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00:00 matey; granted, there is a (really) unfortunate clip of him comparing rape victims to people walking with a rolex through a sketchy part of rio de janeiro
00:01 matey; which is a pretty dumb thing to say
00:03 DaemonFC; I love how Republicans who deny that the 2020 election was legitimate are making the same arguments against "voting machines" that I did after the very real and questionable irregularities in Ohio in 2004. I really do.
00:03 matey; its also possible some people plagiarised some of his book on a pickup forum
00:04 matey; or maybe theyve found their man. it will certainly be interesting if this turns into an old-fashioned 4chan bust.
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00:08 TR News; "There was once a time when Compiz was such a popular compositor but nowadays almost no one uses it so what happened and where did it go." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9ODeNMPwZZo
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00:08 TR Bot; Compiz The Greatest Compositor Nobody Uses - Invidious
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00:09 matey; heres a more hilarious take on it https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XEeY8YaJfJ0
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00:09 TR Bot; Why Russia Hates Bald and Bankrupt, EXPOSED in Ukraine - Invidious
00:09 TR News; "In the past week, I have put in many hours of work preparing for the next evolution of DTOS." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zm6mjX8MCT4
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00:09 TR Bot; DTOS with Qtile? Dwm? Exwm? That's The Plan! - Invidious
00:10 matey; the looking for love in a ukranian village video was hilarious
00:10 TR News; How to install Natron on Pop!_OS 22.04 - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=r-vtEUpuJpA Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
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00:10 TR Bot; How to install Natron on Pop!_OS 22.04 - Invidious
00:10 matey; it started because some woman on a bus Told Him to go there and find a wife
00:10 matey; in search of content, he and his friend from mongolia decided to do just that
00:11 matey; they didnt find anyone, but the whole thing was a joke at their own expense
00:11 matey; even the tie hes wearing is a joke at his own expense
00:11 DaemonFC; During the worst year for auto reliability ever, Americans are throwing $700 in the trash every month on car payments.
00:12 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/2022/07/02/1109105779/monthly-car-payments-record-700
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00:12 TR Bot; Monthly car payments have crossed a record $700. What that means : NPR
00:12 matey; either this guy has never seen british comedy, or, hes doing a better job at deadpan than the two hes complaining about
00:13 matey; this guy starts out calling two two "alleged rapists" and then goes on to suggest that flowers and chocolate wont be enough, they better them plastered
00:13 matey; then he says english women are hideous
00:14 TR News; Videos: DTOS, Compiz, DEEPIN, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166799
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00:14 TR Bot; Videos: DTOS, Compiz, DEEPIN, and More | Tux Machines
00:14 matey; note to english women: dont try to pick up ukranian men, they all think youre ugly (i guess)
00:17 matey; hes right that johnnys a bit weird though
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; Ariadne: tuxmachines has been having some DB issue, not sure if it is related to the file system somehow
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; it's the DB that runs locally on the same machine
00:17 TR News; Porteus 5.0 is released! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166800
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00:17 TR Bot; Porteus 5.0 is released! | Tux Machines
00:19 matey; /me wonders if theyll ever make a filesystem that makes it so you dont need a db
00:19 matey; seems like dbs get fucked up WAY more easily than filesystems. ive seen both happen of course
00:20 matey; but imagine if your db problem could just be fscked
00:20 matey; how nice would that be
00:21 TR News; The Best Desktop Environments of 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166801
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00:21 TR Bot; The Best Desktop Environments of 2022 | Tux Machines
00:23 TR News; RFID and Raspberry PI: RC522 wiring and code with Python https://peppe8o.com/rfid-and-raspberry-pi-rc522-wiring-and-code-with-python/ Source: peppe8o
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00:23 TR Bot; RFID and Raspberry PI: RC522 wiring and code with Python
00:25 TR News; LINMOB.net - Weekly GNU-like Mobile Linux Update (26/2022): Plasma Mobile Gear 22.06, Ubuntu Touch OTA-23 and the MNT Pocket Reform Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166802
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00:25 TR Bot; LINMOB.net - Weekly GNU-like Mobile Linux Update (26/2022): Plasma Mobile Gear 22.06, Ubuntu Touch OTA-23 and the MNT Pocket Reform | Tux Machines
00:29 TR News; Pocketing capital from national debt https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/12/01/lead-d01.html
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00:29 TR Bot; US corporate profits hit new record - World Socialist Web Site
00:34 TR News; [Old] Road Traffic in European Cities Exposes 60 Million People to Noise Levels Harmful to Health https://www.isglobal.org/en/-/road-traffic-in-european-cities-exposes-60-million-people-to-noise-levels-harmful-to-health
00:34 TR Bot; El trfico rodado en las ciudades europeas expone a 60 millones de personas a niveles de ruido perjudiciales para la salud Road Traffic in European Cities Exposes 60 Million People to Noise Levels Harmful to Health - News - ISGLOBAL
00:34 TR News; [Old] The Different Ways That the U.S. and Chinese Governments Use Their Power to Regulate Capitalism https://www.rdwolff.com/the_different_ways_that_the_u_s_and_chinese_governments_use_their_power_to_regulate_capitalism
00:34 TR Bot; Different Ways That the U.S. and Chinese Governments Use Their Power to Regulate Capitalism - RDWolff
00:36 TR News; "Quantum computing hardware specialists at UNSW have built a quantum processor in silicon to simulate an organic molecule with astounding precision." https://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/science-tech/scientists-emulate-nature-quantum-leap-towards-computers-future
00:36 TR Bot; Scientists emulate nature in quantum leap towards computers of the future | UNSW Newsroom
00:38 TR News; Harms of social control media https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2022/06/23/flagging-ugly-social-media-posts-help-students-get-job
00:38 TR Bot; Flagging ugly social media posts to help students get a job
00:39 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166803
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00:39 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
00:39 matey; xrevan86: the isw map was brilliant too https://understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/Kherson-Mykolaiv%20Battle%20Map%20Draft%20July%202%2C2022.png
00:42 TR News; Jay Little - Software Obsessionist - Sometimes The Only Winning Move Is To Not Play At All https://jaylittle.com/post/view/2022/6/sometimes-the-only-winning-move-is-to-not-play-at-all "No the problem is that the Democratic party is structured to operate purely as a foil to the cancerous regressive Republican party."
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00:42 TR Bot; Jay Little - Software Obsessionist - Sometimes The Only Winning Move Is To Not Play At All
00:43 TR News; "Callum Foote reports on the latest efforts to end the persecution and secret trials of whistleblower Bernard Collaery." https://michaelwest.com.au/timor-spy-saga-rex-patrick-pushes-labor-to-unveil-australias-dirty-secret-end-persecution-of-bernard-collaery/
00:43 TR Bot; Timor Spy Saga: Rex Patrick pushes Labor to unveil Australia's dirty secret, end persecution of Bernard Collaery - Michael West
00:44 matey; /me wonders if toxic masculinity include the goddamned speakers on that portable concert shitmobile outside
00:45 matey; if theyre going to cancel those, im tempted to join the fake left
00:46 matey; "come to the woke side, we have ricecakes"
00:47 matey; /me hasnt seen a ricecake in a decade
00:47 matey; those were "upgraded" to quinoa i think
00:49 matey; ricecakes are probably still useful when you want to ship delicate glassware
00:50 matey; i actually sort of liked them, though i can see how i could be the only person on earth who did
00:51 TR News; Links 03/07/2022: Porteus 5.0 and elementaryOS Report | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/03/porteus-5-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/03/porteus-5-0/
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00:51 TR Bot; Links 03/07/2022: Porteus 5.0 and elementaryOS Report | Techrights
00:51 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166804
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00:51 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
00:52 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166805
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00:52 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
00:53 TR News; "Today in Geminispace, Lasse writes about the social pressure around lawns." gemini://ur.gs/blog/gardening/
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00:54 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D280.jpg
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00:56 matey; the anti-bald videos remind me of pizzagate
00:57 matey; on the one hand, pizzagate was a right wing conspiracy about the fake left that culminated in harassing a dc business owner.
00:57 matey; they targeted a number of probably innocent people. so that happens.
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00:58 matey; then again, not TOO long after was the epstein scandal, which included trump but a number of other interesting high-level people
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00:58 matey; its a hell of a coincidence, if they were completely wrong.
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.00 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.76 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
00:59 matey; maybe ben rich is trump or bill gates
00:59 TR News; Linux 5.19-rc5 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166806
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00:59 TR Bot; Linux 5.19-rc5 | Tux Machines
00:59 matey; maybe hes the dc business owner getting harassed by youtubers
00:59 matey; with forums it can be hard to tell
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01:00 matey; i liked cosby when i was a kid, so i certainly dont trust my own instincts 100% (hes definitely guilty, right?)
01:00 matey; (i mean dave chappelle kind of said so, and really imo that makes it official)
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01:02 matey; "and oj Really Didnt Do it"-- eddie griffin (of malcolm and eddie fame, malcom being malcolm jamal-warner, OF the cosby show...) at which point Dave Chappelle and chi mcbride turned away uncomfortably, because they didnt want to go there
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01:08 TR News; "Which ICER paper has caused you to change the way you teach, or the direction of your research? Which has helped you to see and understand CS education more clearly?" https://computinged.wordpress.com/2022/06/28/new-icer-paper-award-for-lasting-impact-guest-blog-post-from-quintin-cutts/
01:08 TR Bot; New ICER paper award for Lasting Impact: Guest blog post from Quintin Cutts | Computing Education Research Blog
01:09 TR News; Everything to play for: whistleblowers home on the line as Lendlease makes merry with tax code https://michaelwest.com.au/everything-to-play-for-whistleblowers-home-on-the-line-as-lendlease-makes-merry-with-tax-code/
01:09 TR Bot; Everything to play for: whistleblower's home on the line as Lendlease makes merry with tax code - Michael West
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01:10 TR News; Blockade a city and open the door to the right: zealots do Dutton a favour - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/blockade-a-city-and-open-the-door-to-the-right-zealots-do-dutton-a-favour/ Source: michaelwest
01:10 TR Bot; Blockade a city and open the door to the right: zealots do Dutton a favour - Michael West
01:12 TR News; 92 million US workers now have the opportunity to work remotely: survey - The Verge https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/28/23186112/us-flexible-remote-hybrid-work-survey-mckinsey Source: theverge
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01:12 TR Bot; 92 million US workers now have the opportunity to work remotely: survey - The Verge
01:12 TR News; History of Version Control Systems: Part 3 https://matt-rickard.com/history-of-version-control-systems-part-3/ Source: matt-rickard
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01:12 TR Bot; History of Version Control Systems: Part 3
01:13 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I told Mandy I'm just going to go hiking in my pajamas.
01:13 DaemonFC; He said I couldn't do that. I told him it's my vacation damn it and I'm going to be comfortable.
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01:14 DaemonFC; Who's going to complain about it? Nobody cares. If I see anyone in the woods, they're never going to see us again.
01:14 TR News; AI-Guided Robots Are Ready to Sort Your Recyclables - IEEE Spectrum https://spectrum.ieee.org/ai-guided-robots-are-ready-to-sort-your-recyclables Source: spectrum
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01:14 TR Bot; AI-Guided Robots Are Ready to Sort Your Recyclables - IEEE Spectrum
01:18 TR News; AI translates maths problems into code to make them easier to solve | New Scientist https://www.newscientist.com/article/2322999-ai-translates-maths-problems-into-code-to-make-them-easier-to-solve/ Source: newscientist
01:18 TR Bot; AI translates maths problems into code to make them easier to solve | New Scientist
01:19 DaemonFC; "However, cars aren't just a symbol of freedom." -NPR "Used car prices have shot up even more dramatically than new car prices, up 16.1% from a year ago compared to a 12.6% jump in new car prices.
01:19 DaemonFC; Johnny Navarro experienced that sticker shock firsthand after a recent car accident. No one was hurt, but his car was totaled. When he went to the dealership, he found monthly payments had doubled for cars he'd looked at only a few years earlier." -NPR in the same article
01:19 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], ^
01:19 TR News; What's the 'problem' they try to solve here? Salaries? https://www.wsj.com/articles/swedens-einride-to-test-autonomous-trucks-on-u-s-roads-11655985601
=> ↺ https://www.wsj.com/articles/swedens-einride-to-test-autonomous-trucks-on-u-s-roads-11655985601
01:19 TR Bot; Einride to Test Autonomous Trucks on U.S. Roads - WSJ
01:20 DaemonFC; "After a lot of shopping, Navarro found a used Lexus online. His car payment came out to $580 a month."
01:20 DaemonFC; $580 a month on a 2014 Lexus
01:20 DaemonFC; "Navarro is like a lot of Americans he loves his car. For as long as he can afford it, he's going to own one."
01:20 DaemonFC; Well, I agree with that much.
01:21 DaemonFC; I do like driving the Buick.
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01:22 DaemonFC; I suppose car makers realized they could name their own price since most people either don't have a bus or it's running around with all of the degenerates in Waukegan who haven't taken a bath this month, on its way to a place that would take you 10 minutes in a car, only it's two hours, and it doesn't run in the mornings.
01:22 DaemonFC; Waukegan is such a cesspit that it's like "Come on. I'll take you to the cheap dollar store and get you a bar of soap. Jesus!".
01:23 DaemonFC; I might be fat, but I take a shower every day!
01:23 DaemonFC; Have a little bit of self-respect.
01:24 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Mandy was asking why the hell I bought a bunch of handsoap refills. I said "Because you get 3 times as much liquid hand soap for half as much money and you can shower in that.".
01:24 DaemonFC; Whoever came up with body wash is a genius. It's one of those things where in the Board room, they must have ridiculed it as "Oh come on, they're too smart for that!".
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01:25 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], We had dinner at the gas station. Classy, I know.
01:26 DaemonFC; It's cheaper to get jumbo hot dogs that are already cooked and put anything you want on them there than it is to buy them uncooked at the store, plus buns, plus condiments, plus having to cook it yourself.
01:26 DaemonFC; I don't know how they do it.
01:26 DaemonFC; You'd think they have to be buying these things somewhere and their prices have to have gone up, right?
01:27 DaemonFC; It's like the rotisserie chickens that are still $5.
01:28 schestowitz[TR]; let's talk tech
01:29 matey; <schestowitz[TR]> let's talk tech <- change is good
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01:30 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=51Bpx63wkbA
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01:30 TR Bot; Ryksopp - Happy Up Here [Official Music Video] - Invidious
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01:31 matey; 7a new letter about richard stallman eh
01:32 matey; lol, stallmansupport
01:32 XRevan86; https://giveupgithub.org/
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01:32 TR Bot; Give Up GitHub - Software Freedom Conservancy
01:32 matey; a good web-- no!
01:32 matey; /me flies to giveupgithub site, hoping its real
01:32 XRevan86; How in the world did this channel miss this!?
01:32 matey; well, we were dead
01:32 matey; /me waits for roy to say something stupid about it
01:33 matey; oh for gods sake
01:33 schestowitz[TR]; I told you about it twice the other day
01:33 matey; its sfc
01:33 matey; yes but this is the first time ive seen the url
01:33 matey; you mentioned it indirectly
01:33 schestowitz[TR]; sfc doing something better than before
01:33 matey; actually, i can see why.
01:34 schestowitz[TR]; credit for... something better than before
01:34 matey; sfc doing something better than before <- AND THERE IT IS!
01:35 matey; sfc telling people to give up github is like the republican party telling people to give up big government BEFORE BANNING ABORTIONS
01:35 matey; mask on face, FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!
01:35 matey; government jurisdiction in uterus: ok
01:36 matey; <schestowitz[TR]> credit for... Fuck Them
01:36 matey; they ARE the enemy.
01:36 matey; but since you always ride the fence, it wont bother you
01:37 XRevan86; schestowitz: Is it time to stop trying to #DeleteGitHub and instead to jump on the #GiveUpGitHub bandwagon? :)
01:37 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: no, I stopped hashtags in March
01:38 schestowitz[TR]; tags are for something I am a stranger to
01:38 schestowitz[TR]; social control media
01:38 matey; /me waits for giveupgithub.org to reidirectly to giveupstallman.org
01:38 schestowitz[TR]; or irc channels
01:38 schestowitz[TR]; but we don't want a new channel for each "ta"
01:38 XRevan86; matey: That's a pretty big leap.
01:38 matey; /join #GiveUpGitHub
01:39 matey; matey: That's a pretty big leap. <- not for sfc its not
01:39 matey; its one small step for traitors
01:39 schestowitz[TR]; there is actually a #deletegithub channel
01:39 matey; <schestowitz[TR]> there is actually a #deletegithub channel <- what does it do
01:39 schestowitz[TR]; nothing
01:39 matey; i guess its not working then
01:40 matey; Ways To Help Even Before You Give Up GitHub
01:40 matey; Here are some ideas of how you can help raise the importance of this issue even while you're still a GitHub user. (We'll publish longer tutorials in future about these and other ways to help.)
01:40 matey; Add this section to your README.md
01:40 XRevan86; What would that channel be about? Continuous discussion on how to delete GitHub?
01:40 matey; penfold is clever
01:40 matey; hes hijacking a cause to promote sfc
01:41 schestowitz[TR]; funny thing
01:41 schestowitz[TR]; if you go the the fsf channel in freenode
01:41 schestowitz[TR]; no activity since about a week ago:
01:41 schestowitz[TR]; [00:52] fool
01:41 schestowitz[TR]; that was it
01:41 matey; how can you help deletegithub? add this link to the sfc website in your .md on github
01:42 DaemonFC; I cringe at the thought of what cars cost now though. The guy did have some options. I can't believe that he got in what's probably a 6 or 7 year loan on a 2014 anything that costs $600 a month.
01:42 matey; ralphe has a point though
01:42 XRevan86; schestowitz: What's funny about that? That there was a message at all?
01:42 DaemonFC; Mortgages are worse though. They're talking inter-generational mortgages now, schestowitz[TR]
01:42 matey; lets look at fucking gem...
01:42 DaemonFC; 50 year home loans that your kids will have to take over and pay off if they want the house.
01:42 matey; so sfc is telling people you can help giveupgithub-- by promoting sfc-- on github
01:43 matey; no, seriously!
01:43 DaemonFC; They make houses that barely last 20 and they write 50 year loans on them.
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01:43 matey; thats BRILLIANT
01:43 matey; thats like blame ukraine for you pretending to not invade them brilliant.
01:43 matey; "we arent invading you! BUT ITS YOUR FAULT!"
01:44 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/2022/07/02/1109513757/july-4th-fireworks-cancelled-delayed-worker-shortage
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01:44 TR Bot; July 4th fireworks canceled and delayed due to worker shortage : NPR
01:44 DaemonFC; LOL
01:44 DaemonFC; Nobody wants to blow shit up anymore!
