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Written by dorotaC on 2025-02-03 at 11:37

Are you using #github for #FOSS ?

Small request: could you use FOSS instead?

Don't make #Microsoft your gatekeeper, use like #forgejo #codeberg or something.

https://sfconservancy.org/GiveUpGitHub/

Thanks to @conservancy 's @karen , Denver Gingerich and Bradley Kuhn for the #FOSDEM talk.

[#]fosdem2025

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Written by Snow on 2025-02-03 at 12:40

@dcz @conservancy @karen That's nice and all but if everybody is hosting their own git compatible server and they decide they don't want to work on the project anymore and kill their server. That makes a major problem for archiving. At least with Github the service isn't gonna die any time soon and they archive noteworthy projects. Also not to mention Github acts independently from Microsoft

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Written by dorotaC on 2025-02-03 at 12:45

@snow @conservancy @karen Github is known to remove projects against the users' wishes, so pick your poison.

https://umatechnology.org/github-removes-popular-open-source-youtube-dl-software/

And #youtube-dl is a noteworthy project I'd think.

What kind of (in)dependency does github have relating from Microsoft? Is it not wholly owned?

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Written by Snow on 2025-02-03 at 12:58

@dcz @conservancy @karen Skimming the article u linked I think controversially my opinion is they acted within their right sure they upset some people sure people can claim up and down that this makes them a bad company but in reality it broke youtube's terms of service and others terms of service. When you platform certain stuff you are liable for what that stuff is if people want to break terms of service they should host their own platform so they can take on their own liability instead of putting it on others that is my personal opinion. According to wikipedia it operates almost fully independently from Microsoft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GitHub#:~:text=Acquisition%20by%20Microsoft,-Microsoft%20was%20on&text=The%20deal%20closed%20on%20October,a%20community%2C%20platform%20and%20business.

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Written by dorotaC on 2025-02-03 at 13:07

@snow @conservancy @karen You're right. With github you have no power to choose the terms of service you prefer to be under, so you should choose to be somewhere that actually fits your needs.

Code forges don't federate yet, but once they do, it'll be a no-brainer. Until then, Github still has the network effect on its side, incentivizing people to use its monopoly.

That "independently" quote references a Microsoft press release about the acquisition, so I am not confident in anything it says.

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Written by Snow on 2025-02-03 at 13:08

@dcz @conservancy @karen Wait you're telling me they're working on federating open source projects now? Like actively pushing the code around on the network like how mastodon does from server to server with messages?

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Written by dorotaC on 2025-02-03 at 13:10

@snow @conservancy @karen https://forgejo.org/2023-01-10-answering-forgejo-federation-questions/

At FOSDEM I talked to someone who knows about Forgejo and was told they even use ActivityPub. But don't quote me on that.

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Toot

Written by chfkch :nixos: :rust: on 2025-02-03 at 13:54

@dcz

Search for Forgefed, since i do not a have a link at hand right now.

@snow @conservancy @karen

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Descendants

Written by Boud on 2025-02-03 at 19:05

@snow It's not just the code, it's also the meta-structures such as bug reports. For the #Forgefed specifications and main implementation #Forgejo , to answer questions about what actually gets (or should get) copied and when, why, and how, see the URLs.

@dcz

@chfkch

@conservancy

@karen

Forgefed: https://forgefed.org

Forgejo is implementing Forgefed: https://forgejo.org

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