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Written by Teri Kanefield on 2024-11-30 at 22:42

Hi, Mastodon Peeps,

I have my blog post ready.

Last month, I talked about a philosophical journey for perspective on today’s politics.

Plato is always a good place to start.

I’ll also talk about TV lawyers and the spirit of liberty because . . . it follows.

An election happened since my last blog post, so I’ll have a bit about that as well. I also included a section on what to expect moving forward.

https://terikanefield.com/chapter-1/

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Written by LionelB on 2024-11-30 at 22:44

@Teri_Kanefield

It is doing the link not found thing.

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Written by LionelB on 2024-11-30 at 22:46

@Teri_Kanefield

Now working :)

Edit: A very enjoyable and worthwhile read. It helps with addressing the source of outrage and that means a little more calm.

It doesn't help so much with the hurt and disappointment.

Though understanding something better does help with resilience.

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Written by Abooda on 2024-12-01 at 02:15

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Hello

How are you

I am Dr abdullah from Palestine gaza

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Written by Zauberlehrling on 2024-11-30 at 23:13

@Teri_Kanefield

"In other words, the lesson to glean is that dogmatism, intellectual arrogance, and black-and-white thinking are likely to lead to injustice."

I have found that the dogmatic are impervious to self-examination. Their answer when their dogma and intellectual arrogance fails is that they are not being applied rigidly enough - so they double down.

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Written by Zauberlehrling on 2024-11-30 at 23:17

@Teri_Kanefield

Karen Stenner’s definition of authoritarian personality:

. . . a universal, mostly heritable predisposition rooted in a closed personality and cognitive inflexibility, which reduce one’s willingness and ability, respectively, to deal with complexity.

"Beware the terrible simplifiers"

--Jacob Burckhardt

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Written by Wizard Bear (💉x8 + 😷) on 2024-11-30 at 23:21

@Teri_Kanefield TY for another excellent and thought-provoking blog entry. I think you have really made very clear what happened in the election early this month. I appreciate all you do.

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Written by Zauberlehrling on 2024-11-30 at 23:29

@Teri_Kanefield

This is why I blame Ted Turner - the 24 hour news cycle must have content and keep viewers engaged all the time!

"The problem with fact-based news that avoids opinions and slant is that there are not enough facts to fill a 24-hour news cycle. There are not enough facts to fill dozens of hours each day of cable programming. For that, you need opinions, speculation, rage, and fear."

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Written by Mary trying to cope on 2024-11-30 at 23:43

@Teri_Kanefield Thank you for your calm explanations. I also pre-ordered your Bill of Rights book!

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Written by Teri Kanefield on 2024-11-30 at 23:46

@mmynatt Thank you! I'm proud of that one.

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Written by MeredithW on 2024-12-01 at 00:43

@Teri_Kanefield I've always had a dislike of philosophy, so congratulations on not only getting me to read it but also find it interesting and worth thinking about (at least the part of it that you're discussing)!

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Written by MeredithW on 2024-12-01 at 01:08

@Teri_Kanefield In addition to the media disruption, there's a problem that's been with us for decades - the insistence on only voting for someone you agree with completely ("purity"). I see this more strongly on the left than the right, and have since Humphrey lost to Nixon when I was a kid. People I know on the right say "s/he's worse, so I'll vote against them", whereas ones on the left say "I refuse to vote for the lesser of 2 evils", thus allowing the greater evil to win.

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Written by MeredithW on 2024-12-01 at 01:30

@Teri_Kanefield Do you (or Socrates) have any ideas how to persuade those who insist on purity? How do we get these purists to understand that the "lesser of two evils" is still better than the greater evil?

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Written by Mark Whybird on 2024-12-01 at 22:00

@meredithw @Teri_Kanefield I read somewhere on Mastodon once that choosing a political leader is less like getting a door-to-door taxi and more like catching a bus: you need to accept that no bus takes you from where you are to the exact right place, and instead catch one that takes you to a place where you can either catch another bus to get you closer still, or walk there under your own steam. I found it a useful analogy, FWIW.

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Written by Teri Kanefield on 2024-12-01 at 22:32

@whybird @meredithw

The purity people "my way or the highway" have always been a problem. They were the problem in 2000. A colleague voted for Nader because she had to 'vote her conscience.'

When people tried to tell her otherwise, she said, "I'm in California so it didn't matter," but still.

"My way or the highway" is authoritarian. It's a refusal to compromise. "Give me everything I want or I will sink the ship."

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Written by MeredithW on 2024-12-01 at 23:08

@Teri_Kanefield @whybird I remember the purity people back in 1968, when Humphrey (who'd been a decent Congressman and by all accounts was a decent person) lost to Nixon largely due to purity people who refused to vote for "the lesser of two evils". I was in 6th grade and even back then I knew it was specious reasoning.

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Written by Teri Kanefield on 2024-12-02 at 00:00

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Or "there is no difference between the parties because neither party gives me what I want."

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Written by LaDonna on 2024-12-01 at 01:27

@Teri_Kanefield Thank you for another calm and excellent blog on what's happened and how to look forward.

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Written by Ande Jacobson on 2024-12-01 at 03:26

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Excellent post, Teri. Your initially being a philosophy major as an undergrad makes sense.

Yes, please continue the journey.

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Written by Roy Adams on 2024-12-01 at 14:26

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Thanks for an informative, reflective post Teri.

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Written by Mark Whybird on 2024-12-01 at 22:02

@Teri_Kanefield Yay Teri - blog post properly published at last!

[#]MakePoliticalNewsBoringAgain ;)

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Written by Stephen Downes on 2024-12-02 at 03:17

@Teri_Kanefield The positive point that Socrates is making is that concepts such as piety and justice exist independently of examples of them, and independently of the people who instantiate them.

Poor Euthyphro never satisfied Socrates's demands for a definition because there's no way to satisfy them. He makes it appear Euthyphro doesn't know what justice is, when Euthyphro, sensitive to the specific instance and context, has actually a finer understanding than Socrates.

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