01:44 DaemonFC; I do, but I think big.
01:44 matey; <schestowitz[TR]> no activity since about a week ago: <- how did you find out about this?
01:45 XRevan86; And here I was, pleasantly surprised that suddenly some people are reviving the cause.
01:45 matey; And here I was, pleasantly surprised that suddenly <- okay, imagine its putin doing it.
01:45 DaemonFC; There's signs all over Waukegan reminding people setting off the illegal fireworks with absolutely no consequences that fireworks are illegal here.
01:45 matey; now imagine the person heading the sfc is putin
01:45 DaemonFC; "Now stop doing it or we shall taunt you again!"
01:46 matey; adjust for the fact that putin has killed WAY more people than kuhn
01:46 matey; but only because he has a military at his disposal, and kuhn only has a mob of keyboard warriors
01:47 matey; when sociopathic liars pretend to stand for something, all you get is opportunism
01:47 matey; if this channel teaches you nothing else, it should instill that
01:48 XRevan86; It's that bad?
01:48 schestowitz[TR]; Genghis Kuhn?
01:48 matey; i cant answer that question directly
01:48 matey; but i can set you in the right direction...
01:48 schestowitz[TR]; brb
01:48 schestowitz[TR]; I am checking drupal to huge migrations
01:48 schestowitz[TR]; in case we do want to modernise tuxmachines
01:48 schestowitz[TR]; out of lack of choice
01:49 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86 knows all about how we still use innoDB
01:49 matey; youve probably seen this though: https://sfconservancy.org/news/2019/sep/16/rms-does-not-speak-for-us/
=> ↺ https://sfconservancy.org/news/2019/sep/16/rms-does-not-speak-for-us/
01:49 TR Bot; Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement - Software Freedom Conservancy
01:49 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.herzbube.ch/blog/2021/03/goodbye-drupal-welcome-hugo/
=> ↺ https://www.herzbube.ch/blog/2021/03/goodbye-drupal-welcome-hugo/
01:49 TR Bot; Drupal, welcome Hugo! - herzbube.ch
01:49 schestowitz[TR]; http://andrewmarsh.com/blog/2016/02/08/moving-from-drupal-to-hugo/
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01:49 TR Bot; Moving From Drupal to Hugo
01:49 XRevan86; schestowitz: InnoDB is the good one.
01:50 XRevan86; MyISAM is the old one.
01:50 schestowitz[TR]; ""Following my attempt to Migrate from Drupal 6 to Drupal 8, I found the whole experience disappointing. I also found Drupal over complicated for what is a relatively simple website.
01:50 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.hywel.me/static/site/2016/06/11/migrate-a-drupal-6-website-to-a-static-site.html
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01:50 TR Bot; Migrate a Drupal 6 Website to a Static Site
01:50 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: all, right...
01:51 schestowitz[TR]; "This is driven by mobile and the need for simple streamlined and fast content, which database driven sites that generate content on the fly are over engineered and slow in comparison to static sites.
01:51 schestowitz[TR]; "
01:51 schestowitz[TR]; "As expected, neither Jekyll or Hugo are fit for the purpose - they are great static site generators and are mobile friendly BUT maintaining them and adding content is just too technical.
01:51 schestowitz[TR]; "
01:52 matey; MyISAM: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/HarwellDekatronComputer.jpg
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01:53 matey; <schestowitz[TR]> Genghis Kuhn? <- im sure he would love being compared to one of the most prolific rapists of all time (if not the king of them all)
01:54 TR News; NIST Update to Software Reference Library Will Aid in Criminal Investigations | NIST https://www.nist.gov/news-events/news/2022/06/nist-update-software-reference-library-will-aid-criminal-investigations Source: nist
01:54 TR Bot; NIST Update to Software Reference Library Will Aid in Criminal Investigations | NIST
01:54 matey; i dont know if gengis khan is actually the #1 serial rapist, wikipedia seems to be missing a list_of_most_prolific_serial_rapists page
01:55 matey; but he seems like a candidate at least
01:55 TR News; "dYdX is a decentralized exchange for tokenized assets. You can swap different tokens like Ethereum and Bitcoin. Recently, they made a large infrastructure change that makes their decentralized exchange look much more like a traditional onethis is the centralization of dYdX." https://matt-rickard.com/centralization-of-dydx/
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01:55 TR Bot; The Centralization of dYdX
01:55 matey; also he had a lot of help, obviously
01:55 TR News; Kellogg (K) stock up on news it will split into 3 companies https://www.fastcompany.com/90762844/kellogg-is-splitting-into-3-companies-heres-what-each-one-will-focus-on Source: fastcompany
01:55 TR Bot; Kellogg (K) stock up on news it will split into 3 companies
01:55 matey; i mean he was busy commanding an army. if he wanted to rape someone he had people to do that for him
01:57 TR News; "One thing to know about Trail of Bits is that we have always been, and always will be, a remote-first company remote is not a skill we added for the pandemic. That means that we are global in nature, and asynchronous by design" https://blog.trailofbits.com/2022/06/30/a-typical-day-as-a-trail-of-bits-engineer-consultant/
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01:57 TR Bot; A Typical Day as a Trail of Bits Engineer-Consultant | Trail of Bits Blog
01:57 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], There's just not enough workers to set off fireworks.
01:58 DaemonFC; Great Resignation.
01:58 DaemonFC; Now America must resign itself to delayed fireworks.
01:58 matey; wikipedia lists are just original research with numbers on the left, change my mind
01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.00 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.76 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
01:59 DaemonFC; Like that's our biggest problem.
01:59 TR News; "Youve probably heard of the 3-2-1 Backup Rule, which states that you must encode all your data in reverse using a Lotus spreadsheet to archive content you want to keep. In the paraphrased words of Mayor Quimby, that was a quality side joke." https://rubenerd.com/the-4-3-2-1-0-backup-rule/
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01:59 TR Bot; The 43210 Backup Rule
02:00 TR News; The first CRISPR gene-editing drug is coming soon https://www.fastcompany.com/90762983/gene-editing-drugs-are-coming Source: fastcompany
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02:00 TR Bot; The first CRISPR gene-editing drug is coming soon
02:01 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: context?
02:01 schestowitz[TR]; any report?
02:01 TR News; "The proponents of this theory admit that this "computer" produces a lot of waste as it buds off different solutions new businesses, products and services and then prunes away the ones that fail, but, they say, this waste is far less than the waste we'd experience if we shut the "computer" down and switched to a "planned economy."" https://pluralistic.net/2022/07/01/whip-it-good/#deflation
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02:01 TR Bot; Pluralistic: 01 Jul 2022 Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
02:03 matey; plaster the sfc logo all over github: https://sfconservancy.org/docs/SupportGiveUpGitHub-README-snippet.md
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02:03 matey; oh sorry, AN sfc logo. for the campaign
02:04 matey; along with a link to the campaign on the sfc website
02:04 matey; and another link to the sfc website itself
02:04 TR News; Episode 330 - The sliding scale of risk: seeing the forest for the trees - Open Source Security https://opensourcesecurity.io/2022/07/03/episode-330-the-sliding-scale-of-risk-seeing-the-forest-for-the-trees/ Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linuxsecurity
02:04 TR Bot; Episode 330 The sliding scale of risk: seeing the forest for the trees Open Source Security
02:06 TR News; Black Box is a GTK4 Terminal App With Unique Look Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166807
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02:06 TR Bot; Black Box is a GTK4 Terminal App With Unique Look | Tux Machines
02:09 TR News; 16 Bell-Curve Opinions on Engineering https://matt-rickard.com/bell-curve-ideas/ Source: matt-rickard
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02:09 TR Bot; 16 Bell-Curve Opinions on Engineering
02:10 TR News; Robotic lightning bugs take flight | MIT News | Massachusetts Institute of Technology https://news.mit.edu/2022/robotic-actuator-fly-0621 Source: mit http://techrights.org/2020/01/10/gates-sponsored-mit/
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02:10 TR Bot; Robotic lightning bugs take flight | MIT News | Massachusetts Institute of Technology
02:10 TR Bot; Massachusetts Institute of Tall Tales (MIT) Covers Up Bill Gates Bribery of MIT Through a High-Profile Pedophile, Citing No Evidence Other Than Representatives of Gates Himself | Techrights
02:11 TR News; Creating maps to share the coffee shops I have visited | James' Coffee Blog https://jamesg.blog/2022/06/30/building-coffee-maps/ "OpenStreetMap is an open source map to which anyone can contribute."
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02:11 TR Bot; Creating maps to share the coffee shops I have visited | James' Coffee Blog
02:13 TR News; "The United States claims it benevolently promotes democracy over authoritarianism through its international technology policies. In reality, America forces poor countries to let US-based GAFAM companies steal their data." https://jacobin.com/2022/06/us-tech-companies-government-contracts-data-google-facebook-microsoft-amazon/
02:13 TR Bot; Bidens Campaign for Digital Democracy Is Really a Giveaway to Big Tech
02:14 TR News; A Decade After Lugo Was Ousted, Paraguays Left Has a Chance to Regain Power https://jacobin.com/2022/06/fernando-lugo-paraguay-coup-elections-colorado/ Source: jacobin
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02:14 TR Bot; A Decade After Lugo Was Ousted, Paraguays Left Has a Chance to Regain Power
02:15 TR News; Review: The Murena One phone running /e/OS 1.0 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166808
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02:15 TR Bot; Review: The Murena One phone running /e/OS 1.0 | Tux Machines
02:17 TR News; 2560 gemini capsules gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi
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02:24 TR News; gemini://drewdevault.com/ is offline. Either it took it down intentionally, which is possible, or this is just temporary
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02:25 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D632.jpg
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02:26 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D281.jpg
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02:32 TR News; Who Is Liable when [an algorithm] Kills? - Scientific American https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/who-is-liable-when-ai-kills/ Source: scientificamerican
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02:32 TR Bot; Who Is Liable when AI Kills? - Scientific American
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02:33 TR News; Simple-Theme for Jekyll Website https://afhub.dev/tech/blog/simple-theme/jekyll-theme/2022/06/30/Simple-Theme.html Source: afhub
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02:34 TR Bot; Simple-Theme for Jekyll Website
02:35 TR News; UCLA Scientists Develop New Algorithms to Study Genomic Data | UCLA Samueli School Of Engineering https://samueli.ucla.edu/ucla-scientists-develop-new-algorithms-to-study-genomic-data/ Source: samueli
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02:35 TR Bot; UCLA Scientists Develop New Algorithms to Study Genomic Data | UCLA Samueli School Of Engineering
02:36 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-030722.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-030722.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-030722.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-030722.txt
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02:36 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, July 03, 2022
02:37 TR News; Corporations like Facebook, which manipulate what people say and see, have conned many people into thinking that corporate propaganda is in fact totally just what their "trusted" friends are saying
02:37 TR News; If anybody objects to the mobile marriage of Telstra and TPG ... Optus, "Yes!" - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/if-anybody-objects-to-the-mobile-marriage-of-telstra-and-tpg-optus-yes/ Source: michaelwest
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02:37 TR Bot; If anybody objects to the mobile marriage of Telstra and TPG ... Optus, "Yes!" - Michael West
02:37 TR News; Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-030722.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-030722.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-030722.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-030722.txt
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02:37 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, July 03, 2022
02:38 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-030722.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-030722.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-030722.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-030722.txt
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02:38 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, July 03, 2022
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02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, July 03, 2022
02:40 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-07-03.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-07-03.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
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02:43 TR News; EasyOS 4.2.3 Released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166809
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02:43 TR Bot; EasyOS 4.2.3 Released | Tux Machines
02:49 TR News; KDE plasma says "desktop folder". Weird. I thought in GNU/Linux we have directories, not "folders"...
02:50 matey; sfco
02:50 matey; software freedom controlled opposition
02:51 matey; NOT the people you want in charge of deletegithub
02:51 matey; or anything else for that matter
02:51 matey; okay, you can put them in charge of a taco stand
02:51 matey; "why do i have to sign a code of conduct to buy a taco?"
02:52 matey; "what are you, a racist?"
02:56 matey; China Rallies Support for Kylin Linux <- they must have liked the german bold italic video she was in
02:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.00 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.76 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
02:59 matey; We hosted him in our home during one of those visits and I can say that, despite his peculiarities, he is one of the most honest and intelligent people I know, and he has a good heart. http://techrights.org/2022/07/03/francisca-pacheco-lopez-on-rms/
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02:59 TR Bot; Francisca Pacheco Lpez on Richard Stallman | Techrights
02:59 matey; What people have done to him is unfair and cruel, accuse him of what? Of making rational, inquisitive comments?
03:00 matey; that would be the giveupgithub people.
03:00 matey; Cruelest of all, people who wish to separate him from the movement that he has created, from the whole purpose of his life.
03:00 matey; that would be the giveupgithub people.
03:01 matey; just the fact that i went through HUNDREDS of projects in the gnu project to see which ones (too fucking many) used github
03:01 matey; and im still not impressed by "giveupgithub" ought to say something
03:02 matey; theyre hijacking a cause is all. AGAIN.
03:03 matey; this is what sfc does
03:03 matey; (also osi)
03:05 matey; What is the point of calling ourselves progressives, feminists, or anti-fascists, if we ourselves cannot deal with someone who thinks and expresses himself differently?
03:06 matey; I am deeply ashamed for not having raised my voice in his defense more firmly before this. https://stallmansupport.org/testimonies-letters-writings-and-more.html#busaniche
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03:06 TR Bot; Testimonies, Letters, Writings, and More | Stallman Support
03:06 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 45924 total Total number of pages in capsule: 41465 Active: active (running) since Fri 2022-05-27 10:17:06 BST; 1 months 7 days ago
03:07 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 11 MB TotalOut: 2.2 MB
03:08 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:09 IPFS; QmSGhRVAV44sV2y4ZAiDWo9kvmhjvgBBfpAKFP6AdRx6Pc
03:09 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
03:16 matey; its a happy music video (from years ago) about invaders getting blown out of the sky
03:16 matey; but honestly, i was thinking of the song recently. it happens to have a great video too
03:17 matey; Ryksopp - Happy Up Here [Official Music Video]
03:17 matey; i guess theyre from norway
03:19 matey; Ryksopp were approached to compose the soundtrack for The Matrix Reloaded, although they declined the offer.
03:19 matey; haha
03:20 matey; no one likes the sequels
03:24 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> any report?
03:24 DaemonFC; NPR says shortage of pyrotechnicians.
03:32 MinceR; 04 041601 < matey> its a happy music video (from years ago) about invaders getting blown out of the sky
03:32 MinceR; https://i.redd.it/5yg436ztdda51.jpg
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03:37 DaemonFC; https://apnews.com/article/covid-science-health-infectious-diseases-fb25f987bab09a11be31a32e832dd9de
03:37 TR Bot; For now, wary US treads water with transformed COVID-19 | AP News
03:37 DaemonFC; "COVID-19 is still killing hundreds of Americans each day, but is not nearly as dangerous as it was last fall and winter."
03:37 DaemonFC; The very mild deaths.
03:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.75 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.85 average k/sec., average swarm size 304.78
04:12 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, July 03, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
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04:12 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
04:12 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
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04:12 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
04:17 matey; all of adams ants songs are about invading humans too (but only with consent)
04:18 TR News; "In this guide, we will learn how to setup secure private docker registry on Ubuntu 22.04 (Jammy jellyfish) using self-sign SSL" https://www.linuxbuzz.com/setup-secure-private-docker-registry-ubuntu/ | Source: Linux Buzz
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04:18 TR Bot; How to Setup Secure Private Docker Registry on Ubuntu 22.04
04:18 TR News; "The processor system integrated on the MYC-YT507H SOM is the Allwinner T507-H which combines a four-core Arm Cortex-A53." https://linuxgizmos.com/myirs-new-som-taps-allwinner-t507-h-processor/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
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04:18 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/myirs-new-som-taps-allwinner-t507-h-processor/ )
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04:19 TR News; arizona https://www.salon.com/2022/07/01/schools-out-forever-arizona-moves-to-public-education-with-new-universal-voucher-law/
04:19 TR Bot; out forever: Arizona moves "to kill public education" with new universal voucher law | Salon.com
04:19 TR News; "Julian Assange case is exactly what completely shattered the illusion of fake liberal democracy of the West for me." https://soylentnews.org/~janrinok/journal/11565
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04:19 TR Bot; Journal of janrinok (52)
04:20 TR News; China had enough of Windows "https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/03/china_openkylin/
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04:20 TR Bot; China rallies support for Kylin Linux in war on Windows The Register
04:21 TR News; "dhclient(8) has been undergoing replacement with "ifconfig xxx inet auto" for a couple of years" https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220703114819 | Source: Undeadly
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04:21 TR Bot; In -current, dhclient(8) now just logs warnings and executes ifconfig(8)
04:22 TR News; todays howtos Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166810
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04:22 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
04:25 TR News; Proprietary software https://text.npr.org/1109592782 | Source: NPR
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04:25 TR Bot; A scheduling glitch temporarily canceled thousands of American Airlines flights
04:25 TR News; Proprietary software https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/business/money-report/american-airlines-scheduling-glitch-allows-pilots-to-drop-thousands-of-july-trips/3759727/ | Source: NBC
04:25 TR Bot; American Airlines Scheduling Glitch Allows Pilots to Drop Thousands of July Flights NBC New York
04:25 TR News; "Im deleting Instagram" https://www.theverge.com/22786305/how-to-delete-restore-instagram-account-web-app-temporarily-suspend | Source: The Verge
04:25 TR Bot; How to delete your Instagram account - The Verge
04:25 TR News; "Blackburns letter included a series of 11 questions that the senators requested answers to by July 18" https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/tiktok-letter-republican-senators-china-data-privacy-rcna36359 | Source: NBC
04:25 TR Bot; TikTok responds to data privacy concerns raised by Republican senators
04:26 TR News; "partisan influence" https://www.univision.com/univision-news/opinion/oped-feeley-hemisphere-media-crisis-ecosystem |
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04:26 TR Bot; by ambassador John Feeley on the hemisphere's unhealthy media ecosystem | Univision News Opinion | Univision
04:26 TR News; Censorship https://reason.com/2022/06/30/criticizing-lack-of-grocery-stores-in-the-south-bronx-means-twitter-mob-will-request-your-firing/ | Source: Reason
04:26 TR Bot; Midwestern College Grad Fired After Criticizing Bronx Bodega Culture
04:26 TR News; "The decision essentially gives courts the ability to decide what is a major question" https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3544328-how-scotuss-latest-decision-could-hinder-democrats-effort-to-reinstate-net-neutrality-rules/ | Source: The Hill
04:26 TR Bot; How SCOTUSs latest decision could hinder Democrats effort to reinstate net neutrality rules | The Hill
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05:27 TR News; Facebook https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/07/03/era-self-oversight-over-only-antitrust-can-rein-facebook | Source: Common Dreams
05:28 TR Bot; Opinion | The Era of 'Self-Oversight' Is Over: Only Antitrust Can Rein In Facebook | Aidan Smith
05:28 schestowitz[TR]; Ariadne: just had to repair a DB again
05:28 schestowitz[TR]; not sure if there's a problem with the physical disk
05:30 schestowitz; Ariadne:
05:30 schestowitz; tuxmachines-old:/var/log$ sudo grep phys_seg messages | wc -l
05:30 schestowitz; 270
05:31 schestowitz; sudo grep phys_seg messages
05:31 schestowitz; Jul 3 03:40:42 tuxmachines-old kernel: [12177647.910686] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev vda, sector 1182724624 op 0x1:(WRITE) flags 0x100000 phys_seg 2 prio class 0
05:31 schestowitz; Jul 3 03:40:42 tuxmachines-old kernel: [12177647.910820] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev vda, sector 1182724640 op 0x1:(WRITE) flags 0x104000 phys_seg 254 prio class 0
05:31 schestowitz; this has gone on for months like this in both VMs
05:31 Ariadne; i can check
05:31 schestowitz[TR]; thanks
05:31 Ariadne; but really for some reason both are hammering the I/O aggressively
05:34 schestowitz[TR]; maybe those alerts are benign, but they have gone on for months and many backups taken become invalid gzip filessince January
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05:41 TR News; "A few years ago, [Charles] picked up a sweet Suzuki motorcycle that checked all the boxen" https://hackaday.com/2022/07/03/ride-diy-or-die-this-badge-less-suzuki/ | Source: Hackaday
=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/03/ride-diy-or-die-this-badge-less-suzuki/
05:41 TR Bot; DIY Or Die This Badge-Less Suzuki | Hackaday
05:46 TR News; "Game developer Bungie is determined to win its legal battle with cheat seller AimJunkies.com" https://torrentfreak.com/bungie-wants-paypals-help-to-expose-cheaters-220703/ | Source: Torrent Freak
=> ↺ https://torrentfreak.com/bungie-wants-paypals-help-to-expose-cheaters-220703/
05:46 TR Bot; Wants PayPal's Help to Expose Cheaters' * TorrentFreak
05:50 TR News; "When it comes to classic cars, the entertainment options can be limited." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/03/bluetooth-8-track-adapters-are-a-thing/ | Source: Hackaday
=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/03/bluetooth-8-track-adapters-are-a-thing/
05:50 TR Bot; 8-Track Adapters Are A Thing | Hackaday
05:53 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Firefox Sync is such a piece of shit.
