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Written by Grutjes on 2024-12-30 at 12:39

"Daily reminder that the underlying purpose of AI is to allow wealth to access skill while removing from the skilled the ability to access wealth."

(Unpaid Cat Maid)

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Written by ManyRoads- one ring to bind on 2024-12-30 at 14:47

@Grutjes I believe AI is geared to selling more adverts... Google, M$ and others love that money for nothing gig.

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Written by Yo Mama on 2024-12-30 at 22:39

@Grutjes WORD √

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Written by Zohan 🇨🇦🔐 on 2024-12-30 at 23:25

@Grutjes

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Written by Rue Mohr on 2024-12-31 at 02:13

@Grutjes The job of those being denied wealth is to behead those hoarding it.

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Written by Gianluca on 2024-12-31 at 03:45

@Grutjes I don’t agree. Didn‘t people say that on every big invention? This is just the ages old „people will be unemployed“ argument which turned out false in history so many times.

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Written by ErnstGucker on 2024-12-31 at 08:44

@Grutjes @gianluca

Is there some room left behind the rock you seem to live? I would like to move there too.

Look at the (even) more capitalistic societies than Germany and you might be able to understand the struggles and fears of the others.

The devaluation of some peoples work (e.g. artists, poets, some coders) has already begun.

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Written by Süßgebäck on 2024-12-31 at 18:19

@gianluca @Grutjes Yes and more often than not they where right. the extreme disparities in wealth distribution today comes, in a big part, from the constant shifting of production factors from labor to capital.

much more important is what is new about ai. it does not only do the work that used to be done by a laborer (like a mechanical loom) but it is also sucking up every bit of work that was done so far, ripping it up and putting it together new. a generative ai does not create. it only steals.

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Written by Grutjes on 2024-12-31 at 19:23

@marmeladenbaguette

Exactly.

@gianluca

The work of people I know, well known illustrators like Iris Compiet, has already been stolen by AI. Companies are now hiring good illustrators for a fraction of the cost to correct AI mistakes in stead of creating original work.

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Written by Juho Mäntysalo on 2024-12-31 at 07:47

@Grutjes

There are examples where industrialisation has led to work vanishing, or turning from high-skilled to low-skilled (painters used to know how to mix paints). Generally this has been a good thing: the less people need to be educated on one thing, the more they can be educated in something else.

What I'm concerned that about is that AI doesn't lead to this sort of permanent uplift. As it taints the springs it draws from, it can't move with culture. There's no end-game.

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Written by Michał Narecki on 2024-12-31 at 09:07

@Grutjes it certainly feels this way 😞

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Written by Steven Sandoval on 2024-12-31 at 09:54

@Grutjes I'm hoping someone in China has plugged #AI into their economics data to try a centrally planned economy again, this time with proper amounts of computational power to rival that of capitalist markets since... well, capitalist markets have so far utterly failed to price in possibly obvious future apocalyptic issues like global warming and the ice caps melting. #capitalism #socialism

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Written by Grutjes on 2025-01-02 at 15:01

@baltakatei

You seem to be mistaken about the nature of China today. It's state capitalism, that is capitalism without the democratic / liberal bit. It's a capitalist dictatorship, not a planned economy, and certainly not socialist.

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Written by Grutjes on 2025-01-02 at 15:07

@baltakatei

Also, they already have plugged AI in, and it's pure horror.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System

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Written by Edge on 2024-12-31 at 15:54

@Grutjes

I keep coming back to the question:

"Who do they think will be their ultimate customers, if they've fired everone?"

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Written by J.L.1285 on 2025-01-01 at 13:35

@czarbucks Reminds me of the old anecdote that supposedly has Henry Ford and the Union discussing something similar:

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Written by Grutjes on 2025-01-02 at 15:14

@CAWguy @czarbucks

I'm afraid the Musk-style cannibalist capitalism doesn't care about that at all. It doesn't want to preserve the system of exploitation for future capitalist leeches, they just want to suck everything dry, now.

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Written by Gabriel N on 2024-12-31 at 17:06

@Grutjes and reducing the wages of those that still have a job.

In Chile, the salary of a UX designer has been lowered by 33% or more.

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Written by Bastian Hodapp on 2024-12-31 at 20:41

@Grutjes cyberpunk irl

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Written by Grutjes on 2025-01-01 at 05:19

@bassadin

Punk is about DIY, do it yourself.

AI is the opposite of that.

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