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Written by BenRiceM on 2025-01-31 at 20:38

I’m sure there’ll be a lot of handwringing that Apple has lost its way, but I’m far from convinced AR/VR devices are anything more than novelty.

No one wants their primary device to be driven by voice. No one wants their device’s screen to be visible to any and all strangers nearby.

People like laptops and phones. https://mastodon.social/@markgurman/113924618577096746

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Written by BenRiceM on 2025-01-31 at 20:40

Every time people say that AR glasses are the future, I imagine someone sitting in the subway, receiving a nude photo and trying to respond by voice

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Written by Sindarina, Edge Case Detective on 2025-01-31 at 21:00

@BenRiceM 😂

There are a lot of reasons why AR glasses could be great, if executed correctly. It's just that it is difficult to do well, especially while remaining private, entirely on device, etc.

I am just hoping that Apple cancelled because the timing isn't right, not because they are ‘pivoting' to AI or whatever 😒

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Written by Chon Torres on 2025-01-31 at 21:08

@BenRiceM I’ve seen some strange things on busses and subways - just sayin.

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Written by Greg Kaplan on 2025-01-31 at 21:24

@BenRiceM there’s a virtual keyboard for Apple Vision Pro. It currently sucks and eye tracking currently sucks as an input to move a text cursor but that could improve. Will people look dumb typing in the air? Probably. But I think we’d get used to it. People still look dumb with a phone in their face on the subway but everyone does it so it’s fine.

I’m skeptical too but there are some nice things about it. Just needs time for more nice things and less bad things to be there.

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Written by BenRiceM on 2025-01-31 at 21:27

@kaplag I gather the virtual keyboard is not a great experience, though I haven’t tried myself.

But also VP has downward facing cameras so it can see your hands

I’m not sure if the same would be feasible with glasses

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Written by Greg Kaplan on 2025-01-31 at 21:36

@BenRiceM the AVP virtual is “meh” now. In a couple years it could be about as good as an iPad virtual keyboard.

Yea ¯_(ツ)_/¯ what kind of sensors they’ll do in glasses form.

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Written by Greg Kaplan on 2025-01-31 at 21:38

@BenRiceM let’s say they did do glasses but more static. It’s like Apple Watch. No one really wants to reply to a message on Apple Watch but they can see the notification and decide to pull out a phone to reply. I don’t think anyone expects this to replace a phone. Just like nothing else has.

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Written by Kyle Hughes on 2025-01-31 at 22:40

@BenRiceM I’m more inclined to believe something like that is the future, but as a glasses wearer I’m also very skeptical that people want to wear glasses.

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Written by Niléane on 2025-01-31 at 22:51

@BenRiceM and you can bet the few who’ll still do it will be gross cis men

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Written by gkrnours on 2025-02-01 at 10:44

@BenRiceM rather than voice command, I could imagine a ring that can be "scrolled" to give next and previous command plus double tap to confirm, along with audio feedback, like text-to-speech interface for visually impaired people. A glove rather than a ring could offer a full numeric keypad.

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Written by Cesare Forelli on 2025-01-31 at 20:51

@BenRiceM I just want prescription glasses that don't make me look dumb, with integrated AirPods, no screen whatsoever and maybe a camera. I really hoped they'd do something.

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Written by BenRiceM on 2025-01-31 at 20:55

@cdf1982 if they play audio out loud, that’ll probably be inappropriate in a lot of situations.

And a camera you can’t position independently to your face is going to limit composition greatly. There’s some utility to it being hands free… but I don’t think that much if you still need a hand or voice to trigger it

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Written by Cesare Forelli on 2025-01-31 at 21:14

@BenRiceM Both fair points.

But I think being that close to your ears, they could manage to get audio to you in a way that would not be more annoying than open-back headphones.

And the camera could provide some fun use cases (though I can also see very inappropriate ones).

I admit I'd want one mostly for when I'm out walking my dog, and I'd never consider Meta offer. But I still think it would be a fun product for Apple to make, not the biggest success, but a cool niche.

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Written by AlexTECPlayz on 2025-01-31 at 23:06

@BenRiceM I don't think anyone would really make XR glasses their 'main' device, at least any time soon.

If there were XR glasses in the form factor of actual glasses (similar to the Ray-Ban Meta, but maybe slimmer and you know, not made/controlled by Meta), that wouldn't require to be charged more than once a day (e.g on the nightstand, or wireless pad under desk), that could wirelessly connect to your phone, tablet or laptop, then I'd see the purpose of them - but they'd still depend on your actual main device, your smartphone.

Of course, add on top of that some magical way of reading your thoughts or doing some form of eye tracking to type stuff and do things without you gesturing in the air, and then it's not hard to see its benefits - multiple virtual screens you could use for programming, trading, overseeing operations, planning, drawing, documenting an event in real-time, etc. Still, this would be fantasy for at least another decade.

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