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Written by blinry on 2025-02-02 at 11:33

I brought my CO2 sensor prototype to #FOSDEM!

In K.3.401 (a tightly-packed dev room with closed windows), I measured a CO2 concentration of over 3000 ppm.

For reference: Outside air is currently ~420 ppm, and a common suggestion is to ventilate rooms to <= 1000 ppm.

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Written by Stéphane Bortzmeyer on 2025-02-02 at 11:35

@blinry Does it run with purely free software? :-)

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Written by blinry on 2025-02-02 at 11:42

@bortzmeyer Yup, based on esp-rs, and running on a RISC-V microcontroller :) The sensor component itself (from Senseair) might have a proprietary firmware, though.

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Written by raspberryswirl on 2025-02-02 at 11:51

@blinry @bortzmeyer can you post a link or link to code?

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Written by blinry on 2025-02-02 at 11:59

@raspberryswirl @bortzmeyer You can find some development history in this thread: https://chaos.social/@blinry/111686968730819403

And I just pushed the firmware here for you (more docs coming up in the future): https://github.com/blinry/co2-sensor-firmware

At some point, I'd like to design a custom PCB, untested schematic here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PrintedCircuitBoard/comments/1gwpryl/schematic_review_request_esp32c6_lowpower_co2/

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Written by federico :debian: on 2025-02-04 at 15:58

@blinry @bortzmeyer ESP32-C3?

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Written by blinry on 2025-02-04 at 16:03

@federico3 C6! @bortzmeyer

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Written by David Bremner on 2025-02-02 at 11:35

@blinry people have been posting pics of ARANET 4's displaying around 2800 ppm, so it sounds consistent with your measurement.

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Written by ​Piko on 2025-02-02 at 11:41

I tend to brag about my history knowledge by telling @blinry things like "Oooh, we reached Signing of Magna Carta levels of CO₂, we should open the windows.", but not even my Star Trek knowledge (which is, surprisingly, smaller than my history knowledge) helps me with those levels.

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Written by scy on 2025-02-02 at 12:30

@piko @blinry Well, you're past the Burn already. The United Federation of Planets is scattered. But don't worry, if all of you exhale just a little bit more, Theta Zeta will be discovered.

Let me know if you're still conscious when you're at Calypso-era levels.

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Written by viq on 2025-02-02 at 14:11

@piko @blinry "the air was so dense with carbon it sparkled like diamonds" 😂

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Written by Nicolas Dandrimont on 2025-02-02 at 12:10

@blinry wow, that is super neat! I've been thinking about building such a device for a while, glad to see so much progress!

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Written by Melroy van den Berg on 2025-02-02 at 12:23

@blinry not healthy indeed.

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Written by viq on 2025-02-02 at 14:14

@blinry @joepie91 nice! And interesting, I've attached an MH-Z19 (because there was ready software for it) to a flipper (because I already had it), and that one apparently doesn't go higher than 2000 ppm 😅

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Written by Florian Marquardt on 2025-02-02 at 15:29

@blinry Wow, peope must certainly feel dizzy at that CO2 comcentration inside a room. Certainly hard to think clearly. I also wish more organizers were aware of the correlation between mental focus and a reasonably low CO2 level (<800ppm is good I think, <600ppm feels fresh to me). Not to mention virus loads and suppression of immune system in such saturated used up air.

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Written by Cegorach on 2025-02-02 at 17:52

@blinry @datenwolf on the plus side: if it get's worse, you don't have to switch font size or display to fit the number onto that screen

just switch from ppm to %

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Written by federico :debian: on 2025-02-02 at 22:49

@blinry

Hey, I've built something similar with SCD41 MQ135 and SDS011 but without a custom fw (Tasmota seems enough for me). Would be nice to have FOSDEM AQI metrics!

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Written by Abe Massry on 2025-02-03 at 16:16

@blinry what do you think about attaching a portable HEPA filter with a large battery to it? Have it auto turn on when the CO2 concentration goes above n. It of course wouldn’t turn off till it got some fresh air but it would be an audible indicator of the need for fresh air.

It would be like the size of those large water bottles people carry around and they would have to charge every night just like their phones. People like canister shaped objects, charging, & carrying things

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Written by blinry on 2025-02-03 at 18:18

@abemassry That sounds like the #airbib project @flauschzelle is working on! :) (A wearable version of what you're describing!)

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Written by Kiki on 2025-02-03 at 19:06

@blinry

@abemassry

With the bottle-like shape, it sounds more like e.g. the ToGoFilter.

But both that one and my AirBib (of which I should update the docs to reflect the current status -.-) have in common that they use a VOC sensor instead of CO2, because VOC can actually be reduced by filtering, unlike CO2 (and also VOC sensors are cheaper).

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Written by Abe Massry on 2025-02-03 at 19:19

@flauschzelle @blinry I was thinking CO2 is a proximal indicator of pathogenic air and not a direct indicator, which the HEPA filter might help with.

I haven’t put in any actual work into developing it, so massive props to you. (Outside of researching for a product like this in the marketplace and finding none existed)

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Written by Kiki on 2025-02-03 at 19:55

@abemassry

@blinry

CO2 can be very useful as a proximal indicator of pathogenic air...if there are no filters running. Otherwise it can make the air appear more pathogenic than it actually is.

But a high CO2 level is of course even then still useful as a sign that the windows should be opened, because even without the pathogens, high CO2 will still make people tired and give them headaches :/

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