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Written by Dan Luu on 2024-10-28 at 21:07

Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO

https://danluu.com/ballmer/

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Written by Tom Harrington on 2024-10-28 at 21:29

@danluu @heathborders similar energy: Gil Amelio brought Steve Jobs back to Apple, which led to the company’s comeback.

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Written by Heath Borders on 2024-10-28 at 22:26

@atomicbird @danluu I thought Apple essentially forced Amelio out bc of declining stock prices.

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Written by Heath Borders on 2024-10-28 at 22:26

@atomicbird @danluu Also, Ballmer set the table for Nadella with investments while Amelio mainly cut things

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Written by Tom Harrington on 2024-10-28 at 22:30

@heathborders @danluu I’m sure there was pressure but the board didn’t get Jobs back.

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Written by Tom Harrington on 2024-10-28 at 23:22

@heathborders @danluu Also, one of the things Amelio and Ellen Hancock cut was Copland, which was a necessary but difficult move at the time, not least because they hadn't found an alternative yet. They avoided the sunk cost fallacy on a massive scale there.

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Written by Heath Borders on 2024-10-28 at 23:51

@atomicbird @danluu that's definitely fair. Cutting bad stuff is an underrated CEO move

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Written by Fabian Giesen on 2024-10-28 at 21:32

@danluu Small note: I originally said Hamlet, then did a verbal backspace and corrected myself to Macbeth, FWIW. :)

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Written by Leonard Ritter on 2024-10-28 at 22:50

@danluu Genghis Khan was an underrated statesman

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Written by Peter Bhat Harkins on 2024-10-28 at 23:41

@danluu So I admit I’m getting distracted by your offhand example, but I’m a fan and I’d never heard of the Bernhardt talk in your opening. There doesn’t seem to be a recording online, so if you can find one, you can test your idea about obviousness.

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Written by Dan Luu on 2024-10-30 at 07:04

@pushcx I wish I took notes on the talk since, AFAIK, the talk was only given once and there's no released recording of it (cc @jlargentaye, who made a similar comment in another thread).

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Written by Matthew Thomas on 2024-11-01 at 18:39

@danluu

• “not clear there wouldn't be a reason not to go → “not clear there’d be any reason not to go”

• “to things” → “to launch things”

• “when try” → “when they try”

• “group threaten” → “group threatened”

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Written by Dan Luu on 2024-11-04 at 06:54

@mpt Thanks! I fixed the last three things, but I don't think the first one is wrong and I think that changing it changes the strength of the statement so I left that one.

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Written by Matthew Thomas on 2024-11-04 at 07:19

@danluu I’m pretty sure there’s one too many negatives — a simple test is just to change “wouldn’t” to “would”. But up to you of course!

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Written by Dan Luu on 2024-11-04 at 20:17

@mpt Ohhhhhh yeah, I see, I was only looking at two of the negatives :). Thanks for being persistent on this.

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Written by Paul Gear on 2024-11-05 at 22:40

@danluu Somewhere in the rabbit trail of reading this, I ended up at https://x.com/danluu/status/1129519029192757249, where you mentioned a talk by Gary Bernhardt at Strange Loop 2016. I can't find his name in the list at https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcGKfGEEONaDvuLDFFKRfzbsaBuVVXdYa - was it not recorded?

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