Ancestors

Written by BlueMonday1984@awful.systems on 2024-12-09 at 00:00

Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 15th December 2024

https://awful.systems/post/3015993

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Written by TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems on 2024-12-09 at 20:57

So it turns out the healthcare assassin has some… boutique… views. (Yeah, I know, shocker.) Things he seems to be into:

How soon until someone finds his LessWrong profile?

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Written by Noodlemaz on 2024-12-10 at 23:09

@TinyTimmyTokyo @BlueMonday1984 lab-gown mest is fine tho. I'd be all over it if it ever works.

But yeah he'd fit right in on LW I'm sure

Edited based on later chat: eh

https://med-mastodon.com/@noodlemaz/113641637798676074

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Toot

Written by sc_griffith@awful.systems on 2024-12-12 at 19:36

one of the best articles I’ve ever read was an inch by inch teardown of the entire concept of mass produced lab grown meat: thecounter.org/lab-grown-cultivated-meat-cost-at-… . it’s never, ever going to work at scale and I’d go so far as to say it’s the food equivalent of all the usual tech grifts we talk about here

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Descendants

Written by Noodlemaz on 2024-12-12 at 20:02

@sc_griffith thanks, that is a cool piece! Indeed having done plenty cell culture myself and seeing those shockingly astronomical meat consumption figures, the solutions seem much clearer to me. I doubt LGM will be a useful reality in my lifetime, maybe far in the future. So, people need to stop eating meat, and eat plants instead.

Many are already doing so! I've mostly stopped with meat myself, just some fish to go.

But we need political will. Change of culture. Sanctions on the US, etc :/

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Written by Noodlemaz on 2024-12-12 at 20:04

@sc_griffith stood out:

"a mature, scaled-up industry could eventually achieve a ratio of only 3-4 calories in for every calorie out, compared to the chicken’s 10 and the steer’s 25. That would still make cultured meat much more inefficient compared to just eating plants themselves... And the cells themselves might still be fed on a diet of commodity grains, the cheapest and most environmentally destructive inputs available. But it would represent a major improvement."

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Written by Noodlemaz on 2024-12-12 at 20:07

@sc_griffith last one (probably) - as I'm now working quite a lot adjacent to philanthropists (and find the whole concept and reality of that deeply morally unpleasant on many levels), v interesting interweaving of that aspect.

And again, comes back to the EA nonsense.

Sigh

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Written by skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de on 2024-12-12 at 20:47

if luigi incident kicks off next miracle tech sv bubble after ai this would be the single dumbest outcome out of this entire situation

so far tpot got exposure and fake manifesto included altmed dogwhistle right in the title

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