Once again @pluralistic has managed to distill into once sentence something I've had trouble finding the words to explain. I'll be stealing this one!
"The classic leftist distinction goes: leftists want to abolish a system where 150 white men run the world; liberals want to replace half of those 150 with women, queers and people of color." https://pluralistic.net/2023/09/05/not-that-naomi/#if-the-naomi-be-klein-youre-doing-just-fine
See also: Why I refuse to be labeled as a 'Liberal'. (I'm not a 'Leftist' either, exactly. But I'll leave that for another toot.)
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@jackwilliambell @pluralistic There's an irony there only Americans can appreciate.
They literally conflate their two political parties with the whole truth of politics.
They result in a mishmash where they can say anything about anything and appear sharp and witty, yet has no application beyond their particular economic power structure.
I'm glad Europe isn't yet as fucked up talking about politics as they are. But hey, Elon is trying to get us there too.
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@gimulnautti @pluralistic
The first thing to understand about USA politics is: everything is shifted one slot to the right.
Forex, Democrats aren't wishy-washy 'Liberals' really. They are more like a European Center Right party. What Europeans call 'Liberals', we call 'Socialists' and what Europeans call 'Socialists', we call 'Communists'.
The founding fathers of the USA tried to create a system hostile to political parties. In the end they created a system favorable to only two parties.
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@jackwilliambell @gimulnautti @pluralistic Yeah I noticed this over the years since I started really paying attention - been rooting for the Dems but wouldn't touch the Tories over here with a bargepole. It's sad normal (for us, for most of Europe) social policies are so demonised over there.
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