05:53 DaemonFC; It lost all my passwords on my Android phone now.
05:56 schestowitz[TR]; mozilla lost mant technical people
05:56 schestowitz[TR]; I don't trust the people who run the company
05:57 DaemonFC; I was in the grocery store trying to look up recipes that I needed ingredients for....
05:57 DaemonFC; It stopped syncing my history, reconnecting it didn't help.
05:57 DaemonFC; I have no idea what's going on with it.
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05:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.51 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.68 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
06:00 DaemonFC; It'll be nice to be on vacation this week.
06:00 DaemonFC; I'm not worn out physically, of course, but mentally? Sure.
06:04 TR News; Links 04/07/2022: EasyOS 4.2.3 and Murena One Phone With /e/OS 1.0 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/04/easyos-4-2-3/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/04/easyos-4-2-3/
=> http://techrights.org/2022/07/04/easyos-4-2-3/
=> gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/04/easyos-4-2-3/
06:04 TR Bot; Links 04/07/2022: EasyOS 4.2.3 and Murena One Phone With /e/OS 1.0 | Techrights
06:06 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166811
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06:06 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
06:06 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows: GNU World Order, Open Source Security, and LINUX Unplugged Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166812
=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166812
06:06 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows: GNU World Order, Open Source Security, and LINUX Unplugged | Tux Machines
06:06 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166813
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06:06 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
06:10 schestowitz[TR]; Ariadne: maybe I can migrate tuxmachines to a fresh VM?
06:10 schestowitz[TR]; with new OS it would be secure and maybe I/O will improve too
06:11 schestowitz[TR]; I've repaired the DB (with loss, it seems) 4 times this past day and am getting worried
06:11 schestowitz[TR]; need sleep now :) bb
06:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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06:48 TR News; Have fun with the Linux terminal - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KqhqgdezPp8 Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
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06:48 TR Bot; Have fun with the Linux terminal - Invidious
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06:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.51 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.68 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
07:04 TR News; Darktable 4.0.0 is Here with a Revamped UI and Improved Color Saturation http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166768#comment-34238
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07:04 TR Bot; darktable 4.0: 3763 Days Later | Tux Machines
07:04 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166814
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07:04 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
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07:24 TR News; #HowTo Strengthen Firefox Privacy and Security for Digital Surveillance Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166815
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07:24 TR Bot; How to Strengthen Firefox Privacy and Security for Digital Surveillance | Tux Machines
07:29 TR News; Digital Transparency: A Right to Information Report for June 2022 https://internetfreedom.in/transparency-report-jun-2022/ Source: internetfreedom
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07:29 TR Bot; Digital Transparency: A Right to Information Report for June 2022
07:29 TR News; "The app and the source code is released under the GNU General Public License V2.0." https://medevel.com/caloriescope-2/
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07:29 TR Bot; CalorieScope is A Calories Calculator for Android That Cares About Your Privacy
07:30 TR News; Best 15 Debian-based Linux Distributions Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166816
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07:30 TR Bot; Best 15 Debian-based Linux Distributions | Tux Machines
07:31 TR News; The History of Rocky Linux [Enterprise] Distribution Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166817
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07:31 TR Bot; The History of Rocky Linux [Enterprise] Distribution | Tux Machines
07:31 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D632.jpg
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07:32 TR News; "Right now, I feel so out of touch with everything that has been going on in the world" gopher://sdf.org:70/1/users/xiled/phlog/2022/20220703_the_dark
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07:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.51 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.68 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
08:06 schestowitz[TR]; lots of DB repair on TM todaya
08:06 schestowitz[TR]; but I think all the important tables are OK
08:06 schestowitz[TR]; the search index is broken
08:07 schestowitz[TR]; some old revisions may be lost, but not main revisions
08:07 schestowitz[TR]; my gift for the holiday, I guess...
08:17 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Sunday, July 03, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/04/irc-log-030722/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/04/irc-log-030722/
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08:17 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Sunday, July 03, 2022 | Techrights
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08:21 TR News; No, do not install proprietary spyware from the company that attacks GNU/Linux. Use free/libre software which does not spy on the user and is not controlled by Microsoft https://nextgentips.com/2022/07/04/how-to-install-visual-studio-code-on-ubuntu-20-0422-04/
=> ↺ https://nextgentips.com/2022/07/04/how-to-install-visual-studio-code-on-ubuntu-20-0422-04/
08:21 TR Bot; to install Visual Studio Code on Ubuntu 20.04|22.04 NextGenTips
08:21 TR News; Manage your files in your Linux terminal with ranger | https://opensource.com/article/22/7/manage-files-linux-terminal-ranger Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linux
=> ↺ https://opensource.com/article/22/7/manage-files-linux-terminal-ranger
08:21 TR Bot; your files in your Linux terminal with ranger | Opensource.com
08:21 TR News; Document themes in Impress: shape fill Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166818
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08:21 TR Bot; Document themes in Impress: shape fill | Tux Machines
08:22 TR News; ASRock unveils Edge AIoT Platform based on Alder Lake S processors https://linuxgizmos.com/asrock-unveils-edge-aiot-platform-based-on-alder-lake-s-processors/ Source: LinuxGizmos | Hardware | Devices | GNU | Linux
=> ↺ https://linuxgizmos.com/asrock-unveils-edge-aiot-platform-based-on-alder-lake-s-processors/
08:22 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/asrock-unveils-edge-aiot-platform-based-on-alder-lake-s-processors/ )
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08:24 TR News; What Red Hat thinks should inspire the 'suits' https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/7/cio-summer-book-list
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08:24 TR Bot; 7 books that CIOs should read this summer | The Enterprisers Project
08:26 TR News; "Interest rates are used, theoretically, to encourage or discourage demand. But to use a tech analogy, I feel like were operating a black box right now, and with completely different inputs. Were in uncharted waters." https://rubenerd.com/interest-rates-in-2022/
=> ↺ https://rubenerd.com/interest-rates-in-2022/
08:26 TR Bot; Interest rates in 2022
08:27 schestowitz; Good book, bad language gemini://idiomdrottning.org/good-book-bad-language "arent necessarily my fave languages, like Smalltalk, Perl, and even COBOL.
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08:27 schestowitz; "
08:34 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166819
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08:34 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
08:38 TR News; Now British media admits COVID-19 is slipping out of control. What about data? Oh, never mind that... it's already 3 days out of date... with no plans to provide updates for 7 days at a time! https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
=> ↺ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
08:38 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ )
=> ↺ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
08:39 TR News; Global Coalition of NGOs: Repeal MR5 and its amendment MR10 - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/indonesia-repeal-mr5-and-its-amendment-mr10/ Source: accessnow
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08:39 TR Bot; Global Coalition of NGOs: Repeal MR5 and its amendment MR10 - Access Now
08:52 TR News; No update in the Kubernetes blog since June 1st. Strange... https://kubernetes.io/feed.xml
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08:57 TR News; STEPFPGA FPGA board is programmable with a Web IDE http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166575#comment-34240
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08:57 TR Bot; MNT Pocket Reform 7-inch modular mini laptop takes a range of Arm (and FPGA) modules | Tux Machines
08:58 TR News; This gets one's system infested with Microsoft Mono https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-pinta-on-fedora-36-linux/
=> ↺ https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-pinta-on-fedora-36-linux/
08:58 TR Bot; to Install Pinta on Fedora 36 Linux - LinuxCapable
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.51 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.68 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
09:04 TR News; Links 04/07/2022: LibreOffice Impress Improvements and History of Rocky Linux | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/04/history-of-rocky-linux/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/04/history-of-rocky-linux/
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09:04 TR Bot; Links 04/07/2022: LibreOffice Impress Improvements and History of Rocky Linux | Techrights
09:05 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166820
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09:05 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
09:18 TR News; Having a very tough time with tuxmachines DB lately. The DB turns 20 in 2 years (same for my personal blog; started with ancient mysql). I think companies need to slow down development and focus on long-term maintenance so that sites, for instance (DB, OS, CMS, P/L), can go on for decades without things getting long in the tooth. There's financial incentive to break stuff and then sell "support" or "upgrades".
09:20 TR News; Best Raspberry Pi Deals 2022 | Tom's Hardware
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09:20 TR Bot; Best Raspberry Pi Deals 2022 | Tom's Hardware
09:20 TR News; Best Raspberry Pi Deals 2022 | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/best-raspberry-pi-deals Source: tomshardware
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09:22 TR News; Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 Powers Lyra+ Gaming Handheld | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/lyra-plus-handheld-uses-raspberry-pi Source: tomshardware
=> ↺ https://www.tomshardware.com/news/lyra-plus-handheld-uses-raspberry-pi
09:22 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 Powers Lyra+ Gaming Handheld | Tom's Hardware
09:23 TR News; Raspberry Pi Pico W Adds Wi-Fi, Costs Just $6 https://gizmodo.com/raspberry-pi-pico-w-wifi-bluetooth-wireless-connectivit-1849133713 Source: gizmodo
=> ↺ https://gizmodo.com/raspberry-pi-pico-w-wifi-bluetooth-wireless-connectivit-1849133713
09:23 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Pico W Adds Wi-Fi, Costs Just $6
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09:23 TR News; Best Raspberry Pi Projects | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/features/best-raspberry-pi-projects Source: tomshardware
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09:23 TR Bot; Best Raspberry Pi Projects | Tom's Hardware
09:24 TR News; Elecfreaks Pico:ed Review: RP2040 in a Micro:Bit Form Factor | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/elecfreaks-picoed-review-rp2040-in-a-microbit-form-factor Source: tomshardware
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09:24 TR Bot; Elecfreaks Pico:ed Review: RP2040 in a Micro:Bit Form Factor | Tom's Hardware
09:24 TR News; Raspberry Pi Pico Modchip Plays Homebrew on GameCube | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-pico-gamecube-modchip Source: tomshardware
=> ↺ https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-pico-gamecube-modchip
09:24 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Pico Modchip Plays Homebrew on GameCube | Tom's Hardware
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09:28 TR News; This is a proprietary Microsoft issue, stop saying "Linux" https://www.securityweek.com/azure-service-fabric-vulnerability-can-lead-cluster-takeover
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09:28 TR Bot; Service Fabric Vulnerability Can Lead to Cluster Takeover | SecurityWeek.Com
09:28 TR News; BSD: makefs Adds HAMMER2 Support and Other BSD News Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166821
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09:29 TR Bot; BSD: makefs Adds HAMMER2 Support and Other BSD News | Tux Machines
09:29 TR News; Gulag works for the NSA. Why would anybody trust Gulag to manage passwords? Snowden leaks have shown NSA targets "the clown" to scoop up sys admins' passwords. https://www.engadget.com/google-password-manager-chrome-ios-android-sompromised-weak-passwords-160006685.html?src=rss
09:29 TR Bot; is making its password manager easier to use across all platforms | Engadget
09:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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09:38 TR News; Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166822
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09:38 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi and More | Tux Machines
09:44 TR News; How to Install Fedora 36 Server with Screenshots https://www.tecmint.com/fedora-server-installation-guide/ Source: TecMint FreeSW | GNU | Linux
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09:44 TR Bot; How to Install Fedora 36 Server with Screenshots
09:49 TR News; "This series highlights essential system tools. These are small utilities, useful for system administrators as well as regular users of Linux based systems. The series examines both graphical and text based open source utilities" https://www.linuxlinks.com/essential-system-tools-gwakeonlan/
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09:49 TR Bot; System Tools: gWakeOnLAN - turn machines on through Wake On LAN - LinuxLinks
09:49 TR News; Fcitx 5 Plasma Theme support Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166823
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09:49 TR Bot; Fcitx 5 Plasma Theme support | Tux Machines
09:53 TR News; Now that COVID-19 is surging worldwide it's OK to condemn the response/strategy, which was short-sighted, 'short term', self-serving. Vaccines are good, but these ones were rushed, monopolised with patents (graft; making the rich a lot richer) and isolation/home-working almost abandoned to appease the estate tycoons. Now we pay the price.
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10:02 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166824
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10:02 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
10:03 TR News; 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: July 3rd, 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166825
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10:03 TR Bot; 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: July 3rd, 2022 | Tux Machines
10:08 TR News; Need A Linux Kernel Module? Scratch That Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166827
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10:08 TR Bot; Need A Linux Kernel Module? Scratch That | Tux Machines
10:10 TR News; How to use YAML nesting, lists, and comments in Ansible playbooks | Enable Sysadmin https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/yaml-nesting-lists-comments-ansible Source: Red Hat | ICBM | GNU | Linux
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10:10 TR Bot; How to use YAML nesting, lists, and comments in Ansible playbooks | Enable Sysadmin
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10:20 TR News; Too easy to forget PIN codes and home alarm codes when you always pay with cash and when COVID-19 prevents you staying outside far away or for long periods of time.
10:30 TR News; openSUSE.Asia Summit 2022 Logo Competition and Call For Papers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166828
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10:30 TR Bot; openSUSE.Asia Summit 2022 Logo Competition and Call For Papers | Tux Machines
10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.51 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.68 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
12:19 TR News; Slackware-Based Porteus Linux 5.0 Released with Eight Desktop Flavors, Linux 5.18 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166829
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12:19 TR Bot; Slackware-Based Porteus Linux 5.0 Released with Eight Desktop Flavors, Linux 5.18 | Tux Machines
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12:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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12:32 TR News; Linux User Space: Episode 3:01: Total Community Protection https://www.linuxuserspace.show/301 Source: linuxuserspace
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12:32 TR Bot; Linux User Space: Episode 3:01: Total Community Protection
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12:33 TR Bot; Launch your DOS games from the Steam Deck and ditch the headache. - Invidious
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13:17 TR Bot; China rallies support for Kylin Linux in war on Windows | Tux Machines
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13:57 TR Bot; Give Up GitHub: The Time Has Come! | Tux Machines
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14:28 SomeH4x0r; hi
14:29 matey; hi
14:34 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/14011286
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14:36 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/252825
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14:36 TR Bot; Nuclear power plant employee tortured to death by Russian troops for refusing to dewater the cooling ponds
14:36 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/04/novosibirsk-spontaneous-memorial-in-honour-of-dmitry-kolker-who-died-three-days-after-being-detained-torn-down-news "Novosibirsk: spontaneous memorial in honour of Dmitry Kolker, who died three days after being detained, torn down"
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14:39 matey; XRevan86: incidentally, the point isnt that kuhn is as bad as putin. the point was simply that some people/orgs are so corrupt and so far from their STATED intentions that even the Best campaigns are undoubtedly bullshit
14:39 matey; putin is the most obvious example of that i can think of at the moment. kuhn is a less obvious (but still obvious) example
14:39 matey; i consider him no better than an assassin
14:39 XRevan86; matey: I don't know, what could be the sinister side of advocating for leaving MS GitHub?
14:39 XRevan86; Except for the obvious one, which is advocating to go to GitFlic instead :).
14:40 matey; maybe that its really just opportunism to promote a corrupt sfc?
14:40 matey; i mean what could be the sinister side of liberating iraqis?
14:40 matey; this isnt sfcs first corrupt move, thats the point
14:41 matey; if it was, it would be impossible to show what a farce this is
14:41 matey; am i to believe theyre turning over a new leaf?
14:41 XRevan86; matey: So liberating iraqis is like advocating to leave GitHub, but the US promoted itself like SFC does now?
14:41 matey; youre not really this pedantic are you?
14:41 XRevan86; I absolutely am :D
14:41 matey; so you need a diagram then?
14:42 matey; im not asking you to believe hes thoroughly corrupt
14:42 matey; but if he is, then this is naked self-promotion and has nothing to do with getting people to move from github
14:43 matey; its only about co-opting a good idea to move away rfom microsoft
14:43 matey; and when you consider that ESR did the same thing for 20+ years...
14:43 matey; its not really that farfetched
14:43 matey; when you consider that esr had a similar plan to the one sfc actually took part in...
14:43 matey; they dont even have to be directly connected-- theyre cut from the same dirty cloth.
