research stats about how men assume women are talking too much, ie more than 50%, during a conversation when the actual percentage is ridiculously low.

Or judging that there’s too many women in a movie’s crowd scene once it’s about 25-30% women.

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Written by Ganga on 2025-01-13 at 03:38

@wendypalmer Totally agree. I worked in (male dominated) IT industries for many years, and it would take me all day to list the aweful and inappropriate activities by males during that time - and most of them against women. "Balance" is an interesting word for Zuckerberg to choose when males dominate most industries 😬

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Written by marilyn on 2025-01-13 at 05:01

@LifeTimeCooking @wendypalmer

Is this so-called masculine energy the sole prerogative of men?

And what happens if a woman exhibits some of that highly desirable "masculine energy"? Would she be scolded for her poor interpersonal skills? Called overly aggressive or intimidating? Punished for not getting prior approval?

I could continue in this vein for a while, but won't

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Written by Wendy Palmer on 2025-01-13 at 11:46

@marilyn @LifeTimeCooking no, of course not, any women who survives the purge will of course be allowed to exhibit masculine energy, as long as they have time in between fetching the coffees and being referred to as an object

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Written by Wendy Palmer on 2025-01-13 at 11:44

@LifeTimeCooking god, I was in health and education, “female” fields, and it was bad enough, IT sounds awful, frankly, I admire any women who makes it there

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Written by Kristin (vis.social Admin) on 2025-01-13 at 04:51

@wendypalmer Or the fact that the Tesla screen representation of any pedestrian as Male, and only Male?

Ugh!

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Written by Kristin (vis.social Admin) on 2025-01-13 at 04:53

@wendypalmer A few months ago, I had to take a Lyft, and sadly the car was a Tesla.

Here in San Francisco there are a lot of pedestrians everywhere.

I was stunned that the driver's screen-thing showed every pedestrian as a generic man. Even when almost all of the pedestrians were women.

And of course, all the same height and weight.

Ugh!

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Written by Wendy Palmer on 2025-01-13 at 11:48

@kristinHenry that’s dreadful. That smacks of using average-male crash test dummies for car safety recommendations and then being surprised when seatbelts don’t work as well for women than for men…

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Written by Jeff Grigg on 2025-01-13 at 13:42

@kristinHenry @wendypalmer

I observed the Tesla screen while taking an Uber across Los Angeles to the airport. Judging by how little it could "see," I had to conclude that no human with such poor "eyesight" would ever be allowed to drive a car.

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Written by astroPug on 2025-01-13 at 06:36

@wendypalmer

Agreed 100%. And I can’t help it, I have to delve into this BS a bit more:

Zuck is being nonsensical.

I read an excerpt from that Rogan podcast. When Zuck threw out those words, he purposely chose vague and not really defined terms. I bet if we asked around what “masculine energy” or “feminine energy” is supposed to be, we’d find that a whole lot of people associate a bunch of different things for each term.

So he was crafty. He knows a certain right-leaning crowd will read masculine energy as things they associate with it, and he nudges them a bit by mentioning he does BJJ in that same paragraph.

But he doesn’t want non-maga to be mad (too late, we are, lol) so he mentioned his daughters, and how he wants the workplace to be inviting for women, etc.

Either way, his entire framing is nonsensical because he assumes that 1. those “energies” are a thing, and that

2. he knows what they are

3. that he can “measure” them and

4. that it is possible to have to much of one of them to achieve some nebulous goal that I must assume is somehow tied to success (but I don’t know, and he doesn’t say).

All I can say is that Donald sure makes the tech ceos dance for their supper.

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Written by Wendy Palmer on 2025-01-13 at 11:48

@astroPug he surely does…

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Written by Rochelle on 2025-01-13 at 07:38

@wendypalmer

Dale Spender, in 1979, iirc.

Yes, good call. Honestly why does it feel like we’ve suddenly regressed to the 1950s? It’s quite upsetting, but maybe that’s just me. I’m exhausted, so everything feels exhausting.

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Written by Wendy Palmer on 2025-01-13 at 11:49

@heyrochelle thank you, and also — nineteen fucking seventy nine? That’s barely older than me. Exhausting is the word.

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Written by Cassandrich on 2025-01-13 at 12:30

@wendypalmer 🤏 🍆 ⚡

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Written by Wendy Palmer on 2025-01-13 at 13:25

@dalias 😂

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Written by Nick Radcliffe on 2025-01-13 at 21:40

@wendypalmer I don’t really know what “masculine energy” is (maybe people misunderstand the m in mc^2 or ½mv^2) but I have never known a company that seemed too female.

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Written by LillyLyle/Count Melancholia on 2025-01-13 at 22:09

@wendypalmer It's been proven time and time again that as soon as women hit 30% at a work place, the male employees believe there is a majority of women.

I had a colleague once in Sweden of all places, who told me he thought it was wrong that women got the same pay as men, because women just "fritter away their money on imported cosmetics, and that's bad for the economy". So I asked him "You know that Harley-Davidson you have? Is that a Swedish brand?"

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Written by Wendy Palmer on 2025-01-14 at 00:25

@LillyHerself thanks, I hadn’t heard that stat (colour me unsurprised).

Ah yes, women’s interests always seem to be “frittering” of time/energy/money, and yet men’s are somehow of unimpeachable value.

Marvellous logic on his part: women should not be allowed discretionary spending, let’s implement a national policy of financial coercive control.

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