Yup, I’m calling it.
bsky will prevail where Mastodon failed. The recent migration triggered the critical mass of Chaos Muppet Energy that Masto’s culture works so hard to extinguish
Like a climactic moment in a Zelda game where the accumulation of artifacts and switches pulled channels mystical energy.
I will see you over there!
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What threw it over the top for me was catching wind of a developing news event in real time—the Nazi party at MSG
with the blend of straight facts, analysis and jokes we used to get from Twitter
A range of voices broad enough there to really deliver. How exciting
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update two weeks later:
Yup. Bsky is where it’s at. It feels like Twitter used to feel, the vibes are positive, the voices are diverse, it’s easy to get the kind of content you need
Moreover, the product quality gap compared to Masto is yawning ever wider, with user-made feed algorithms, block lists, and starter packs
Whatever advantages Masto had from its early lead are exhausted, and as it relates to time and attention, I will not be betting on its success
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I do hope you will consider joining bluesky, as not all of my favorites have made the migration yet
If you abandoned it previously, as I did, give it another look. Journalists and scientists in particular are moving over, providing an insightful foundation for discussion and enriching the quality of feeds
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My favorite anecdote on the superiority of its product design culture:
For years Masto has avoided quote posts, with much wailing and gnashing of teeth in a conversation that goes in circles, to the detriment of making things people want
Bsky shipped a thing where you can just detach yourself from any quoting post you feel is acting in bad faith, or otherwise brings you attention you don’t want
Sorry, man, they got the juice
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Again, the juice.
Bsky is the number one free iOS app in the US right now.
Mastodon is the 184th most popular app in the social media chart. Here are some apps that rank ahead of Mastodon on that chart:
Masto’s leadership fucked the dog here.
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Reasonable people can disagree about the growth and funding strategies for a social media platform.
But Mastodon being less popular than a superfluous companion app for a game publisher no one likes is just poor stewardship.
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tired: bluesky will be enshittified by financial incentives
wired: mastodon is already enshittified by poor management
inspired: bsky is adding a million users a day and now tops the Android list as well
User-built algorithms, a chronological timeline, a great blend of safety and product features
Plus a much more diverse slate of conversation topics and contributors
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Bluesky now growing at a rate of 12-13 users per second
So why am I beating this drum?
Mastodon’s failure to capture Twitter’s collapse is instructive as a once-in-a-generation cautionary tale
Product design matters, protocol ideology is not enough, and disliking capitalism is not an exemption from economics
You will read a lot of copium about the fediverse still being viable, but it is now the smaller development target. That has consequences.
https://bcounter.nat.vg
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And I think the short version is this:
A professional team of 20 people, fully funded and paid a proper full-time wage, is an objectively more effective approach to building the future than one grumpy bottleneck guy making $60k a year and a bunch of other people looking on with wishful thinking
Disliking venture capital is NOT ENOUGH. You have to figure out a different model that still can fund enough deep, sustained, collaborative work to build a thing people want
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This is the mastodon energy in a nutshell, yup
“Love this crummy platform or get lost” is exactly how this happened
The final nail in the coffin here will be the culture.
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@danilo It's not clear to me what you're hoping to accomplish with this, anymore
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@jenniferplusplus a eulogy, mostly
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@danilo If there's anything to eulogize, it's a future that didn't happen. Mastodon didn't die. It's here right now, and that dissonance is giving weirdly antagonistic energy.
edit: I don't know why this post is getting attention. But, for the record: Danilo is right. I just think this anger and blame is being directed to the wrong audience. Overwhelmingly, his followers (of which I am one), were not the cause of the problem he identified.
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@jenniferplusplus oh the antagonism is REAL:
I think it’s an enormous fuckup and I openly blame the deeply homogenous, Torvalds-y culture and the project leadership
At core I believed in the premise completely and I loathe the coalition of dipshits who absolutely derailed this into stagnation. It did not have to go this way
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@danilo So, the thing is, not everyone has given up on that promising future. It's fine to leave, but maybe don't smash up the place on the way out, if that future is still something you want.
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@jenniferplusplus what I want is a real-time consensus and news-breaking engine; I have determined that Mastodon will not meet this need, and the goal is best served by making the case to what reach I have to try the other thing, maximizing the chance of that goal being met
If mastodon is really so brittle that 2k audience reach and a sharp tut-tutting can really "smash it up," as you say, I am understating my own case dramatically!
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@danilo @jenniferplusplus it's like they say, "whenever anyone criticizes any aspect of the mastodon-flavored fediverse, they can expect a flood of pushback".
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@dave @danilo Just so there's no ambiguity: I agree with Danilo's analysis and conclusion. He seems to be angry, and I share that anger.
This conversation is me trying to let him know that I think he's directing that anger in a really counterproductive way.
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@jenniferplusplus @dave @danilo assuming it's possible to modify the dynamics that undergird the technical shortfalls and make up the culture, how's it counterproductive to perpetuate a discourse that seeks to create the conditions for change?
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Have you heard the term “preaching to the choir“?
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@mcepl @jenniferplusplus @dave @danilo mastodon's a monolith huh?
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