There is a point where 'how is it gonna work if we win' and 'did we betray the entire point' are basically so far below consideration because there is no fight possible at that scale on the horizon, or the horizon they are on requires a State so impaired that net present radicals could push it over, as if any net present QoL or any life resembling 2025 is possible in such a scenario
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There is a vanishing point of inhabiting the better world you fight for when its below a point of possibility or the possibility requires a total redress of better world that goes lower by the day.
Like, 'oh, the thing proto revolutionaries couldnt articulate a surefire provision over in victory isnt even provided in a diminishing status quo' is more likely than 'did we lose the plot?' Especially if proto revolutionaries are losing the plot already.
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