14:44 matey; like there may be zero connection between stalin and putlin (though with the kgb there probably is one)
14:44 matey; theyre the same type of guy
14:44 matey; esr and kuhn are the same type of guy
14:44 matey; osi had campaigns that seemed benevolent
14:44 matey; all they ever led up to was destroying and occupying the fsf.
14:44 matey; and selling free software to microsoft
14:45 matey; kuhn is a sociopath, he doesnt care about progress. but many people are happy to hijack some good cause to sell something
14:45 matey; sfc needs funding. this is free advertising
14:45 matey; you dont have to be as cynical as mincer to see that. youre already cynical enough. this isnt a stretch of the imagination either.
14:45 TR News; TUXEDO Pulse 15 Gen2 Linux Ultrabook Out Now with Ryzen 7 5700U, WQHD Display Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166832
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14:45 TR Bot; TUXEDO Pulse 15 Gen2 Linux Ultrabook Out Now with Ryzen 7 5700U, WQHD Display | Tux Machines
14:45 matey; but okay.
14:46 matey; with some people theres never convincing them short of the test of time.
14:46 matey; so we wait.
14:46 matey; at least when it happens, and becomes past tense, i know youll see it for what it is and not downplay reality like some people i know.
14:46 matey; its one thing not to know, but to know better and pretend otherwise is more than pedantic, its willful ignorance
14:47 matey; that wont apply here, until later. but i have more faith in you than that
14:47 matey; too bad you dont see it yet though. i mean, that goes for anybody.
14:47 matey; i know im not the only one. i very rarely am.
14:48 XRevan86; matey: That could be because my understanding of what SFC is about is very surface-level.
14:48 matey; of course
14:49 matey; on the one hand, im surprised you could hang out here and miss it-- but
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14:49 matey; on the other, i really have no reason not to take your word for it
14:49 XRevan86; And I'm actually not cynical at all, I assume good about people.
14:49 matey; oh, well-- thats a good trait to have regarding most people
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14:50 matey; i would advise anyone that takes me seriously (all three of them) to not apply it in this instance
14:50 matey; assuming good faith until sufficient evidence comes along is a VERY good rule of thumb
14:50 MinceR; 04 154911 < techrights-news> [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D281.jpg
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14:50 MinceR; old
14:50 XRevan86; Well, I'll keep an eye out on SFC.
14:50 matey; the question is what threshold of evidence changes your opinion of someone/something
14:51 MinceR; 04 154917 < XRevan86> And I'm actually not cynical at all, I assume good about people.
14:51 MinceR; i used to do that too
14:51 matey; but as you said, you havent really noticed much. and to be fair-- they dont get loads of press
14:51 MinceR; then i spent a few decades among them
14:51 matey; i used to do that too <- /me imagines a young and innocent mincer, wide-eyed and hopeful
14:51 TR News; Perf Trace, Private Tux - Solving Linux mysteries
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14:51 *psydroid2 just treats people the way they treat him
14:51 XRevan86; matey: https://sfconservancy.org/news/2021/oct/28/2021-DMCA-final-exemptions-win/ like that's good, right?
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14:52 matey; like that's good, right <- that was one month after he knifed stallman in the back
14:52 matey; do you know what happened RIGHT BEFORE that?
14:52 matey; i know i didnt answer your question. im trying to give you the context of the situation yorue asking about instead-- but ill grant you its not quite the answer you requested.
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14:53 matey; but just to give you a timeline:
14:53 matey; oct: this is what youre asking about
14:53 matey; sept: he tried to destroy stallmans career/life with bullshit
14:53 matey; and just before that is even more telling.
14:53 matey; this isnt buzzfeed/tmz stuff here
14:53 matey; this is pure politics
14:54 XRevan86; So what was just before that?
14:54 matey; just before that... he was at the fsf (he used to be an executive director)
14:54 matey; and someone was telling him that there was a conflict of interest between his promotion / heading of sfc and his position at the fsf.
14:54 matey; and that they wanted him to choose one
14:54 TR News; Input: i8042 - add TUXEDO devices to i8042 quirk https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/dtor/input.git/commit/?h=next&id=a6a87c36165e6791eeaed88025cde270536c3198
14:54 TR Bot; kernel/git/dtor/input.git - Dmitry Torokhov's input tree
14:54 matey; so he chose sfc
14:55 matey; and then turned around to end stallmans leadership of the fsf.
14:55 matey; theres a little more context as well-- again this is presented as evidence, its not "proof" its context
14:56 matey; one of the reasons im told (by a canceller) that stallman was turned against
14:56 TR News; On people offended when asked not to use Facebook, and who will die first https://stop.zona-m.net/2022/04/on-people-offended-when-asked-not-to-use-facebook-and-who-will-die-first/
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14:56 matey; was he didnt support banning eben moglen from libreplanet
14:56 matey; libreplanet plays a central role in a lot of this-- its like a trojan horse in the fsf walls
14:56 matey; but thats an aside
14:56 matey; eben moglen runs an sfc competitor that kuhn used to work for
14:57 matey; heads it
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14:57 matey; sfc competes with the sflc, which is run by moglen
14:57 matey; sflc went after sfc for trademark infringement
14:57 matey; a lot of the things sfc does are just clones of sflc that dont seem in very good faith
14:58 matey; and stallman was the one who refused to let moglen get banned from libreplanet
14:58 matey; for allegedly "threatening" someones career
14:58 TR News; Uzbekistan region in information vacuum, authorities must #KeepItOn - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/uzbekistan-information-vacuum-keepiton/ Source: accessnow
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14:58 TR Bot; Uzbekistan region in information vacuum, authorities must #KeepItOn - Access Now
14:58 XRevan86; matey: https://softwarefreedom.org/resources/2016/linux-kernel-cddl.html is that the reason?
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14:58 TR Bot; The Linux Kernel, CDDL and Related Issues - Software Freedom Law Center
14:58 matey; is that the reason? <- if thats what i think it is, you can maybe go back that far and have it be related, yes
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14:59 matey; there were two stages
14:59 matey; one was that he was ousted for reasons any reasonable person could consier legitimate
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14:59 matey; which is to say, his positions on certain legal matters vs positions the fsf holds
14:59 XRevan86; matey: Well I just found a post by mjg59_: https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/49370.html , which appears to be vaguely related.
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14:59 TR Bot; mjg59 | Eben Moglen is no longer a friend of the free software community
14:59 matey; and while im not sure i agree, i can see the logic
14:59 matey; Well I just found a post by <- you are probably on the same path to finding this information for yoursel
15:00 matey; everything youre mentioning is either familiar, or at least similar
15:00 TR News; "The clown" is a security breah https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/cloud-osint-finding-interesting-resources/
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15:00 matey; theres an incredible amount of intrigue around sfc, but its not the "intrigue" that gets me
15:00 matey; its the sheer treachery. the intrigue is just breadcrumbs
15:01 matey; hints or red flags
15:01 matey; im concerned with the deeds, not merely the appearances of things.
15:01 matey; nonetheless the appearances should help anyone get started and on the trail.
15:01 matey; ive even tried to find a way that
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15:02 matey; when thousands of people (even a mob!) make accusations about stallman, its newsworthy as fuck
15:02 matey; i did spend (by now, years) looking for evidence they were being honest
15:02 matey; i cant call them liars if i dont look hard for evidence theyre not lying.
15:02 matey; well i could, but thats not how i prefer to do things.
15:03 schestowitz[TR]; I heard the moglen story
15:03 schestowitz[TR]; I wonder who was involved
15:03 schestowitz[TR]; asnd what the threat was
15:03 schestowitz[TR]; some people deserve certain "threats"
15:03 matey; i assume it was sandler but someone may have already denied that
15:03 schestowitz[TR]; but i don't know what he said
15:03 matey; and a guess isnt a fact
15:03 schestowitz[TR]; "threats" like
15:03 schestowitz[TR]; bkuhn, if you keep attacking rms, we cannot have you i the fsf board
15:03 matey; i think categorising it as a threat is the first error
15:04 matey; what if he threatened kuhn?
15:04 matey; note that i was given certain facts (im presuming for now they were facts) here in this chat
15:04 matey; that may narrow it down, so perhaps i knew weeks ago that the person was female, and thus it cant be kuhn
15:04 schestowitz[TR]; claims maybe
15:04 schestowitz[TR]; from rms foe
15:04 schestowitz[TR]; not maine kuhn
15:04 matey; however, this is not a mystery ive devoted time to solving
15:04 matey; its a side issue, albeit interesting
15:05 schestowitz[TR]; the one who issues ACTUAL threats to people
15:05 matey; and it only comes up because of this new sfc campaign
15:05 matey; <schestowitz[TR]> from rms foe <schestowitz[TR]> claims maybe <- a given, yes
15:05 matey; but ive taken that into account (doubts are applied accordingly, but claims are still explored)
15:06 matey; for an early conclusion i can dismiss the whole thing
15:06 matey; but for understanding the story i look into the claims anyway
15:06 matey; theres not a hell of a lot to go on, as far as i know
15:06 matey; but i did look
15:07 matey; even some of the story itself... i find the conflation of what he may have said with "threats" to be an absurd double standard, even cherry picking justice
15:07 matey; but thats based only a description of events-- not quotes, sadly
15:08 matey; but even the description i find a little dubious
15:08 MinceR; lol @ maine kuhn
15:08 matey; imo real "threats" are criminal. if you threaten to fire someone over their actions, and its justified firing
15:08 matey; thats not a threat
15:09 matey; otoh if its over something you have no right to fire someone for, then i would say its a threat
15:09 matey; just as an example
15:09 matey; if you threaten to fire someone because they didnt unbutton their top, calling that a threat is completely justified
15:10 matey; its a threat when someone has no right to do the thing theyre threatening to do
15:10 matey; if they have the right-- its a warning
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15:10 matey; lets use an eric raymondy example
15:10 matey; if you threaten someone with a gun because they havent put money from the cash register into a bag-- thats criminal
15:11 matey; if you threaten someone with a gun because they are pointing one at you-- thats self defence.
15:11 matey; its the same threat, but one is a crime and the other is about something you have a right to do
15:12 MinceR; according to some people, even the second example is a crime
15:12 matey; moglen may have made a "threat" to do something he was entirely in his rights to do-- and a coc wont care about that sort of "nuance"
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15:12 matey; according to some people, even the second example is a crime <- we call those people idiots
15:12 MinceR; because you have no right to use guns to defend yourself, possibly not even to defend yourself in any way, you're supposed to just hope that the police will defend you
15:13 matey; and a coc is an agreement to be such an idiot.
15:13 matey; or at least to pretend youre that stupid.
15:13 MinceR; "dare to be stupid"
15:13 matey; you're supposed to just hope that the <- if someone has a gun in your face, politely ask them if its ok if you call emergency services
15:13 matey; then ask them if they would wait to shoot until someone can arrive to stop them
15:14 matey; "dare to be stupid" <- I CANT HEAR YOU!
15:14 matey; OKAY I CAN HEAR YOU NOW!
15:15 MinceR; :)
15:16 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMhwddNQSWQ
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15:16 TR Bot; https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=SMhwddNQSWQ
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15:16 TR Bot; invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | "Weird Al" Yankovic - Dare To Be Stupid - Invidious
15:16 matey; its like spitting on a fish! its like barking up a tree! its like they say you have to buy one if you want to get one free
15:17 matey; with eric idle as one of the transformers
15:17 matey; i didnt understand the transformers (animated) movie
15:18 matey; nor how weird al ended up on the soundtrack. but thats the 80s for you.
15:18 MinceR; :)
15:19 matey; weird al is the only performer ive seen in concert Twice, once with my wife
15:19 matey; we bought regular tickets, and lucked out. we were close enough to look up his rather large nostrils
15:19 matey; i believe thats the vantage he wants everyone to have
15:19 MinceR; lol
15:20 matey; "you make me" i always considered a filler song until i saw it live
15:21 matey; he puts so much energy into that thing
15:21 matey; when he does it live, its just a little short of being a rock/polka opera.
15:22 *psydroid2 sees "stories" about Raspberry Robin and thinks to himself "oops, they did it again"
15:22 matey; /me cant even imagine what that is, and goes to look it up
15:22 matey; this is about the sbc isnt it
15:23 psydroid2; it's about some Microsoft malware that has conveniently been called "Raspberry Robin"
15:23 matey; Hundreds of Windows Networks Are Infected With Raspberry Robin Worm
15:23 matey; ITS LINUX MALWARE, PEOPLE
15:23 psydroid2; I wonder what the message is supposed to be here
15:23 MinceR; lol
15:23 psydroid2; yes, exactly
15:23 matey; only affects windows LINUX IS INSECURE!
15:23 MinceR; well, apparently windows is linux
15:23 matey; /me goes to look for details (maybe i got it wrong already)
15:24 matey; only pcmag has information on it (that i can find) so i wont read the techrights piece that might not exist yet
15:24 matey; believe me, id rather go to tr than pcmag
15:25 matey; /me puts a new layer of foil on the modem first
15:25 psydroid2; I think this is the most blatant instance of them hijacking a supposed competitor's name
15:26 psydroid2; like why "Raspberry"
15:26 matey; "It's unclear what the infected networks will be used for as no attack has been staged yet." THATS GREAT IT STARTS WITH AN EARTHQUAKE, MOTHERFUCKIN SNAKES ON A MOTHERFUCKIN PLANE, LENNY BRUCE... oh, nvm
15:27 psydroid2; why not "Combustible Irritable Robin"
15:28 matey; By Matthew Humphries
15:28 matey; Matthew Humphries
15:28 matey; Senior Editor
15:28 matey; "are you free, mr humphries?"
15:29 matey; "well thats very subtle, then! i always thought it was mr peacock, hes the one with a moustache!"
15:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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15:30 matey; Microsoft released a private threat intelligence advisory informing organizations that a worm called Raspberry Robin is infecting hundreds of Windows networks. DUM DUM DUM
15:30 matey; microsoft threatened organisations!
15:30 matey; As BleepingComputer reports (oh well it must be true) Raspberry Robin is being spread via infected USB devices. It requires a user to insert the USB device and click a malicious .LNK file
15:31 matey; thats a "worm"?
15:31 matey; it sounds very trojany in nature...
15:31 matey; After that, the worm uses the Windows command prompt to launch an msiexec process
15:32 matey; clicking on malware you install from a usb stick does bad things! <- now you know
15:33 matey; A connection is then established with a command and control server using a short URL, and if successfuly, a number of malicious DLLs are downloaded and installed. <- this is a trojan downloader, not a worm
15:33 matey; The legitimate Windows utility odbcconf.exe is then used to execute the DLLs while the worm repeatedly attempts to connect to Tor network nodes. <- oh, okay
15:33 MinceR; strange that they didn't exploit the AutoRun functionality in windows
15:33 matey; (or)
15:34 MinceR; one of the most boneheaded misfeatures that idiot youtuber whose name i already forgot defended
15:34 matey; this is still a trojan downloader
15:34 matey; not a worm
15:34 matey; youre fired, mr humphries. report to mr peacock immediately.
15:35 psydroid2; lol
15:36 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dqWNG_X0bAQ
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15:36 TR Bot; "Are You Free?" and More of Mr Humphries' Best Bits | Are You Being Served? - Invidious
15:39 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/mrandmrsliteral.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/kris-mrandmrsliteral#comic )
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15:39 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
15:42 TR News; What is this space for? gemini://malobee.smol.pub/what-is-this-space-for
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15:43 TR News; "It is sad to consider not looking in on people I have encountered who live on the other side of the globe or those in my local community who I have only met through online spaces. I feel like I am losing the only way I know to find what was the beautiful promise of the Internet way back when." gemini://malobee.smol.pub/what-is-this-space-for
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15:44 TR News; "I had a job interview at a winery/renaissance faire for the position of Electrical Helper. The guy who interviewed me was the single electrician the company had. Apparently he had been working there a decade and only now they decided it was time he could use a helper." gemini://tilde.team/~smokey/logs/2022-07-04-fireworks.gmi
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15:48 matey; mincer: brits used to say they have a "bat in the cave"
15:48 matey; which doesnt sound too appealing, but i guess babies are often upside down in there, so...
15:49 matey; because the alternative is being born feet first, like a water slide
15:49 MinceR; :>
15:49 MinceR; is it the BatCave?
15:49 matey; lets ask raspberry robin!
15:49 MinceR; lol
15:50 matey; batman, youre going to be a daddy!
15:50 matey; i told you to never call me that when theyre filming, robin...
15:52 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=fIu9nuOl0WU
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15:52 TR Bot; If Batman Came to London #shorts - Invidious
15:53 MinceR; "i came..." "ew!" "...to this city."
15:55 matey; :)
16:07 matey; i dont believe it, bald is back in britain https://yewtu.be/watch?v=7URQ2h5yORs
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16:07 TR Bot; This Is Britain! ( Nation of Madlads ) - Invidious
16:08 matey; he didnt stay long in syria...
16:09 matey; he says the cadbury flake is one of englands greatest chocolates
16:09 matey; ill give it this, its one of the few cadbury products i can stand (galaxy is better)
16:10 matey; cadbury has probably done what hershey did, which is cut corners until its shit
16:10 matey; im not saying brits dont make good chocolate-- im saying cadbury doesnt
16:11 matey; mmmm cornish pasties
16:11 MinceR; strange, the cadbury i tried was some of the finest milk chocolate i had
16:19 matey; when?
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16:19 matey; im sure it was #1 at one point
16:20 MinceR; a couple years ago
16:20 matey; at least in its class
16:20 matey; what kind of bar was it
16:20 matey; dairy milk?
