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Written by Hadley T. Canine (fox) on 2024-12-17 at 06:28

"We should ban kids from the Internet until they turn 18"

I had a hard enough time finding people like me even with the Internet. Finding anyone locally who was anything like me was impossible.

The idea that people want to actively cut people away from their support networks, to isolate them from others, and banish the youth to a primitive 20th century lifestyle? That's fucking bullshit.

What next, do you also propose that kids only be allowed to speak to their parents, no one else?

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Written by Koopa512 :lesbianthoughts: :cat_is_blob_and_trans: :v_aroace: on 2024-12-17 at 08:01

@hadley I hate when governments do that (usually it's not 18 but 16, but point still stands) because if they ACTUALLY cared about protecting children they'd overhaul the schooling system (or at least make it so bullies are actually punished and victims aren't)

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Written by Hadley T. Canine (fox) on 2024-12-17 at 08:04

@koopa512 Yeah... so much of "protecting the kids" seem to be boil down to just controlling them, and making sure they only do the things you think they should be doing, and treating them like property.

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Written by Koopa512 :lesbianthoughts: :cat_is_blob_and_trans: :v_aroace: on 2024-12-17 at 08:14

@hadley aren't schools the place where kids are most likely to face some sort of abuse?

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Written by Hadley T. Canine (fox) on 2024-12-17 at 08:22

@koopa512 Based on my own knowledge and experiences, their own homes are by far the most likely place to be abused.

Found a citation on this, too: https://www.nationalchildrensalliance.org/media-room/national-statistics-on-child-abuse/#:~:text=most%20child%20victims%20are%20abused%20by%20a%20parent

So, every motherfucker arguing that we should isolate children further? Yeah, they don't have a fucking clue what they're talking about.

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Written by mkj on 2024-12-17 at 09:04

@hadley Note that that page seems to lump together "abuse" and "neglect" (the latter of which is said to account for 74% of cases, leaving ~113K cases). I'm NOT saying that either is not bad (it is!) but I honestly doubt school abuse (especially if including bullying) is limited to <100K cases in the US. There should be approximately 30M people of school age in the US; for only about 0.3% of those (a few in a reasonably large school) to be subjected to bullying sounds EXTREMELY low. 🧵

@koopa512

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Written by mkj on 2024-12-17 at 09:04

@hadley @koopa512

And just to be abundantly clear, this is not meant to in any way say that I think isolating children is an answer. If anything, I would argue for the opposite: support networks. This means everything from parents/guardians to friends to school teachers to sports coaches to religious organizations to, yes, strangers on the Internet. Not all people are bad, but the bad ones often have an outsized impact. That's not solved by cutting off access to everyone.

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Written by オチュー🕊🇵🇸 on 2024-12-17 at 11:45

@mkj @hadley @koopa512 Isolated people are the most vulnerable. Because a network of diverse relationship is a safety net. If you only have the family, of course things can turn to shit. If you only have the school -lone separtaed microcosm-, the same. If you've only got that one group of friend, guess what.

Must meet lot of people you can tell your life to. Even if some are toxic, it's only a big deal if you only have them to turn to.

They don't even need to be the BEST FRIEND. Just amical

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Written by Azarilhⓥ on 2024-12-17 at 13:06

@mkj @hadley @koopa512 Neglect is a kind of abuse.

I've been neglected myself, which brought me several negative experiences, from physical health to relationships.

I get what you mean but neglect shouldn't be put on the side.

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