People I know are talking about writing to their senators and I’m just like man. We’re so far past that
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When no one rioted after Roe vs. Wade was overturned, I think most of the fascists were like “oh yeah, no one is gonna stop us” and so far they’ve been basically correct
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Like if you’re writing to your senators, ask them to deploy loyalists to federal armories lmao
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Currently a bunch of people are experiencing why I never viewed working for the federal government, or anything funded by it, as a stable career. There’s not much senators can do without a functioning civil service.
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Absolutely Moment: PSL are better Liberals than Liberals are Liberals
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@sidereal@kolektiva.social yeah, writing/calling to senators is... mmmm, how do I put it? Hold their asses to the fire but don't let it get in the way of more important stuff?
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@aud I mean it's not like there's anything wrong with it, it's more like. Would you expect to be able to write to your representative in Nazi Germany and get less Nazi shit? I wouldn't, personally.
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@sidereal@kolektiva.social ah yeah, I hadn't considered that people were thinking of it as a ... useful measure, strictly speaking.
I also do not think it's going to change a thing. The only purpose it has to me is showing that I am annoyed enough to call you about it and politely harass you and will do it again. And on the supremely off chance they're the type whose happy to take that into account as evidence for "what people want" (lmao lmao I know)... and both of those are fringe benefits, at best.
It's better than just being quiet, but not better than doing anything with actual impact.
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@aud Like in normal times at least an intern or staffer will log the comment somewhere and it might lead somewhere. But we’re just like so far past that lmao
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@aud Do you believe a senator could make a change? Dont you think that you have a greater changeforce than a senator? The machine doesnt control you, so you are more free to make the changes that are necessary.
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@vegafjord@freeradical.zone It's more that I don't believe elected officials should get away with going "oh well can't be helped" and not be called out for it. Which is what they've been doing for ages.
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@sidereal @aud Even the last few years, those of us who did write our senators, the response (if any) was basically "now is not the time".
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@sidereal "petition the king's guards", they said
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@burnitdown exaaactly
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@sidereal I had the same thought about Western democratic governments and COVID. They successfully disappeared a still ongoing pandemic, now they're less circumspect about dismantling the rule of law in their countries. Some more blatant than others, but all going into the same direction.
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I've been trying to think about how this connects to the pandemic too, bc it absolutely does.
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Disability activists like Imani Barbarin and the people from Death Panel have been warning about this for years now.
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Yes tho I think my current musing is on a more perhaps psychoanalytic, less material/ist wavelength, and I'm too tired to articulate it. Something like the leaders are angry at a virus and workers' frailties for breaking their sense of control
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That's very interesting. Imani Barbarin also addresses the psychology of this.
Although I think that angry response of our leaders started around 1792 or so. In my own research I was surprised when I read the names of old noble families funding the attacks on gender in Europe, and then realised I shouldn't have been. There's still so much to unpack ... 😞
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@Heidentweet @inquiline Yeah, I would argue that the world has essentially been fighting the unfinished French Revolution — whicy is to say, really, the unfinished Haitian Revolution — since about the 1780’s. We will win when there are no more aristocrats or landlords…
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@sidereal @Heidentweet @inquiline I think it’s more the case that no revolution is completely finished and we live with the crud of previous systems embedded. I read the US as having failed its bourgeois revolution three times (Reconstruction, New Deal, Civil Rights), and the reverberations of that. But also what’s happening here now didn’t start here and owes a lot to LatAm and Eastern European developments.
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@loshmi @Heidentweet @inquiline Arguably the first failed USA bourgeois revolution was the American Revolutionary War 🤣
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@sidereal @Heidentweet @inquiline You’re not wrong, although it somehow doesn’t sit right with me. It WAS radical but I don’t see the same kind of building of state apparatus and citizenship that I would associate with bourgeois revolution. I could be mistaken though.
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@loshmi @Heidentweet @inquiline I think that stuff sort of happened before and after the formal “fighting with the British” period of the ARW. Like small town New England semi-democratic assemblies date back to the 1600’s. There were also a lot of strikes, boycotts, and slave revolts in the 1760’s and continuing into the 1790’s (Bacon’s Rebellion, etc) — the pre- and post-ARW ruling class’s response to this was the bourgeois revolution, IMO.
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@loshmi @Heidentweet @inquiline Like this is getting off topic but the American Revolutionaries initially flew the flag of the British East India Company before they made their own flag. They didn’t necessarily want formal political separation from Britain, just economic “independence” to do things like colonize the interior of the continent and enslave human beings
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That's also very interesting. Anyway I was just noodling, I have no expertise in that kind of analysis but sometimes it's helpful to think of facets I wouldn't normally consider (but then I can't be articulate about them) (am still poorly rested, was up half the night worrying about all of this, which did not help anything)
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