16:20 MinceR; dairy milk
16:21 MinceR; plain and also with various fillings
16:21 matey; i would hope hungary had something better than dairy milk somewhere
16:21 MinceR; it does
16:21 MinceR; we also have milka
16:26 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/teddybear.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/dave-teddybear#comic )
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16:26 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
16:26 matey; theres a guy in this british video who looks exactly like the red swingline stapler guy
16:27 TR News; Mini review of ORICO USB 4.0 M.2 NVMe SSD enclosure Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166834
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16:27 TR Bot; Mini review of ORICO USB 4.0 M.2 NVMe SSD enclosure | Tux Machines
16:27 matey; its uncanny
16:27 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166835
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16:27 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
16:27 psydroid2; https://www.theguardian.com/inequality/2017/sep/15/food-brands-accused-of-selling-inferior-versions-in-eastern-europe
16:27 TR Bot; Food brands 'cheat' eastern European shoppers with inferior products | Inequality | The Guardian
16:28 TR News; TUXEDO Computers Pulse 15 Gen2 Linux laptop is powered by AMD Ryzen 7 5700U with 35W TDP http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166832#comment-34248
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16:28 TR Bot; TUXEDO Pulse 15 Gen2 Linux Ultrabook Out Now with Ryzen 7 5700U, WQHD Display | Tux Machines
16:28 matey; i wish that wasnt common
16:29 matey; its not just eastern europe, its strictly by wealth (i believe)
16:29 matey; for example, in the states hersheys sells chocolate with pgpr
16:29 matey; i consider it poison, either way its incredibly cheap
16:29 matey; hersheys used to be good. now its waxy and disgusting
16:30 TR News; "For no particular reason, Id like on this day to reassert my belief that all systems of minority rule are illegitimate." gemini://degrowther.smol.pub/20220704_minority_rule
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16:30 MinceR; who cares, they lipolyze the milk they use in their "chocolate"
16:30 matey; it was never top of the line, i do like middle-of-the-road chocolate as much as anyone
16:30 MinceR; there's no way that could possibly turn out well, and it doesn't
16:30 matey; at least you put it in quotes
16:30 TR News; The Cooperative Principle gemini://idiomdrottning.org/cooperative-principle
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16:31 matey; but the point is, if you want pgpr and you avoid hershey (which owns like half the brands of chocolate bar, including cadbury stateside-- but you can get the real thing important as well) then you are avoiding pgpr
16:31 matey; its cheap and gross and i think its unhealthy
16:32 matey; nestle and mars dont use it
16:32 matey; now, go to the brazillian shops-- the local ones with importanted brazillian chocolate
16:32 matey; imported too
16:32 MinceR; there's a british store here
16:32 matey; every brand of chocolate has pgpr-- no exceptions
16:32 matey; including nestle
16:32 matey; nestle doesnt use it in the states-- it uses it in brazil
16:33 matey; i found a store full of indian imports not long ago
16:33 matey; i looked at every single brand of chocolate they had
16:33 matey; the most popular one i know is amul
16:33 matey; its all got pgpr, once again, including the nestle stuff
16:34 matey; i dont think it only applies to chocolate
16:34 MinceR; so, what's the danger in PGPR?
16:34 matey; same brand in different countries-- they make cheaper versions
16:34 matey; so, what's the danger in PGPR? <- i mean i consider it an insult first and foremost. i dont know a living soul who got sick eating it
16:34 matey; but you can smoke for decades and it wont kill you.
16:34 matey; allegedly, too much pgpr will make your liver swell.
16:35 MinceR; i haven't even heard of PGPR before
16:35 matey; polyglycerol polyricino...late something
16:35 matey; it has an e-number so you probably know it by that
16:35 MinceR; i looked it up
16:35 MinceR; all i could find was that it's generally recognized as safe
16:35 matey; 498?
16:35 matey; good old gras
16:35 MinceR; i didn't look up the E-number
16:35 matey; but they didnt have it in anything when i was a kid
16:36 matey; or a teen
16:36 matey; i swear i never saw it until 10 years ago
16:36 MinceR; i don't see how that's relevant
16:36 MinceR; there were many things that weren't available here when i was a kid
16:36 matey; whats relevant is-- they put it in to make it cheaper
16:36 MinceR; back when hungary was a colony of the previous orcish empire
16:36 matey; its allegedly got nasty side effects
16:36 matey; it does nothing to benefit the person eating the chocolate, and its suddenly pervasive
16:37 matey; now when you put those together, gras doesnt really make me feel better
16:37 MinceR; allegedly they put it in to reduce viscosity
16:37 matey; at one point, cigarettes were gras!
16:37 matey; well, not in the official sense. just that fucking doctors endorsed them
16:37 matey; i mean there was no "gras"
16:37 MinceR; from which follows that everything is poison
16:37 matey; allegedly they put it in to reduce viscosity <- yeah it makes it flow into the mould more easily
16:38 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Re6pZri8Gw
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16:38 TR Bot; https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=_Re6pZri8Gw
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16:38 matey; when you make shitty chocolate (proper chocolate flows into moulds just fine)
16:38 TR Bot; inv.bp.projectsegfau.lt | All The Food is Poison | Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Great Job! | Adult Swim - Invidious
16:38 matey; so i dont know, maybe its fine
16:38 matey; i dont trust it and i dont want it-- and they only put it in inferior chocolate anyway
16:38 matey; ill still eat a 3 musketeers, im not a connoissour
16:39 matey; i just dont want to pay for shit
16:39 matey; and if it proves to be unhealthy to the-- the relevance of it being new is
16:39 MinceR; :)
16:39 matey; id be more comfortable if people had eaten for generations and not had liver damage, right?
16:39 matey; right now they swear it wont
16:40 MinceR; i'm not sure if we have "generations" to test this anyway
16:40 matey; id rather have a few more years of data on this, since theres nothing actually good about it and potentially
16:40 MinceR; hell, i doubt i'll live long enough for PGPR to have any ill effects on me
16:40 matey; i'm not sure if we have "generations" to test this anyway <- i mean in that event we can all eat like bill murray in groundhog day
16:41 matey; originally i was saying though, i dont think this is just an eastern europe thing
16:42 matey; they make shitty versions of international brands everywhere theres a high enough percentage of poor people
16:42 MinceR; well, the USA and brazil aren't eastern europe
16:42 TR News; Links 04/07/2022: Chinas Journey to GNU/Linux Continues, openSUSE.Asia Summit 2022 Planned | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/04/opensuse-asia-summit/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/04/opensuse-asia-summit/
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16:42 TR Bot; Links 04/07/2022: Chinas Journey to GNU/Linux Continues, openSUSE.Asia Summit 2022 Planned | Techrights
16:42 matey; (i think brazil probably qualifies)
16:42 MinceR; hungary is geographically eastern europe, culturally middle asia
16:42 matey; like siberia in reverse
16:43 matey; geographically asia, culturally eastern europe
16:44 matey; i have mixed feelings about this quality thing
16:44 matey; on the one hand, its fucked to do that to people
16:44 matey; on the other, if it makes these things more affordable
16:44 matey; i still think its fucked though
16:44 MinceR; i doubt that siberia is culturally eastern europe
16:45 MinceR; if it was, they would have killed their overlords alread
16:45 MinceR; y
16:47 TR News; Security and Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt (FUD) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166836
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16:47 TR Bot; Security and Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt (FUD) | Tux Machines
16:47 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166837
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16:47 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
16:54 *psydroid2 wants some of that Batman and Robin Chocolate
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.51 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.68 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
17:32 TR News; SpellBinding: AELNOUP Wordo: PLUMB gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-07-04.gmi
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17:33 matey; you think its culturally asian ACTION wants some of that Batman and Robin Chocolate <- nah, it tastes like it spent the day in the pocket of a rubber suit
17:34 matey; although thats not always a dealbreaker
17:35 matey; with these caramels its part of the appeal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goetze%27s_Candy_Company
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17:35 TR Bot; Goetze's Candy Company - Wikipedia
17:35 matey; not to be confused with goat.se
17:36 matey; if they ever make caramels, just run
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17:39 schestowitz[TR]; "don't click bro"
17:39 matey; incidentally, keeping chocolate from tasting like rubber is the original reason the utility belt was invented
17:39 matey; willy wonka wanted one, but negotiations fell apart once "edible suit" was mentioned
17:42 schestowitz[TR]; "who you call wonka??"
17:48 matey; WHERE ARE THE OTHER CANDIES GOING
17:48 matey; they should have handicaps in chess like they do in golf
17:49 matey; like if youre playing someone new, they should get a queen (or maybe a bishop or rook) that takes up 2x2 squares on the board
17:49 matey; if their piece lands on any piece occupying its squares...
17:49 matey; this would make chess way more fun for newbies
17:50 matey; i was imagining what chess was like before "regulation standards"
17:50 matey; and thought maybe the pieces werent all 1x1 in size
17:51 matey; maybe some boards had a larger number of squares
17:51 matey; obvious 3d chess exists
17:52 matey; steamcommunity.com/app/1769470/
17:52 matey; Non-Euclidean Chess provides a chess engine with boards and piece movement that push, bend, and sometimes defy reality. Play locally or online vs. other players or AI
17:52 matey; and then theres this
17:52 matey; https://3dmixers.com/m/7666-non-euclidean-chess-board-sphere
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17:52 TR Bot; "Non-Euclidean Chess Board (Sphere)" thing to 3d print
17:54 matey; The simplest way to transform a standard board into a non-Euclidean board is to connect the sides of the board together. Connecting the squares on adjacent sides to each other creates a board with an inherently spherical topology. In contrast, connecting the squares on opposite sides can lead to a board with a toroidal structure.
17:55 matey; kmemhacte!
17:55 matey; wow that looks russian af
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17:56 matey; /me translates it to "keep off the grass"
18:00 MinceR; 04 184955 < matey> this would make chess way more fun for newbies
18:00 MinceR; strategy games are already way more fun than chess could ever hope to be
18:01 MinceR; and they're also more complex and less likely to have a winning strategy
18:04 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/you-kids.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/rob-you-kids#comic )
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18:04 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
18:04 matey; strategy games are already way more fun than chess could ever hope to be <- chess has an obvious timelessness
18:04 MinceR; it's not obvious
18:04 MinceR; at least i'm not seeing it
18:05 TR News; Microsoft Windows is Now Down to Single-Digit Market Share in Turkey Owing to the Nations Independence/Digital Autonomy Objectives | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/04/windows-single-digit/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/04/windows-single-digit/
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18:05 matey; what would you consider timeless other than having an incredible footprint on the calendar / history
18:06 matey; not to mention its geographic relevance
18:06 matey; though i suppose go is more intriguing to some. my wife played go, tried to teach me.
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18:07 matey; when i say im not a gamer, i mean just about any kind.
18:07 MinceR; to me, timeless is not the same as ancient
18:07 matey; fair enough
18:07 matey; i dont know what it is, but that doesnt mean its not reasonable
18:07 MinceR; :)
18:07 matey; to you, i mean. i dont know what it is to you
18:08 matey; i mean a number of people consider billie holiday timeless
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18:08 matey; i can see it, but either way shes been around a lot less than chess
18:09 matey; and i never knew this before 2 minutes ago
18:09 matey; billie holiday played chess with dizzy gillespie
18:10 matey; https://www.chessmaniac.com/musicians-and-chess/
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18:10 TR Bot; and Chess ChessManiac
18:14 matey; strategy games are already way more fun than chess could ever hope to be <- whats the most fun strategy game you ever played
18:14 matey; or something from the top 5
18:15 MinceR; either Total Annihilation or one of its derivatives or Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
18:15 matey; hmm sid meier
18:16 matey; oh yeah the civilisation guy
18:16 MinceR; yeah
18:16 MinceR; SMAC is kind of the continuation of the corresponding Civilization game
18:16 matey; i think ive played some ripoffs he inspired
18:17 matey; i dont doubt it
18:17 MinceR; Civilization can end by building a space ship to send humans to Alpha Centauri
18:17 MinceR; and SMAC kind of picks up when they arrive
18:19 matey; "Anyone remember that really old game Outpost? It ran on Windows 3.1; used a CD recording of The Planets as its soundtrack. That's the first time I've heard of Tokamak reactors. What these are trying to achieve is pretty amazing. I hope one day, one of these reactors will be able to sustain a greater output than input."
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18:19 TR News; meme-windows-spotted-in-a-classroom-in-turkey | Gemini address: meme-windows-spotted-in-a-classroom-in-turkey
18:19 matey; "That's the first time I've heard of Tokamak reactors." <- me too
18:19 TR News; [Meme] Windows Spotted in a Classroom in Turkey | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/04/windows-market-share-in-turkey/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/04/windows-market-share-in-turkey/
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18:20 matey; Welcome to the Outpost Universe wiki, where all information on the games Outpost, Outpost 2: Divided Destiny, and community projects set in the established Outpost Universe can be found. https://wiki.outpost2.net/doku.php
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18:20 TR Bot; start [Outpost Universe Wiki]
18:21 matey; by combining play with an actual story, and a more interesting / complex objective than "beat the king" i can see how anyone would think strategy games are more fun than chess
18:21 matey; im not actually a huge chess fan myself
18:22 MinceR; there are many other things they can do too
18:22 MinceR; fog of war and randomization help avoid having a winning strategy
18:22 matey; i think basketball is torturously boring to watch, (making me roughly the opposite of steve ballmer, who seems to have a sexual fetish for it)
18:22 MinceR; base building lets you choose what units to work
18:23 matey; but i dont think i have the attention span for most strategy games to entertain me
18:23 MinceR; they can offer units that do things like detect units at a longer range, jam radar, build things, heal other units, capture enemy units, etc.
18:23 matey; and ive been talking about github for how many years now.
18:23 TR News; Markdown instead of LaTeX gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-07-04%20Markdown%20instead%20of%20LaTeX
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18:23 matey; chess i can relate to at least. but like games in general, i suck at it
18:23 matey; i find it very difficult to hone a skill that only exists technically within a fictional construct
18:24 matey; (i dont really care about money either)
18:24 MinceR; also, ranged attacks usually exist
18:24 MinceR; (they're very limited in SMAC though)
18:24 matey; (i do in a very concrete way, but not the way more ambitious people do)
18:24 matey; the skills used in gaming are real, and CAN be applied in non-fictional settings
18:25 matey; so its not that theyre useless
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18:25 matey; but if im going to hone them in a fictional setting, id simply rather do that in a real one
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18:25 matey; like exercise is tedious enough when its real-- exercising in a game just feels like an insane thing to do
18:26 matey; walkthroughs are the greatest thing ever, because when it comes to games i usually just want to see the story / settings
18:26 MinceR; setting often influences how fun gameplay is
18:27 matey; ive had friends with ps4s and everything older
18:27 matey; sometimes even watching is boring
18:27 MinceR; for example, i've found Arena FPS-es (typically futuristic) to be much more fun than Tactical FPS-es (typically down-to-earth with pretensions of realism)
18:27 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166838
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18:27 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
18:27 TR News; #HowTo enhance Firefox security with about:config tweaks Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166839
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18:27 matey; thats because you hate it here
18:27 TR Bot; How to enhance Firefox security with about:config tweaks | Tux Machines
18:27 MinceR; and i've found SMAC to be more fun than Civilization, and i think the ancient technology you'll encounter in most of the latter isn't necessarily more useful than a fictional setting
18:28 matey; of course i also prefer futuristic settings
18:28 MinceR; no, it's because i like to be able to move around, i like variety in weapons and i like interesting level design
18:28 matey; fair enough
18:28 matey; i swear you can do those in real life (at least until you get caught)
18:28 MinceR; not the usual moving like molasses in the winter, using simple hitscan weapons and maybe a few nearly useless kinds of grenades on flat levels that mostly look the same
18:28 matey; so a game with pretensions of realism....
18:29 matey; not the usual moving like molasses in the winter, using simple hitscan weapons and maybe a few nearly useless kinds of grenades <- again, fair enough
18:29 MinceR; those pretensions usually fall flat
18:29 matey; pretensions typically do
18:29 MinceR; for example, a bug that enables unrealistically fast movement exists in most tFPS-es
18:29 matey; the minute you see the real thing you look at the pretense and go "im sorry, and you are?"
18:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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18:31 matey; i imagine that if you talk to elon musk, then talk to one of his scientists
18:31 matey; the difference is dramatic af
18:31 MinceR; indeed
18:31 matey; you can tell elon musk from a rocket scientist immediately
18:31 matey; as sure as you can tell dilbert from phb
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18:33 matey; steve ballmer may even play basketball
18:33 matey; i hope he puts some clothes on
18:33 MinceR; i hope he dies painfully
18:33 matey; "i dont want to feel anything between me and the game!"
18:33 matey; i hope he dies painfully <- you cant be the only one
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18:41 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Glad we never go do anything.
18:41 DaemonFC; There was a mass shooting at the fourth of july parade a couple towns over.
18:41 DaemonFC; 5 dead, 16 inuured
18:42 MinceR; just make sure you have guns and body armor
18:42 DaemonFC; News reports it as "parade interrupted due to police activity".
18:42 MinceR; then you can do the mass shooting
18:42 MinceR; (oh, also, ammo)
18:42 DaemonFC; MinceR, Oh, Illinois is pretty stupid you know.
18:42 DaemonFC; It's illegal to wear body armor even if you have a conceal and carry license if you're concealed carrying.
18:43 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/14011256
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18:43 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living http://i.imgur.com/lJbv0gH.gif created on 2014-01-12 13:18:12.763831
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18:43 MinceR; lol
18:43 DaemonFC; They don't care if you get killed by a hail of bullets. What they do care about is if you make it difficult for the cops to do that to you.
18:43 MinceR; i guess that's another trick they pulled in their attempts to violate the second amendment
18:43 DaemonFC; They're so bad that they need to fire off 100 rounds to hit you a few times, usually.
18:43 MinceR; it's more difficult to overthrow tyrants if their goons are armored and you aren't
18:44 DaemonFC; Pretty much. Illinois makes "cop killer bullets" illegal, but you can buy them in other states easily and bring them here.
18:44 DaemonFC; I've found them laying on the street in Waukegan before.
18:45 DaemonFC; You can also make them yourself.
18:45 DaemonFC; It doesn't matter what the laws are. That bill signing ceremony Pritzker had to ban "ghost guns" (3d printed) was just theatrics.
18:45 DaemonFC; It will not make dent in the number recovered at crime scenes.
18:46 DaemonFC; It will make absolutely no difference in what the prosecutors and the judges do in court.
18:46 DaemonFC; So why sign something like that? It's optics. It's people who are so smart, they're stupid again.
18:46 DaemonFC; Like Matt GULAG.
18:47 DaemonFC; People who think that politicians are going to control the weather and fix the economy at bill signing ceremonies think that's what you do about guns too.
18:47 MinceR; :>
18:50 DaemonFC; MinceR, According to the state police, they verified the address that's on the FOID card I already have.
18:50 DaemonFC; And a FOID card that is exactly the same is awaiting printing.
18:50 DaemonFC; I'm glad that I'm no longer a menace to south central because I paid the cops five bucks.
18:50 MinceR; :>
18:52 matey; Communities cancel 4th of July events following shooting at Highland Park Parade
18:52 matey; i think its an odd response consider theyre celebrating the results of a LOT of shooting
18:52 MinceR; :>
18:52 matey; /me isnt just being pithy
18:53 matey; ok thats it mostly, but seriously
18:53 matey; from a safety standpoint of course it makes perfect sense
18:53 matey; there WAS one shooting (5 dead, 19 in hospital) in illinois
18:54 matey; there COULD be others, better safe right
18:55 matey; politically though, this is backwards
18:55 matey; people who really believe the 4th means something should i dunno, maybe stand their ground
18:55 matey; only if they want to of course
18:55 DaemonFC; Dollars to donuts, this is not a terrorist attack. It's just more gang crime.
