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Written by Shriram Krishnamurthi on 2025-02-03 at 00:09

People like @fullyabstract have asked me in what way federation causes me problems. There's a thread at the bottom of which is this, and I don't even know what I'm missing. (Clicking on the link shows me NO replies or even a thread, just one message.)

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Written by Konrad Hinsen on 2025-02-03 at 09:25

@shriramk You can see this as a fundamental issue, and then the cause is indeed federation. But you can also see it as a pragmatic problem and accept a probabilistic solution, and then it becomes a client problem: Mastodon clients want to speak to only one server.

If you give up that constraint, there is a simple solution: crawling the federation.

https://blog.khinsen.net/posts/2023/11/05/following-branching-conversations-on-mastodon.html

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Written by Shriram Krishnamurthi on 2025-02-03 at 14:35

@khinsen @fullyabstract Interesting perspective, thanks. But I really don't have the energy or inclination that you do (which I admire).

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Written by Konrad Hinsen on 2025-02-03 at 16:16

@shriramk What I find surprising is that none of the popular Mastodon clients implements some form of crawling, considering how many people complain about not seeing replies.

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Written by Shriram Krishnamurthi on 2025-02-03 at 21:36

@khinsen

If many people complain about it, then it further confirms that I'm not alone ( @fullyabstract ). To me this is a basic design consequence of the "fediverse". I get why some people want this. It's the opposite of what I want, though. (And I'm glad the opposite exists for those who want it! It's just not…me.)

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Written by Alley Stoughton on 2025-02-03 at 22:18

@shriramk Are you tagging me because you think I still don't understand your point?

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Written by Shriram Krishnamurthi on 2025-02-04 at 15:01

@fullyabstract I didn't know you ever did, but if you do, great!

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Written by Konrad Hinsen on 2025-02-04 at 18:00

@shriramk For me, having to crawl for replies is the price to pay for the robustness of federation. A trade-off I am happy with.

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