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Written by Anders Puck Nielsen on 2024-11-16 at 21:01

I am so excited about the migration from X that I made a whole YouTube video about what it takes to run a social media company in a responsible way.

Don't worry, I will be back to covering the normal topics and the war in Ukraine next time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8zfgIgZ4c0

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Written by Dee G Lloyd on 2024-11-16 at 21:33

@anderspuck

My problem IS #SpaceKaren 😆

Otherwise I agree with everything you said in this video.

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Written by Anders Puck Nielsen on 2024-11-16 at 21:54

@DeeGLloyd Hehe, yeah, I don't like him either. But there are many CEOs that I don’t particularly like, and I still use their products.

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Written by David Nice on 2024-11-16 at 22:04

@anderspuck Looks like you miss the point - Musk used Xitter for exactly what he's achieved - shadow leadership of the USA. And I can't get excited about people leaving only now, though for their own personal dignity it's better late than never.

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Written by Anders Puck Nielsen on 2024-11-16 at 22:31

@davidpnice It would have been better sooner, but still I think it’s good if he loses his platform.

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Written by David Nice on 2024-11-17 at 10:03

@anderspuck But now you've got the advertisers crawling back. Good to know which ones to boycott.

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Written by elCelio 🇪🇺 🇺🇦 on 2024-11-17 at 05:04

@davidpnice @anderspuck exactly. Twitter served his purpose.

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Written by Kerry Stevenson on 2024-11-16 at 23:40

@anderspuck Great video, thank you!

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Written by Allan Stromfeldt Christensen on 2024-11-17 at 00:25

@anderspuck Yes, but Bluesky is rather concerning, what with its ties to crypto and indirectly Russia as well (as @davetroy has noted).

https://toad.social/@davetroy/113493454665487197

https://toad.social/@davetroy/113476788536250587

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Written by Allan Stromfeldt Christensen on 2024-11-17 at 00:30

@anderspuck I know you use Ghost, but I'm not sure if you're aware that the Ghost team is currently in the process of integrating the platform with ActivityPub (& effectively Mastodon). It'd surely be nice if open source & decentralised Mastodon could catch on a bit more.

The info page describing Ghost's upcoming integration is no longer live, but here's an archive of the page if you've never seen it:

https://web.archive.org/web/20240510213133/https://activitypub.ghost.org/

And blog/updates on their ongoing work here:

https://activitypub.ghost.org

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Written by Anders Puck Nielsen on 2024-11-17 at 04:49

@stromfeldt I have seen it. It will be interesting to see what they come up with. I probably won’t be using it before it is out of beta, but I like the idea.

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Written by Allan Stromfeldt Christensen on 2024-11-17 at 12:37

@anderspuck Yeah, probably a good idea to wait. I likely won't be using it either way, as I had somebody create a script to connect Ghost (and its membership system) to the open source forum software Discourse. The next thing to be built is an aggregating system, which will aggregate several Ghost-using blogs/newsletters, which will then all share the one Discourse instance for commenting. "Own your software ecosystem" kinda thing.

If you're curious:

https://github.com/vikaspotluri123/discourse-on-ghost

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Written by Osma A on 2024-11-17 at 07:03

@anderspuck

Platforms are only as responsible actors as their leadership - and I say this having spent a decade in the leadership of one (which scored high on moderation, but not on APIs). Can't truly evaluate Twitter without Dorsey, X without Musk, or Threads without Zuckerberg and Mosseri.

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Written by Osma A on 2024-11-17 at 07:04

That's where federation comes into play. A federated platform has multiple leadership and policies. It might be harder to assess, but it also will be more resilient to bias creep (as well as to long term threats).

@anderspuck

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Written by Osma A on 2024-11-17 at 07:09

That's the attribute I am watching wrt Bluesky. It is decentralized, you can run your own PDS, it does have open APIs, it does have 3rd party clients. It even has the capability of multiple moderation policies (3rd party labeling services). It still does not have relays and discovery independent of Bluesky Inc, so they have that master control. But the path has been toward becoming not only decentralized but in fact federated, over time.

@anderspuck

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Written by jonasrygaard on 2024-11-17 at 08:36

@anderspuck than you for taking the effort proposing some meaningful parameters for discussion.

I am courious whether you will do a similar analyses on Meta platforms. I am also courious about your perspective on shadow ban of certain views (as happened during corona ob twitter) this seems to be important for social media especually in times of crisis - personally lost confidence in “Old” twitter at that point.

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Written by kim wulff on 2024-11-17 at 10:39

@anderspuck But I'll never leave mastodon as it is right now, it's so much better than everyone else

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Written by Jakobmhc on 2024-11-17 at 17:31

@anderspuck apropos bots, har du så set den konto her? https://romeosquared.eu/author/anders-puck-nielsen/

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Written by tadcan on 2024-11-17 at 20:14

@anderspuck Before the APIs were closed off for research they were closed off as open source APIs which allowed third party access for alternative platforms to display tweets. For me this walled garden was a precursor to what is currently happening. The worsening of social media is moving people to Whatsapp or Discord groups where moderation is done with smaller social circles and group norms like early forums. I don't take it as a given that Bluesky etc will take over like Twitter before it.

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Written by Anders Puck Nielsen on 2024-11-18 at 17:37

@tadcan No, it's not a given. There are different use cases and some people want conversations in smaller groups. Others want to use it as a microblog for a public audience.

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Written by tadcan on 2024-11-18 at 18:00

@anderspuck For a brief period with FB's rise and the cost associated with sending texts on Dumb phones meant people were generally restricted to the walled garden or public sphere with some accommodation with groups or G+ circles. The Open Source world feared market capture. What interests me is the ratios of people who engage with micro-blogging versus closed groups and how will researchers account for communication that stays behind encryption. Is there a maximum ratio of one to the other?

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