18:55 matey; if it becomes the run away and be safe holiday, its really jumped the shark
18:56 DaemonFC; They're not smart enough to plan or coordinate an attack. One of them gets pissed off, they all start shooting at each other. It's totally random.
18:56 matey; theyre setting off fireworks to commemmorate cannonballs and explosions
18:57 matey; they could have simply upped security
18:57 matey; (and you have to wonder how it failed in the first place)
18:57 DaemonFC; That incident where a store employee asked that woman to wear a face mask, so her boyfriend came back in and shot the employee for "dissing his woman" is the common mentality of those folks.
18:57 DaemonFC; So anything could have caused this.
18:58 DaemonFC; That's why you can't have anything nice in a place like this.
18:58 matey; but then again, this is illinois, right?
18:58 DaemonFC; They keep having to close Six Flags down for the day because of riots involving "teenagers".
18:58 DaemonFC; but then again, this is illinois, right?
18:58 DaemonFC; Give that man a cigar.
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.51 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.68 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
18:59 DaemonFC; MARISOL got into trouble with her creditors and ended up buying Six Flags season passes so they could go there and eat every day.
19:00 DaemonFC; When she was in Spain yelling at Mandy for not cleaning her house fast enough over the Ring or whatever it is, they didn't leave him any money for food. They just tossed him a wristband so he could go to Six Flags on the bus and get a hamburger meal.
19:01 matey; heres part of what im thinking though
19:01 matey; ive been to WAY less important holiday-related events that included Snipers On Roofs and even helicopters circling telling people to go to their homes
19:02 matey; im talking about fucking halloween here
19:02 matey; if halloween can have snipers on the roof "just to be safe" why couldnt that have kept this holiday going?
19:03 matey; this is a technical (tactical) question
19:04 matey; and as for danger to life and limb
19:04 matey; new years tops this by far
19:05 matey; theyre not likely to cancel new years
19:05 matey; "maybe next year, sorry"
19:06 matey; its not that i consider the holiday sacrosanct
19:06 matey; it is weird that people are willing to put more on the line for new years and halloween though
19:06 DaemonFC; They shut down the public transit. The entire county is locking down.
19:07 DaemonFC; This is like the Boston Marathon Bombing where they shut everything down and said stay in your homes.
19:09 matey; these are the same people who refuse to stop going to restaurants while the hospitals are full
19:09 matey; so theres no rhyme or reason, its arbitrary
19:09 matey; theres literally more danger every single day
19:09 matey; but people suck at math, like i do
19:10 TR News; Gemini is Becoming Increasingly Interconnected and Adopts More Modern Encryption Protocols | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/04/gemini-incoming-links/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/04/gemini-incoming-links/
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19:10 TR Bot; Gemini is Becoming Increasingly Interconnected and Adopts More Modern Encryption Protocols | Techrights
19:14 TR News; Techrights will exceed 34,000 blog posts later this week
19:16 DaemonFC; The news has stopped talking about COVID and has gone to wall to wall monkeypox, schestowitz
19:16 DaemonFC; 1 person in Illinois has monkeypox.
19:16 DaemonFC; Of course they're in Lake County, because of course they are.
19:18 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/2022/07/01/1108354846/july-4th-2022-party-costs
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19:18 TR Bot; July 4th parties cost more in 2022 but there are ways to save : NPR
19:18 schestowitz[TR]; https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/05/investigative-reports/monkeypox-fears-may-rescue-endangered-corporations/
19:18 TR Bot; MonkeypoxFearsMay RescueEndangeredCorporations
19:18 DaemonFC; Save by not having one
19:18 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], They could just offer the Smallpox vaccines we already have to people.
19:18 DaemonFC; But they're not going to.
19:19 DaemonFC; They're buying expensive monkeypox vaccines instead, which they won't be able to produce fast enough to make any difference.
19:20 TR News; COVID-19 hospitlisation numbers already FIVE days behind because Borisnaro decided that update for the public ONCE IN SEVEN DAYS is enough (while coronavirus is surging) https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare?areaType=nation&areaName=England
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19:20 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare?areaType=nation&areaName=England )
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19:21 matey; That billionaire, corporate raider Ron Perelman, has deep and controversial ties to the Clinton family and the Democratic party as well as troubling ties to Jeffery Epstein. Aside from his controlling stake in SIGA, Perelman has recently made headlines for rapidly liquidating many of his assets in a desperate bid for cash.
19:21 matey; FTW
19:21 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/funny-pictures-5-23-22-2.jpg
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19:21 matey; is unlimitedhangout a right wing website?
19:21 matey; ive seen it mentioned here before
19:22 matey; i (really) dont care if its right wing or not, im just curious because "deep and controversial ties to the Clinton family and the Democratic party as well as troubling ties to Jeffery Epstein"
19:22 matey; i dont like the clinton family more than anyone else
19:22 matey; im no fan of the democrats either
19:22 matey; but it is usually the republicans who phrase it that way
19:22 DaemonFC; MinceR, Did you see those protests in Europe over the politicians that want to shut down farms because there's "too much nitrogen in the soil"?
19:23 MinceR; no
19:23 matey; the story itself is interesting
19:23 DaemonFC; It's completely stupid.
19:23 matey; no <- no?
19:23 DaemonFC; Like, they want to shut down farms in the middle of this over "global warming".
19:23 matey; "deep and controversial ties to the Clinton family and the Democratic party as well as troubling ties to Jeffery Epstein" <- i dont necessarily even disagree with this
19:23 MinceR; 04 202314 < matey> no <- no? <- no.
19:23 matey; it simply made me wonder if-- oh, is that the question you were answering?
19:24 MinceR; it was an answer to DaemonFC's question
19:24 DaemonFC; The EU is pretty goddamned stupid.
19:24 DaemonFC; They think they can just stop producing anything and just buy everything they need elsewhere.
19:24 MinceR; i can't tell if the EU is more stupid or the governments of hungary and poland are
19:24 DaemonFC; Because that's totally how money works.
19:24 TR News; Windows is at 9.8% of the market this month in Turkey, based on a Web survey (3 million sites); we might be seeing the gradual end of Windows as a financially viable product line http://techrights.org/2022/07/04/windows-single-digit/
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19:24 TR Bot; Microsoft Windows is Now Down to Single-Digit Market Share in Turkey Owing to the Nations Independence/Digital Autonomy Objectives | Techrights
19:24 MinceR; that particular brand of stupidity is pretty widespread though
19:24 MinceR; the USA has it too
19:24 TR News; Windows market share in Turkey is down to 9.8% this month; itll become a rare sight if these trends carry on http://techrights.org/2022/07/04/windows-market-share-in-turkey/
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19:24 TR Bot; [Meme] Windows Spotted in a Classroom in Turkey | Techrights
19:25 matey; it could be a fair fight
19:25 MinceR; that's why they outsourced so much manufacturing to red china
19:25 matey; well, that and global nafta-like trade agreements
19:25 DaemonFC; Europe thinks they can shut down their own manufacturing, agriculture, and everything else too.
19:25 DaemonFC; And do what?
19:25 TR News; US funds software for Russians to slip past censors https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220703-us-funds-software-for-russians-to-slip-past-censors
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19:25 TR Bot; US funds software for Russians to slip past censors
19:25 matey; acta, tpp, cafta, korean fta, nafta of course
19:25 MinceR; and become beholden to others
19:25 DaemonFC; What will people want Euros for if the economies that it represents can't even grow a damned potato?
19:25 matey; the idea was (very stupidly) to move to an ip-based economy
19:26 TR News; CERT-In rules: Data privacy and security not mutually exclusive https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/voices/cert-in-rules-data-privacy-and-security-not-mutually-exclusive/
19:26 MinceR; ip man-based economy
19:26 TR Bot; CERT-In rules: Data privacy and security not mutually exclusive
19:26 matey; move all the physical stuff to where its cheaper (sort of like the south in the 1800s)
19:26 matey; and make them all sign agreements to honour american copyright/patents/trademarks
19:26 matey; they get jobs, and america gets paid to staff boardrooms and buy peoples ideas
19:26 DaemonFC; Mandriva was ahead of its time, schestowitz[TR] I think they would have probably done a lot better today.
19:27 DaemonFC; "Linux" didn't get big enough on the desktop to start appearing in statistics counters until around 2013 or so.
19:27 matey; imagine an economy based exclusively on hollywood deals with no physical work (apart from food services and hospitals)
19:27 matey; clinton era by the way
19:27 matey; bruce layman.
19:27 TR News; Debian 9 Long Term Support reaching end-of-life http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166765#comment-34249
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19:27 TR Bot; Debian 9 (Stretch) Reached End-Of-Life, an Explanation of the Maintenance Model | Tux Machines
19:27 matey; he was supposedly the engineer
19:28 DaemonFC; But on Web servers, "Linux" was always bigger than it is on the desktop, but as they say "This town ain't big enough for the both of us!".
19:28 matey; nafta wasnt a trade agreement, it was an attempt to turn the economy upside down entirely
19:28 matey; it worked
19:28 matey; all the factories are chinese and americans dont have work
19:28 DaemonFC; At least back then it was a much smaller market and so it didn't promote lots of sources for your software. Just one or two big ones.
19:28 matey; PLUS IT SOUNDS RACIST TO SAY SO!
19:28 matey; you dont want factories moved from your country to places where theyll have slave labour? RACIST!
19:29 matey; the whole thing fucked every country it moved things to, AND every country that agreed
19:29 DaemonFC; MinceR, "The functional capacity of this town is not large enough to accomodate our combined mass."
19:29 matey; the only beneficiaries were large corporations
19:29 DaemonFC; (Isaac, The Orville)
19:29 matey; and here we are
19:29 matey; bruce layman. the economic hitler.
19:29 *matey has quit (connection closed)
19:30 DaemonFC; Ron White was talking about his cousin who was some kind of pervert who liked obese women.
19:30 DaemonFC; So he went looking for them at the Golden Corral.
19:30 MinceR; :)
19:30 DaemonFC; They got their dresses at the Dress Barn.
19:31 DaemonFC; So he'd corral them at the Golden Corral and get clothes for them at the Dress Barn.
19:31 DaemonFC; Until they got so big they'd have to wear the barn to the corral.
19:33 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/07/01/1095294993/medical-bills-debt-relief
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19:33 TR Bot; How to avoid costly medical bills and get out of medical debt : Shots - Health News : NPR
19:33 DaemonFC; BANKRUPTCY
19:34 DaemonFC; How to avoid costly medical bills.
19:34 DaemonFC; Move to a real country and get out of this chickenshit outfit.
19:35 DaemonFC; "Lori Mangum was 32 when apple-sized tumors sprouted on her head."
19:35 DaemonFC; Possibly due to putting Apple devices up to her head.
19:35 MinceR; :>
19:36 DaemonFC; "If you're worried about incurring debt during a health crisis or are struggling to deal with bills you already have, you're not alone. Some 100 million people including 41% of U.S. adults have health care debt, according to a recent survey by KFF (Kaiser Family Foundation)."
19:36 DaemonFC; Yes, and none of them want to do anything about that because "they don't want to give people a free ride".
19:36 DaemonFC; Including mom, who is never not paying a hospital.
19:37 DaemonFC; Like, she still owes the one in Huntington for putting a band-aid on her thumb when she cut the tip of it off, and not giving her an ibuprofen, and telling her to go home.
19:37 DaemonFC; That means knowing the ins and outs of various policies whether it's your insurance coverage, or a hospital's financial assistance program, or a state's consumer protection laws. Ask a lot of questions and persist. "Don't take 'no' for an answer," said Cordova, "because sometimes you might get a 'yes'."
19:37 DaemonFC; LOL
19:38 DaemonFC; "As I stood there bleeding out from a gunshot wound, I carefully examined all 419 pages of my health insurance Explanation of Benefits. I then proceeded to their Web site to make sure which hospitals would be covered and at what rates.
19:39 DaemonFC; "If you're uninsured but need health care, you might qualify for public insurance like Medicaid or Medicare. Ask the provider or hospital if they can help you check your eligibility before you commit to a care plan and then stay with providers who participate in those programs."
19:39 DaemonFC; I would like to commit to a cancer treatment plan, but I need your help figuring out what Medicaid pays for.
19:39 DaemonFC; Doctor: "Well, they don't cover half of what you need and we don't take it, but your heirs will find out what Estate Clawback is after you die.".
19:40 DaemonFC; "if the drug you want isn't covered by your insurance, ask whether the drugmaker has a patient assistance program; many do, though eligibility requirements vary."
19:41 DaemonFC; If the drug you want....
19:41 DaemonFC; Like, who fucking writes these things?
19:41 DaemonFC; Isn't everyone going to want the drug that best treats the condition they have?
19:42 DaemonFC; "Almost every hospital offers some form of financial assistance, or "charity care." Each hospital sets its own eligibility requirements but typically will waive or discount bills for patients earning less than two to three times the federal poverty level. (Three times the federal poverty level for a household of four in 2022 would be $83,250.)"
19:43 DaemonFC; After they sent me $14,000 in bills for the ER visit for the seizures in 2009, they said they'd waive the entire thing if I signed up for Indiana Medicaid and was denied.
19:43 DaemonFC; So I signed up and they denied me, and I showed it to the hospital billing department, and.....they turned the entire amount over to collections anyway and threatened to sue me.
19:44 DaemonFC; I told the lady at the collection agency "I have a cheap apartment, a cat, a 1995 Ford Taurus that breaks down every month, and maybe a couple thousand in the bank that is exempt from garnishment, so hit me with your best shot."
19:45 DaemonFC; MinceR, See what most people don't get is, our system is set up so no matter how much you earn, you don't get to keep it.
19:45 DaemonFC; Something will always happen.
19:46 DaemonFC; You earn more, they take away government benefits and open you up to garnishment creditors.
19:46 DaemonFC; So really, what's the point in squirming? You get a college degree and earn more money. Have fun with that.
19:50 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/highland-park-parade-shooting/police-respond-to-incident-at-highland-park-fourth-of-july-parade/
19:50 TR Bot; Highland Park shooting: 6 dead, 24 injured in Fourth of July parade shooting
19:51 DaemonFC; Meanwhile, three times as many people have died or were wounded in Chicago this weekend and it barely got any mention at all.
19:51 DaemonFC; Lake County is on lockdown because some white people got shot in Highland Park.
19:52 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/chicagocrime/over-60-shot-15-fatally-in-violent-july-fourth-weekend-in-chicago/
19:52 TR Bot; Chicago 4th of July Shootings: Over 60 shot, 15 killed since Thursday
19:52 DaemonFC; 60 mostly peaceful shootings in Chicago this July 4th weekend.
19:52 DaemonFC; With 15 mostly peaceful deaths.
19:53 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], This is like those knifings in China that they're not allowed to report on.
19:53 DaemonFC; "Revenge on Society" attacks are a big problem in China, but the media of course doesn't mention it.
19:53 DaemonFC; The police just come grab the bodies and then the shopping mall is open again quickly with no mention of what just happened.
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20:12 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: b52s for peace
20:12 schestowitz[TR]; dropping leaflets
20:12 schestowitz[TR]; lots and lots of heavy leaflets
20:12 schestowitz[TR]; to make sure they "get thee message"
20:12 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Mild COVID deaths and mostly peaceful shootings.
20:13 TR News; This is not a review, Crystal Crowder, you've become a marketing spammer https://www.maketecheasier.com/review/tronsmart-onyx-ace-pro-true-wireless-earbuds/
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20:13 TR Bot; Tronsmart Onyx Ace Pro True Wireless Earbuds Review - Make Tech Easier
20:13 DaemonFC; I'm glad we live in such a well adjusted country that we can have mild and mostly peaceful things like this.
20:14 techrights_guest|83; Helo. I was in here yesterday . I wanted to find out if there is a way to run irc from cl without a client . I am on debian (devuan). i read the debian wiki on this however it mostly lists out using a client for irc. Is there a way to set it up just irc in cl?
20:14 XRevan86; techrights_guest|83: Without a client? What's going to provide presence?
20:15 techrights_guest|83; I am not well versed in irc, just asking if possible. if not that fine.
20:15 techrights_guest|83; a client is absoutely nessesary then yes?
20:15 XRevan86; techrights_guest|83: IRC absolutely needs something active present in the channels.
20:16 techrights_guest|83; ok. so what client is the least probematic?
20:16 SomeH4x0r; this ergo shit probably has /history
20:16 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166840
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20:16 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
20:16 XRevan86; techrights_guest|83: TUI one? WeeChat then?
20:16 SomeH4x0r; or irssi
20:16 SomeH4x0r; weechat used more CPU for some reason
20:17 XRevan86; Never measured them, so not going to argue.
20:17 schestowitz[TR]; techrights_guest|83> apt-get install xchat
20:17 techrights_guest|83; ok what client does this irc run on? it works well .
20:17 schestowitz[TR]; or hexchat
20:17 techrights_guest|83; ok.
20:17 techrights_guest|83; I watched the video yesterday on the gemini update and adoption.
20:17 schestowitz[TR]; the details to enter for the network as in ttp://techrights.org/irc-channel/
20:17 XRevan86; (don't do "xchat", hexchat is fine, also it's GTK)
20:18 schestowitz[TR]; thyere is also xchat-gnome
20:18 XRevan86; techrights_guest|83: "this irc" <- This IRC server?
20:18 schestowitz[TR]; I lost track of which one has which features
20:18 schestowitz[TR]; i nfell in love with quassel too
20:18 schestowitz[TR]; but it's a bit advance for new users
20:19 XRevan86; schestowitz: It's incredibly dead, so probably not a good idea to recommend to a new user.
20:19 schestowitz[TR]; *advanced
20:19 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: which one? xchat?
20:19 schestowitz[TR]; the forks/successors are OK
20:19 XRevan86; schestowitz: I meant xchat-gnome, but actually both.
20:19 schestowitz[TR]; quassel and konversation are qt
20:19 schestowitz[TR]; some DEs don't have qt
20:20 techrights_guest|83; I am running xfce. I have seen the ones mentioned here in the repository.
20:20 XRevan86; Qt is something that can adapt to GTK-based environments pretty well.
20:20 schestowitz[TR]; xfce uses gtk
20:21 XRevan86; schestowitz: Toolkit-wise HexChat is actually a worse choice, because it's GTK 2.
20:21 schestowitz[TR]; ok, techrights_guest|83 , try quassel
20:21 *schestowitz[TR] checks if quassel does config files
20:23 techrights_guest|83; thank you for the input . I will work on this today.
