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Toot

Written by David Frank on 2025-02-03 at 02:17

One cool thing about living in China is you get to see if companies really have any principles above profit and survival much earlier than the western world:

CEOs in the west openly criticize government ONLY when they are fully protected by the law isn’t the backbone that you think it is.

All of them are prone to “pulling an IBM” when the real dictators arrive. We just observe these tactics much earlier than you do.

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Descendants

Written by David Frank on 2025-02-03 at 02:19

In other words: patriot billionaires are a myth, even dictators know that.

https://betakit.com/shopify-ceo-commits-to-buy-local-features-for-shop-app-after-criticizing-canadas-tariff-response/

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Written by Yora on 2025-02-03 at 07:25

@bitinn Even Jesus preached that all rich people will go to hell.

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Written by demofox on 2025-02-03 at 02:25

@bitinn how do they show up sooner, could you explain more?

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Written by David Frank on 2025-02-03 at 02:36

@demofox If you know there is no chance of real negotiations, you bow to the policy much sooner. when I worked at MSFT, Ballmer (CEO at the time) once said internally “we have a global strategy and a China strategy”. It was around the time Google refused to censor search results in China and get kicked out entirely.

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Written by David Frank on 2025-02-03 at 02:38

@demofox MSFT was facing antitrust lawsuits from Chinese government but not because of its monopoly on OS (which it obviously had since 1990s) but because it wanted governments to upgrade their legacy Windows XP to Windows 7 (or pay more expensive support contracts). China instead put them in a huge antitrust case and MSFT eventually compromised.

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Written by David Frank on 2025-02-03 at 02:41

@demofox Google (because one of their founders were from USSR) were the last company to ever make a principled stand against Chinese government and you can see where this got them. (Google are now ran by different people you can see how the tide has shifted).

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Written by demofox on 2025-02-03 at 03:22

@bitinn thanks!

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Written by Outvi V on 2025-02-03 at 02:50

@bitinn@mastodon.gamedev.place This is an extremely efficient test ground. When you see CEO of a platform banned in China doing smoke jogging there, you know immediately what his principle is.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/18/mark-zuckerberg-beijing-smog-jog-china-facebook-pollution

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Written by David Frank on 2025-02-03 at 02:58

@ov exactly, same for Elon, who have aligned incentives with CCP to get his Tesla gigafactory open during COVID shutdown.

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