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Written by requiem 🏴 on 2025-01-21 at 19:30

@djsundog if this is a nuisance let me know, but I have questions about the orangestorm and you are the only person I know who has actually used one 😁

First off, if you were buying one today, would you get any of the add-ons they offer as a package?

https://us.elegoo.com/products/orangestorm-giga

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Written by DJ Sundog from the new toot-lab on 2025-01-21 at 19:33

@requiem no worries, happy to give you any answers I have!

I wouldn’t, with the possible exception of a second print head/extruder, not to use in tandem with the first, but to make swapping between the 0.6mm nozzle and the 1.0mm nozzle we got easier (just swap the whole head rather than the nozzle). (we did not get the second print head yet so I cannot guarantee it’s easier to swap than just swapping the nozzle, but that’s my bet.)

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Written by requiem 🏴 on 2025-01-21 at 23:01

@djsundog cool, that makes sense.

What size (kg) spools do you use?

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Written by DJ Sundog from the new toot-lab on 2025-01-21 at 23:04

@requiem we got some 5kg spools that have been working out okay, running from the provided large spool holder, running a meter of filament up to a pulley and through the filament sensor, and then down a meter to the extruder and hotend. I’m not thrilled with the filament path being so dang long and triggering a runout pause with a meter of filament left stuck into the top of the extruder, but I haven’t come up with a preferred mode of operation that’s not that yet haha

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Written by requiem 🏴 on 2025-01-23 at 17:59

@djsundog did you try their filament? If so, how is it?

Not sure where else I’ll get 5Kg spools but I don’t want to buy a bunch of crap either 🤣

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Written by requiem 🏴 on 2025-01-23 at 18:56

@djsundog oh one more: what slicer do you use (I don't see any options for linux)?

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Written by DJ Sundog from the new toot-lab on 2025-01-23 at 20:55

@requiem we’re using OrcaSlicer as elegoo made a profile for it and I don’t enjoy cura haha

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Written by requiem 🏴 on 2025-01-23 at 20:55

@djsundog ah cool, I’ve never used Orca, is there a Linux build?

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Written by DJ Sundog from the new toot-lab on 2025-01-23 at 21:24

@requiem yeah, it’s a fork of prusaslicer merged with a fork of something else lol - https://github.com/SoftFever/OrcaSlicer

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Written by amd on 2025-01-23 at 21:51

@djsundog @requiem

Orca Slicer has Bambu slicer’s layout and some of its functionality along with a bunch more.

Softfever has done an amazing job with it and it runs great on Linux. It’s my daily slicer for both my machines.

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Written by requiem 🏴 on 2025-01-28 at 18:37

@amd @djsundog my first run with Orca and I crashed it 😂

I wonder if it needs more ram or something...

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Written by amd on 2025-01-28 at 23:48

@requiem

I don’t know how much ram you have but it doesn’t use a crazy amount. Probably 1 gb if it’s slicing a pretty complicated plate.

If you want any troubleshooting help:

Did it throw an error or just crash silently?

What distro are you running?

I do run software rendering on Wayland with nvidia-drivers

@djsundog

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Written by requiem 🏴 on 2025-01-29 at 02:51

@amd I ran a few more tests, it’s running out of memory 😁

This machine has 32gb, I’ll try my other laptop that had 64 and see what happens 😁

@djsundog

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Written by amd on 2025-01-29 at 05:59

@djsundog @requiem

Wow! That’s a surprise to me. I see no issues on my 16gb machine… maybe you’re slicing way cooler models than I am.

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Written by requiem 🏴 on 2025-01-29 at 15:02

@amd just a 760mm tall beaver... 😇 @djsundog

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Written by amd on 2025-01-29 at 16:56

@requiem

I guess it’s just the number of layers? My biggest printer is 300mm^3 and can’t print half that height.

I’m way from my machines but I’m curious to add a giga profile to my orca and see what happens.

@djsundog

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Written by requiem 🏴 on 2025-01-29 at 17:24

@amd yeah im sure thats it, but its something. I’ll have to solve before the giga arrives 😅

I thought my other laptop had more ram, but it doesn’t. If I can find some time I’ll take a look at the code and see if it’s leaking or something that I can do something about.

@djsundog

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Written by amd on 2025-01-31 at 01:15

@requiem

I just got back to my laptop and added the default elegoo giga profile with the 0.6mm nozzle.

There is definitely a lot more memory usage when you're slicing bigger stuff though not so bad as you saw.

Slicing the biggest benchy I could fit on the plate was about 9gb ram and didn't crash on my X230 with 16gb memory.

Let me know if you'd like me to slice some sample file for any comparison.

@djsundog

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Written by requiem 🏴 on 2025-01-31 at 01:58

@amd cool, ill try and find a link to the file I can share.

@djsundog

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Written by requiem 🏴 on 2025-01-31 at 02:04

@amd Here we go:

This is the original STL:

https://github.com/jjg/models/blob/main/unsorted/beaver.stl

Here's the Orca project file:

https://github.com/jjg/models/blob/main/unsorted/big_beaver_orca.3mf

In particular I simplify the original model (I forget the exact setting but one click below highest quality, which is still a lot fewer polygons than the original) and scale it up to about 670mm in Z.

It does OK slicing until it starts computing the layers. About half-way through I see RAM consumption climb until finally it grabs too much and gets oomkilled.

@djsundog

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Written by DJ Sundog from the new toot-lab on 2025-01-31 at 02:54

@requiem @amd gotta say, that’s a fantastic beaver you’ve got there

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Written by DJ Sundog from the new toot-lab on 2025-01-31 at 02:56

@requiem @amd I’ll toss my 128GB RAM workstation a shot at slicing it tomorrow once I get Orca Slicer installed on it (I don’t use it as a desktop - in fact, a tiny slice of it is sending this toot lol)

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Written by requiem 🏴 on 2025-01-31 at 03:02

@djsundog thanks, I’m excited to see what happens!

Out of curiosity, what’s the biggest thing you’ve printed on the giga so far?

Also, have you had to add filament mid-print?

@amd

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Written by DJ Sundog from the new toot-lab on 2025-01-31 at 03:13

@requiem @amd

this is what I get slicing it at 0.36mm layers with lightning infill after bringing it down to 43k triangles (on my lil laptop with 32 gigs of ram)

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Toot

Written by DJ Sundog from the new toot-lab on 2025-01-31 at 03:14

@requiem @amd but it is giving me hella side eye about not having supports turned on as well

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Descendants

Written by DJ Sundog from the new toot-lab on 2025-01-31 at 03:39

@amd @requiem

okay, here’s your 3mf file sliced on my laptop with the infill switched to lightning and the supports Orca wanted turned on – resident memory usage peaked at 15GB according to htop

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