20:23 schestowitz[TR]; the key bits you need are address
20:23 techrights_guest|83; with Ca state drafting a bill to require id for visiting a website, If this passes I am thinking a bigger adoption of gemini will take place.
20:23 schestowitz[TR]; the port numbers are the default ones anyway
20:23 schestowitz[TR]; yes, gemini and irc have things in common
20:24 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: are you compiling any of these for distros?
20:24 XRevan86; schestowitz: No, I'm more of an XMPP person.
20:25 XRevan86; And they have enough people.
20:25 schestowitz[TR]; not far off then
20:25 schestowitz[TR]; we used kopete and pidgin a lot
20:26 TR News; "In this video, I am going to show an overview of ArcoLinux 22.07.03 and some of the applications pre-installed." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=j7tmj1q_LOs
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20:26 TR Bot; ArcoLinux 22.07.03 overview | an Arch Linux based distro - Invidious
20:26 XRevan86; Pidgin is still kicking, but it's stagnating because of its library-based design.
20:27 XRevan86; Pretty unfortunate.
20:27 schestowitz[TR]; purple
20:28 TR News; "While Tor has many features that average browsers can not compete with, its flaws can weigh it down for the average user." https://linuxsecurity.com/features/which-browser-is-best-for-online-security
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20:28 TR Bot; Which Browser is Best for Online Security?
20:28 XRevan86; Yea, they need to get the API change right the first time, otherwise it's going to be a mess for everything libpurple-based.
20:28 XRevan86; And perfection is well, ye know.
20:29 TR News; GitHub is NOT Git but an ATTACK on Git. Stop conflating those two. https://medevel.com/12-os-git-client-macos/
=> ↺ https://medevel.com/12-os-git-client-macos/
20:29 TR Bot; Best 12 Free Open Source Git GUI Clients for macOS
20:30 TR News; Sometimes you have to pinch and remind yourself suse.com is not in fact a Web site owned and controlled by SAP and Microsoft https://www.suse.com/c/cybersecurity-threats-to-sap-systems/
=> ↺ https://www.suse.com/c/cybersecurity-threats-to-sap-systems/
20:30 TR Bot; Threats to SAP Systems | SUSE Communities
20:31 TR News; "In May, robotics felt the waves of the Hawksbill and Jellyfish. Last month brought us the first LTS for ROS 2, Humble Hawksbill. As part of the ROS community, we welcome this new release and congratulate everyone who made it possible." https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-state-of-robotics-may-june-2022
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20:31 TR Bot; State of Robotics May & June 2022 | Ubuntu
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20:31 SomeH4x0r; hi
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20:31 SomeH4x0r; hi
20:32 TR News; David REVOY: I signed a petition to kick out the founder of the FSF... from the FSF. Now I sign for my fandom. https://www.davidrevoy.com/article918/signing-session-in-saint-antonin-noble-val
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20:32 TR Bot; Signing Session in Saint-Antonin-Noble-Val - David Revoy
20:32 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: ^
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20:34 TR News; Gemini is no longer a set of isolated islands; there is a growing sense of community with interactions across capsules (like in the days of blogs with trackbacks and pingbacks) http://techrights.org/2022/07/04/gemini-incoming-links/
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20:34 TR Bot; Gemini is Becoming Increasingly Interconnected and Adopts More Modern Encryption Protocols | Techrights
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20:37 TR News; "I am preparing my dog for the inevitable evening of terror as my countrymen prepare to celebrate the secession from the civilized world, due to the 'unfair' British taxes averaging 1.5%." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-07-04.gmi
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20:37 MinceR; schestowitz[TR]: lol
20:40 TR News; "[...] The web is complete shit; Beating a dead horse here, but I now use Tor and LibreWolf (when necessary) with Qwant search engine. I don't know what kind of bullshit Qwant is (some say it's total bullshit), but whatever. And Marginalia when that works." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-07-04.gmi
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20:40 TR News; "I am pretty upset about the fact that the internet is such shit. We had such high hopes about how it would change the world! As usual, it did, but in ways completely horrible." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-07-04.gmi
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20:41 TR News; "If I ran a software shop today (my area of expertise), I would flat out prohibit any social media during work hours. If I see your post during work hours, out you go." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-07-04.gmi
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20:43 TR News; Techrights will exceed 35,000 blog posts later this year, maybe 45,000 in 2025
20:45 TR News; Servers rebranded as "clown"; cui bono? https://www.wsj.com/articles/walmart-amps-up-cloud-capabilities-reducing-reliance-on-tech-giants-11656000000
20:45 TR Bot; Amps Up Cloud Capabilities, Reducing Reliance on Tech Giants - WSJ
20:46 TR News; Using Makeup to Block Surveillance https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2022/7/262071-using-makeup-to-block-surveillance/fulltext Source: cacm
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20:46 TR Bot; Using Makeup to Block Surveillance | July 2022 | Communications of the ACM
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20:48 techrights_guest|83; the last few years I have done 2-3 custom builds for people who were all about moving to linux. coming from windows 10. none of them were abe to make the move. they went from wanting off windows, to go to linux, to just wanting to sit on their phones . all day. these were formally technically capable end users. that degraded to sit in front
20:48 techrights_guest|83; of phone in the span of a few years. gemini is the future. everyone else will be sitting on an app. on their phone.
20:48 TR News; Intel is hype and waste of energy; in recent years it was also a force that bribes the media for puff pieces https://venturebeat.com/2022/06/28/intel-announces-silicon-photonics-advancement-towards-optical-i-o/
20:48 TR Bot; announces silicon photonics advancement towards optical I/O | VentureBeat
20:48 schestowitz[TR]; techrights_guest|83: I know what you mean
20:48 schestowitz[TR]; or tablets
20:48 schestowitz[TR]; gemini is suiotable for these
20:49 schestowitz[TR]; and does not require much computing power
20:49 schestowitz[TR]; the problem is, those devices don't emancipate users
20:49 schestowitz[TR]; they jumped from one jail to another
20:50 TR News; Cognitive Biases in Software Development https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2022/4/259421-cognitive-biases-in-software-development/fulltext
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20:50 TR Bot; Cognitive Biases in Software Development | April 2022 | Communications of the ACM
20:51 TR News;
20:51 TR News; "Back in 1985, Activision released The Complete Computer Fireworks Celebration Kit for the Commodore 64." https://lunduke.substack.com/p/1985s-c64-computer-fireworks-celebration
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20:51 TR Bot; 1985's C64 "Computer Fireworks Celebration Kit" from Activision
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20:52 TR News; Dont fall for quantum hype - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=b-aGIvUomTA&feature=youtu.be Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
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20:52 TR Bot; Don't fall for quantum hype - Invidious
20:53 TR News; A quadcopter that works in the air and underwater and also has a suction cup for hitching a ride on a host https://techxplore.com/news/2022-05-quadcopter-air-underwater-suction-cup.html Source: techxplore
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20:53 TR Bot; A quadcopter that works in the air and underwater and also has a suction cup for hitching a ride on a host
20:53 TR News; Using Light and Sound to Reveal Rapid Brain Activity in Unprecedented Detail | Duke Biomedical Engineering https://bme.duke.edu/about/news/using-light-and-sound-reveal-rapid-brain-activity-unprecedented-detail Source: Duke
20:53 TR Bot; Using Light and Sound to Reveal Rapid Brain Activity in Unprecedented Detail | Duke Biomedical Engineering
20:54 TR News; Star Labs Tease StarFighter, a Linux Laptop with 4K Display Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166841
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20:54 TR Bot; Star Labs Tease StarFighter, a Linux Laptop with 4K Display | Tux Machines
20:56 DaemonFC; Elon Musk going to Texas with Tesla is the funniest thing I've seen, well, aside from that picture with the Pope.
20:56 DaemonFC; If the Catholic Church needed another reason why they're totally discredited.
20:57 DaemonFC; Maybe Elon can give them a bailout in exchange for the conclave of Bishops making him the next Pope.
20:57 DaemonFC; A little something for everyone.
20:57 DaemonFC; Then he can take over the @Pontifex account.
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.51 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.68 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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21:00 SomeH4x0r; hi
21:00 MoneyFliffer; hi
21:02 DaemonFC; We may just go up to Burger King.
21:02 TR News; New Features in the Upcoming Linux Mint 21 Release Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166842
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21:02 TR Bot; New Features in the Upcoming Linux Mint 21 Release | Tux Machines
21:02 TR News; Lilbits: Xiaomi 12S Pro has a 1 inch image sensor, Ubuntu Touch comes to the JingPad A1 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166843
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21:02 TR Bot; Lilbits: Xiaomi 12S Pro has a 1 inch image sensor, Ubuntu Touch comes to the JingPad A1 | Tux Machines
21:04 techrights_guest|83; This is true. I find they also have expectations that are out of touch with reality. for instance they think that moving from microsoft to linux they will indeed just move over . and have no work to do. nothing to learn. they expect the smartphone i think and default to the least amount of mental power they must use in order to use said thing.
21:04 techrights_guest|83; I read a article some years ago now that resonates with me more now than ever. 2012. a blog post titled no one can use a computer. in the early days it was something ike 25% of the popuation had a home computer, and 95% of the 25% were proficent. the numbers in 2012 were somewhere around 90% of households had computers, but 25% were proficent.
21:04 techrights_guest|83; think there will be a shift back to that down the road here.
21:04 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: I used to work there
21:05 schestowitz[TR]; techrights_guest|83: now many homes do not have computers
21:05 schestowitz[TR]; they have a palm-sized spying machine
21:05 schestowitz[TR]; which they call a "phone"
21:05 techrights_guest|83; yes.
21:06 schestowitz[TR]; they think it's an effective and efficient tool for getting stuff done
21:06 techrights_guest|83; I liked the video on the phones concerning the basebands
21:06 techrights_guest|83; they all have basebands, and when that can be modified it will liberate the phones
21:06 techrights_guest|83; like you said ong way off
21:06 techrights_guest|83; long way off
21:07 schestowitz[TR]; it's not just that
21:07 schestowitz[TR]; you need to triangulate
21:07 techrights_guest|83; yes. theres that as well
21:07 schestowitz[TR]; so the phone always connects to companies
21:07 techrights_guest|83; yes.
21:07 schestowitz[TR]; unless you have communcal meshes
21:07 schestowitz[TR]; manchester tried that 20 years ago
21:07 schestowitz[TR]; an ambition anyway
21:07 schestowitz[TR]; got nowhere
21:07 techrights_guest|83; I read about that few years ago
21:08 schestowitz[TR]; many laptops too are trying to connect to wifi "hotspots" nearby
21:08 schestowitz[TR]; and the ISPs likely collect this data
21:08 techrights_guest|83; Yes. they do. I have a hadrware switch I keep off.
21:08 schestowitz[TR]; BT is short range
21:08 schestowitz[TR]; bluetooth
21:08 schestowitz[TR]; not british telecom
21:08 techrights_guest|83; we have BT removed from our hardware.
21:08 techrights_guest|83; we took the card out
21:09 schestowitz[TR]; it's mostly useless
21:09 schestowitz[TR]; passing signals without wires
21:09 schestowitz[TR]; my palm PDA still has IR
21:09 schestowitz[TR]; I barely use it
21:09 techrights_guest|83; it is. it wasnt any good for anything reay sow and laggy in the early days
21:09 techrights_guest|83; uses aot of power
21:09 schestowitz[TR]; my other palm PDA is barely functional any longer
21:09 techrights_guest|83; and broadcasts
21:09 schestowitz[TR]; phones used to last a week
21:09 schestowitz[TR]; no charge
21:09 schestowitz[TR]; on battery
21:09 schestowitz[TR]; bulky batteries, but still
21:09 techrights_guest|83; yes.
21:10 techrights_guest|83; we run sonims,
21:10 schestowitz[TR]; "mom! stop at the station! I need to charg ma phoner!"
21:10 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166844
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21:10 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
21:10 techrights_guest|83; they ast 2 weeks full charge. i keep the cell data off. bt off. wifi off. ect. just eave phone on for cals
21:11 techrights_guest|83; bar style phone. no app store.
21:11 techrights_guest|83; just baseband os.
21:11 techrights_guest|83; we had smartphones 2014-2017. we moved on.
21:12 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/03/as-tech-companies-pull-back-from-russia-china-looks-on-with-concern.html
21:12 TR Bot; As tech companies pull back from Russia, China looks on with concern
21:12 DaemonFC; I replied:
21:12 DaemonFC; "You can't do business in a country that has been sanctioned. People who use proprietary software, like Microsoft and Apple, deserve what comes from that. In Russia, they scramble to get away from Windows now. Had they used GNU/Linux all along they could have planned an orderly transition away from Microsoft. Now they're panicking and trying to get a solution in place in a couple of months when they could have taken a few years and been totally
21:12 DaemonFC; immune from the sudden cutoff."
21:13 techrights_guest|83; we have been 5 years now smartphone free. we dont take phones in stores or with us anywhere. it is interesting to watch the zombies everywhere we go. we watch them cross in crosswalks staring at the screen nearly getting hit by vehicles.
21:13 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: that'sgood for us
21:13 schestowitz[TR]; in freee software
21:13 schestowitz[TR]; it leaves some countries
21:13 schestowitz[TR]; without choice
21:13 schestowitz[TR]; but to make their own with free software
21:13 DaemonFC; It's proof that Putin's actions to isolate Russia from sanctions didn't actually get executed very well.
21:13 schestowitz[TR]; rolling out their national stack
21:13 techrights_guest|83; saw a guy once in a wheel chair crossing the corsswalk in town. head down on the phone. just like on autopilot.
21:14 techrights_guest|83; crossing the crosswalk.
21:14 DaemonFC; If he had considered being suddenly cut off from Microsoft, then there would have been a plan to phase it out in stages so that when the day came, it wouldn't matter anymore.
21:14 techrights_guest|83; its ike everywhere we go, we are there alone because the zombies are all imursed in their device.
21:14 schestowitz[TR]; techrights_guest|83: headphones can be worse
21:14 DaemonFC; <techrights_guest|83> its ike everywhere we go, we are there alone because the zombies are all imursed in their device.
21:14 DaemonFC; THIS
21:14 DaemonFC; I'm married to one of them.
21:14 schestowitz[TR]; when crossing the road
21:15 DaemonFC; All vacation long he's going to be buried in his fucking iPhone.
21:15 schestowitz[TR]; i know someone who died this way
21:15 schestowitz[TR]; a phd student
21:15 DaemonFC; Pulling out selfie sticks instead of taking in the view.
21:15 TR News; Be Wary Of "Fake" Open Source Software Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166845
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21:15 TR Bot; Be Wary Of "Fake" Open Source Software | Tux Machines
21:15 techrights_guest|83; yes.
21:16 DaemonFC; Hold on, gotta get the NarcissiStick. Made for iPhone!
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21:16 TR News; LOL. "New Windows 11 VMs could give you the perfect way to try before you switch"... Microsoft Windows is the new drug lord.
21:17 DaemonFC; https://www.makeuseof.com/windows-update-stuck-100
=> ↺ https://www.makeuseof.com/windows-update-stuck-100
21:17 TR Bot; Is Your Windows Update Stuck at 100%? Here Are 6 Fixes
21:17 DaemonFC; Windows 11.....Same problems as 8 and 10.
21:17 DaemonFC; It's amazing, totally new, yet the same problems.
21:17 techrights_guest|83; yes. 3 years ago had to go hellp a buddy as the moms was passing on. while out at her place, it was 24/7 uploads to facebook and iphone selfies, and like it was some kind of roadtrip. when it was final arrangments for his mother. it was really something to witness happeneing.
21:18 DaemonFC; All you can do is bang on troubleshooter wizards that usually don't work or corrupt something even worse and then give up and reinstall the entire system.
21:18 DaemonFC; mjg59_ "Everyone interesting uses Windows."
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21:19 DaemonFC; I remember installing a Windows 10 cumulative update. When I rebooted the computer, it would no longer allow me to use my PIN to sign in. It kept saying I got the wrong one.
21:19 DaemonFC; Then when I had the idea to remove the PIN and set it up again, it removed the PIN successfully, but Explorer.exe would crash when I told it to set up a PIN to log in with.
21:20 TR News; Gulag Noise has become a dumpster for trash disguised as "news"... "dailynewshungary.com" https://dailynewshungary.com/clear-kcna-linux-foundation-exam-with-dumpspedias-study-material-for-sure/
21:20 TR Bot; Clear KCNA Linux Foundation Exam With Dumpspedias Study Material For Sure - Daily News Hungary
21:20 DaemonFC; Windows Hello lets you sign in with your face, but most laptops have a camera that doesn't work with Windows Hello, so you can't use Windows Hello.
21:20 Luis64_gamer; it happens me sometimes explorer.exe crash while an cumulative update its being installed
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21:21 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I had a dream last night that was kind of weird. I was the passenger in my car, and my psychiatrist was driving the car around.
21:21 Luis64_gamer; Bruh hes a bot
21:21 schestowitz[TR]; put it on your TonDo list
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21:22 DaemonFC; There was another patient in the back seat and he was going over all of her medications and analyzing her and stuff. Then we pulled over at Walmart and let her out of the car and parked it, and went in.
21:22 DaemonFC; And then I had a seat in the FedEx office while it was time for my appointment.
21:22 TR News; Debrief: Perl IDE Hackathon 2022 http://blogs.perl.org/users/dean/2022/07/debrief-perl-ide-hackathon-2022.html
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21:22 TR Bot; Perl IDE Hackathon 2022 | dean [blogs.perl.org]
21:22 DaemonFC; People coming in to drop off packages and use the copying machine and everything. So weird.
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21:23 DaemonFC; Has to just be random stuff that my brain is putting together, I suppose.
21:23 TR News; Independence Day is another consumerism stunt (rather, it became this way). Let's celebrate our dependence on the bankers' loans... by buying stuff off of a credit card.
21:23 DaemonFC; I haven't actually seen my psychiatrist in person since 2019.
21:23 TR News; xkcd: Mouse Turbines https://xkcd.com/2641/ Source: xkcd
21:23 TR Bot; Mouse Turbines
21:24 DaemonFC; The COVID shit has forced him out of the office and onto one of those teledoc clones.
21:24 DaemonFC; Independence Day is another consumerism stunt (rather, it became this way). Let's celebrate our dependence on the bankers' loans... by buying stuff off of a credit card.
21:25 DaemonFC; Buying stuff to burn on a credit card.
21:25 DaemonFC; Having lots of mass gatherings to spread COVID and get shot at by some loser with a gun that the Democrats totally banned in this state yet there he is with one.
21:25 TR News; If coreboot cared about freedom, it wouldn't have outsourced to Microsoft Proprietary Software Prison (GitHub). Libreboot is the way...
21:26 TR News; Snal Linux 1.19 is out today https://sourceforge.net/p/snallinux/wiki/Home/
=> ↺ https://sourceforge.net/p/snallinux/wiki/Home/
21:26 TR Bot; Snal Linux / Wiki / Home
21:27 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Lots of people with AR-15s shooting places up for a state that totally banned it by name years ago.
21:27 XRevan86; https://coreboot.org/downloads.html a reminder that coreboot is not relying on GitHub for anything.
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21:27 TR Bot; Download coreboot
21:27 DaemonFC; Almost like the only ones that have them are the people breaking the law, which seems to be easy to do for some reason.
21:27 DaemonFC; Almost like it didn't set up a force field to disintegrate all of them at the state line.
21:27 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: ok, good
21:27 schestowitz[TR]; https://github.com/coreboot
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21:27 TR Bot; GitHub
21:27 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I was trying to explain to RMS the flaws in his gun control reasoning.
21:28 schestowitz[TR]; they should state it there
21:28 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: The Coreboot repository on github is just a mirror, all development is done using gerrit on corebot.org
21:28 schestowitz[TR]; "Mirror of https://review.coreboot.org/coreboot.git. We don't handle Pull Requests.
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21:28 schestowitz[TR]; "
21:28 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://review.coreboot.org/coreboot.git )
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21:28 mjg59_; Er, coreboot.org
21:28 schestowitz[TR]; https://github.com/coreboot/coreboot
=> ↺ https://github.com/coreboot/coreboot
21:28 TR Bot; - coreboot/coreboot: Mirror of https://review.coreboot.org/coreboot.git. We don't handle Pull Requests.
=> ↺ https://review.coreboot.org/coreboot.git.
21:28 DaemonFC; I said even if you ignore 3d printing and DEFCAD and guns coming in from other states, there were 60,000 guns in the FOID system that the State Police admit they have no idea where they went.
21:28 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Right, that's what I said
21:28 DaemonFC; And when you add the 60,000 guns the State Police lost that were in the FOID system to 3d printing and the ones coming in from other states, it doesn't matter what they do.
21:29 schestowitz[TR]; github is the new LeeNode
21:29 DaemonFC; But even if they got 2 out of 3 problems solved completely somehow, it would hardly slow the criminals down.
21:29 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: lack of empathy
21:29 DaemonFC; If they solved the 3d printing and the inflow, they'd still have the 60,000+ guns the State Police lost track of from FOID.
21:29 schestowitz[TR]; plus access to 400+ million firearms
21:29 DaemonFC; If they found the 60,000+ from FOID and made it impossible to print, they'd have the ones from out of state.
21:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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21:30 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: "good luck with alllllllll that" -jerry seinfeld
21:30 DaemonFC; No matter how you slice it, they could theoretically solve 100% of 2 out of 3 problems somehow (which is also impossible, you know, but just for argument) and still be pulling guns off of murder scenes statewide, mostly in Chicago, for infinity.
21:31 DaemonFC; So gun control is illogical because you only disarm the people who care.
21:31 DaemonFC; Who are also about 0.1% of the problem eventually.
21:31 schestowitz[TR]; that's just a dump idiom
21:31 schestowitz[TR]; sounds superficially true
21:31 schestowitz[TR]; *dumb
21:31 DaemonFC; If a person cares about a felony for having a gun, then they won't have one, but those aren't the people who will ultimately murder a person with the gun.
21:32 schestowitz[TR]; cool-down period for purchases is one way to tackle one type of problem
21:32 DaemonFC; The people who don't care it's a felony and who do it anyway are the problem, but since it doesn't work, what's the point of restraining the people who are not the problem?
21:32 schestowitz[TR]; but people can easy borrow or buy from a peer
21:32 schestowitz[TR]; not a shop
21:33 DaemonFC; All gun control does is shift gun ownership away from people who aren't criminals, and towards the criminals, and it emboldens the criminals because they know most of their victims won't be able to fight back.
21:33 DaemonFC; Want to do a mass shooting? Do it in a gun free zone in a state with the FOID Act.
21:33 schestowitz[TR]; rhetoric
21:33 schestowitz[TR]; you imply ther oridinary citizen is always cinnocewnt
21:33 schestowitz[TR]; and governments are always guilty
21:33 DaemonFC; You have the best odds of nobody returning fire and a stack of dead bodies and incompetent police officers pulling another Uvalde.
21:34 DaemonFC; Standing around for news cameras. Looking important.
21:34 schestowitz[TR]; copos don't do mass shooting
21:34 schestowitz[TR]; in the US it's rare
21:34 schestowitz[TR]; it happened in manila
21:34 schestowitz[TR]; mendoza
21:34 schestowitz[TR]; former cops killed HK tourists
21:34 schestowitz[TR]; *cop
21:34 DaemonFC; I didn't say the cops did the shooting, I said they appear for photo ops walking around with machine guns and body armor.
21:34 DaemonFC; Then they don't catch the guy.
21:35 DaemonFC; That's exactly what happened in Highland Park this morning.
21:35 schestowitz[TR]; presence can help too
21:35 schestowitz[TR]; as deterrence
21:35 schestowitz[TR]; the posing with big rifles is partly that
21:35 schestowitz[TR]; for show
21:35 DaemonFC; After 23 people wounded and in the hospital and 16 dead, the cops show up.
21:35 DaemonFC; To "deter".
21:35 DaemonFC; Woohoo.
21:35 DaemonFC; Very useful.
21:35 schestowitz[TR]; same with the truck in nice
21:35 schestowitz[TR]; they can respond too late
21:36 DaemonFC; They ALWAYS respond MUCH too late.
21:36 schestowitz[TR]; not always
21:36 schestowitz[TR]; you onlyu hear about the worst atrocities
21:36 schestowitz[TR]; the mass shootings happen every day
21:36 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, fbi now defined that as >=3 victims
21:36 DaemonFC; That's why when we say gun control is stupid, we say it like this.... "When seconds count, the police are only an hour away.".
21:36 schestowitz[TR]; *defines
21:36 schestowitz[TR]; but you only hear about the worst of the worst
21:37 schestowitz[TR]; make a country that treats people ddecently
21:37 schestowitz[TR]; teats
21:37 schestowitz[TR]; not with meds
21:37 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], In south Chicago, the police response time is now 2 hours and 6 minutes.
21:37 schestowitz[TR]; like antidepressants
21:37 DaemonFC; Good luck with that!
21:37 DaemonFC; Better not have a FOID card when they show up. They may arrest the victim.
21:37 schestowitz[TR]; then fewer will be evil enough to mass-murder strangers
21:38 schestowitz[TR]; biab
21:38 schestowitz[TR]; it's off topic anyway
21:38 DaemonFC; Like that Navy veteran who started carrying. He had a FOID card but not a CCL. He had a CCL, but he said it cost too much to keep renewing, so he just kept the guns in his house and had a FOID card. Then he had to do UberEats because of the shitty economy, and he kept getting approached and harassed by Chicago street criminals.
21:38 DaemonFC; So he started carrying again with a FOID but no CCL.
21:39 DaemonFC; When he got pulled over for speeding, he pulled out his driver's license. His FOID was behind the license. The cop saw the FOID and asked if he had a gun in the car.
21:39 DaemonFC; He told the cop yes, and then the cop charged him with a felony for not having the CCL.
21:39 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/funny-pictures-5-23-22-7.jpg
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21:39 DaemonFC; When I read that, I moved the FOID card out from behind my driver's license and put it behind my health insurance card instead.
21:40 DaemonFC; I said, "That's a good point. If the cop sees your FOID during a traffic stop, they might pull what they did with this poor fellow.".
21:41 DaemonFC; Don't put your FOID behind your driver's license.
21:42 TR News; Links 04/07/2022: StarFighter With GNU/Linux Preloaded, Ubuntu Touch on JingPad A1 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/04/ubuntu-touch-on-jingpad/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/04/ubuntu-touch-on-jingpad/
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21:42 TR Bot; Links 04/07/2022: StarFighter With GNU/Linux Preloaded, Ubuntu Touch on JingPad A1 | Techrights
21:44 TR News; todays leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166846
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21:44 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
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22:06 SomeH4x0r; hi
22:07 SomeH4x0r; I did invite my IRC friend, MoneyFliffer/Luis64_gamer here, but they left because bots are not clearly marked as bots unlike Discord
22:08 matey; but they left because bots are not clearly marked as bots unlike Discord <- um, ok
22:08 SomeH4x0r; they did try to talk with a bot
22:08 matey; i believe all the bots say "bot"
22:09 SomeH4x0r; https://techrights.org/irc/ - still visible here
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22:09 matey; ok
22:10 matey; there are archives too, so going back and seeing what happened july 4 2022 is possible
22:10 psydroid2; this is hilarious
22:10 matey; or will be by tomorrow
22:10 *psydroid2 thinks a certain extent of delusion is needed to talk to a bot
22:11 psydroid2; but everyone is different and I accept that
22:11 matey; ive done it a couple times
22:12 matey; but you know, they passed the turing test for 3 seconds
22:12 matey; it became obvious really quickly
22:12 psydroid2; exactly
22:12 psydroid2; Discord was invented for people who clearly can't pass that test
22:13 SomeH4x0r; 23:24 <Luis64_gamer> bcz i dont like servers with bots acting like humans
22:13 SomeH4x0r; that's what they said
22:14 psydroid2; so Discord it is
22:14 SomeH4x0r; 23:25 <Luis64_gamer> i just replied to a bot stupidly
22:14 SomeH4x0r; 23:25 <Luis64_gamer> waiting to recive an response
22:14 psydroid2; becoming one with the void
22:14 SomeH4x0r; they still remain on IRC, just other servers
22:15 matey; thats the smallest reason to use a different server ive ever heard of
22:15 psydroid2; nothing of value was lost
22:15 matey; but to each his own
22:15 SomeH4x0r; yes, I invited them here a few months ago to talk about Windows evils
22:15 SomeH4x0r; I did invite them here again just in case, no specific reason
22:16 SomeH4x0r; will try to invite them to digdeeper's chat the other time
22:16 psydroid2; the best way for people to learn is for them to experience the pain of running Windows and it making their life hell
22:16 matey; i cant/wont speak for everyone here, but i think the main thing of value that happens here is people keeping each other informed about a few things among peers who already have some idea whats going on
22:16 matey; new people are obviously welcome
22:17 matey; with that said, i dont think much happens here in the way of strategy or education per se
22:17 matey; not on average
22:17 matey; some may disagree, and some may even add hype (you cant stop them)
22:18 matey; if you know what to look for you can pick up useful tips here
22:18 matey; the reason im saying this is i start to wonder if you think something more than that is going to happen here
22:18 matey; and i dont think it very likely will
22:18 matey; of course if youre right and im wrong, more power to you, that would be great
22:19 matey; but maybe this place isnt what you think it is
22:19 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BciS5krYL80
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22:19 TR Bot; Hotel California (2013 Remaster) - Invidious
22:21 TR News; [Meme] EPO.org as a Portal of Lies (and Lobbyists) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/04/epo-lies-meme/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/04/epo-lies-meme/
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22:21 TR Bot; [Meme] EPO.org as a Portal of Lies (and Lobbyists) | Techrights
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22:22 matey; /me is not bot (he/him)
22:23 schestowitz[TR]; botkuhn
22:23 SomeH4x0r; oh, there was another issue
22:23 SomeH4x0r; they thought DaemonFC is a bot
22:23 matey; i could list a bunch
22:23 schestowitz[TR]; botta
22:23 SomeH4x0r; said DaemonFC sends messages like a bot
22:23 schestowitz[TR]; can't believe it's not botta!
22:24 matey; /me rebrands gnu/linux as "at least its not ballmer"
22:24 schestowitz[TR]; lol
22:24 matey; which is barely even true at this point
22:24 schestowitz[TR]; gnu/thigh
22:24 matey; but branding accentuates the positive
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22:24 schestowitz[TR]; imagine what the media would say if RMS did that
22:25 matey; chair/thigh
22:25 matey; two things you have to keep away from ballmer
22:25 schestowitz[TR]; he went to see MinceR and got egged
22:25 matey; imagine what the media would say if RMS did that <- they would share that clip every time someone mentioned him for the next 20 or 30 years
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22:26 matey; rms got egged in hungary, or ballmer?
22:26 schestowitz[TR]; balmmer
22:26 matey; heh
22:26 matey; i guess hes not in high enough office to get a shoe thrown at him
22:26 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mtBQ4UCXQeo
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22:26 TR Bot; Steve Ballmer Gets the Egg-Treatment in Budapest - Invidious
22:26 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xiiJsPG284Y
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22:26 TR Bot; Eggs thrown at Microsoft CEO during university lecture - Invidious
22:26 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wtfPAa0GJYY
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22:26 TR Bot; Steve Ballmer: Reaction to egg tossing in Budapest - Invidious
22:26 matey; gates got a pie, ballmer got egged, bush got a shoe
22:28 matey; [3~
22:28 schestowitz[TR]; in belgium
22:28 schestowitz[TR]; bill went to meet zoobab
22:28 schestowitz[TR]; to discuss his twitter ban
22:28 schestowitz[TR]; zoobab was suspended for saying gates has patents
22:29 matey; with that kind of slander its a wonder he didnt get slapped with a huge lawsuit
22:29 schestowitz[TR]; gates`not susp[ended sfrom anything for "well, he's dead"
22:29 schestowitz[TR]; trafficking kids for sex is "fair play"
22:29 schestowitz[TR]; when you're rich and well connected
22:29 matey; you can just BUY libreplanet
22:30 schestowitz[TR]; buy buy
22:31 psydroid2; macrohardplanet where everyone is free to buy into the macrohard ideology
22:32 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xh0YzOZrniQ
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22:32 TR Bot; Annie (1982) - It's the Hard Knock Life Scene (1/10) | Movieclips - Invidious
22:38 TR News; EPO Exploits the Deaths of Millions to Leverage COVID-19 Monopolies and Then Pushes Illegal, Unconstitutional Agenda Again (UPC) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/04/illegal-actions-antonio-campinos/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/04/illegal-actions-antonio-campinos/
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22:38 TR Bot; EPO Exploits the Deaths of Millions to Leverage COVID-19 Monopolies and Then Pushes Illegal, Unconstitutional Agenda Again (UPC) | Techrights
22:38 TR News; EPO.org used to be a Web site of Europes largest patent office, but the site has been hijacked by patent litigation lobbyists a disturbing development http://techrights.org/2022/07/04/epo-lies-meme/
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22:38 TR Bot; [Meme] EPO.org as a Portal of Lies (and Lobbyists) | Techrights
22:38 TR News; The dictatorship of Antnio Campinos continues to abuse the EPOs Web site to incite for or make calls towards illegal actions, just like Team Battistelli http://techrights.org/2022/07/04/illegal-actions-antonio-campinos/
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22:40 TR News; "I'm a big fan of terminal file managers and I think you should at least give them a try but are they really worth the effort." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_qmLGkRnzDk
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22:40 TR Bot; Are Terminal File Managers Really Worth The Effort? - Invidious
22:41 TR News; "In this video, we are looking at the beautiful backgrounds of the upcoming Linux Mint 21." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=6NYGfRUjSao
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22:41 TR Bot; Linux Mint 21 Backgrounds Slideshow - Invidious
22:43 TR News; "During the last days, we reviewed and cut the video recordings. The recordings are now available on the media platform of the CCC..." http://blogs.perl.org/users/max_maischein/2022/07/german-perlraku-workshop-recordings-are-online.html
22:43 TR Bot; Perl/Raku Workshop recordings are online | Max Maischein [blogs.perl.org]
22:51 matey; Fontconfig warning: line 145: blank doesn't take any effect anymore. please remove it from your fonts.conf
22:51 matey; thank you to whoever has been spamming the term with this useless bullshit for fucking years mate
22:51 matey; /me salutes
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.51 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.68 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
23:03 psydroid2; it's a terminal error
23:15 matey; when you run programs from there, you dont need extra noise from programs about how theres a space in your config
23:15 matey; sometimes youre looking for more important information
23:16 matey; of course if you redirect stderr you can grep out of it
23:16 matey; you can do their bidding and perfect some stupid config file per whatever they thought perfect means
23:17 matey; you could presumably even remove fontconfig, at which point most of your gui programs probably dont run, but im not going to bother asking herr doctor
23:17 matey; im sure his swastikas render in sixels just fine
23:18 matey; and im sure theyre not nazi or hindu or buddhist ones, probably just Zilog V swastikas
23:18 matey; thats what the z on tanks is for, zilog
23:18 matey; everyone thinks its ruscist, really they just miss the golden era of 8 bit computing
23:18 matey; when tanks looked like ][===
23:19 matey; ]z[=== - - - - - }}}=====>
23:20 matey; thats a russian tank taking out a ukrainian missle that was only fired to make trouble, you can bet on it
23:20 matey; "come back, we are your friends!"
23:22 matey; "yes we did fire at ukraine but we did it in the nicest way possible"
23:22 matey; "it has been broadly misinterpreted as aggression"
23:22 matey; "these missiles, they are missiles of peace and reconciliation"
23:23 matey; "YOUR missiles are rude and uncalled for, and we cannot allow them. this we greatly regret!"
23:26 psydroid2; more terminal errors
23:26 psydroid2; oops, zey did it again
23:34 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=LOZuxwVk7TU
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23:34 TR Bot; Britney Spears - Toxic (Official HD Video) - Invidious
23:36 matey; when you think you know all the britney videos are that nsfw
23:36 matey; /me has never seen this one
23:37 matey; probably 2/3 of her videos are
23:37 matey; probably 1/2 of her videos are sfw, i dont know
23:38 matey; :) mission impossible britney reminds me of an old friend (just a friend)
23:40 matey; /me does not think thats a passenger jet
23:43 matey; /me goes ahead and looks up "the truth about james cordon" before even saying how much he likes him
23:43 matey; tell me what to think, internet!
23:45 matey; "Proof James Corden Is A Hollywood PSYCHO Unbelievable" "James Corden Is WORSE Than Ellen DeGeneres" "Top 10 Worst James Corden Moments"
23:45 matey; aww
23:47 matey; this guys a terrible person TAP THAT LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE!
23:49 matey; people are pissed off that the driving in carpool karaoke is fake
23:49 matey; thank fuck it is, he doesnt have to look at the road (and would have probably killed someone by now)
23:50 matey; you know what else is fake? every "idol / factor / talent" show EVER
23:52 matey; he did shaft his writing crew out of better pay
23:58 matey; oh well.
23:59 matey; turns out all celebrities suck
23:59 matey; i dont even know why im surprised (im sure its not true, i simply dont have any counterargument)
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