Some years back, the BBC in the UK used this as a backdrop for a story on Jeremy Corbyn:
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It's absolutely beyond reason to imagine that he wasn't being painted as some kind of Stalin-esque "off to the gulag with you!" type.
The relevant story was about the Salisbury poisonings, carried out by Russia, and the photo was from two years' earlier.
Clearly placed to show Corbyn as some kind of pinko-Stalin-pro-Putin-USSR-Marxist-Leninist stooge
(and if my conflation of terms is incoherent, welp)
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And yet.
We're currently watching a full-on fascist take-over in the US (and I don't use fascist lightly), with literal concentration camps, nazi salutes, and...fucking everything else (!)...and we're playing with "no, no, you're overreacting!"
If a vaguely left figurehead had pulled even a fraction of this, the right would be losing their shit about their "liberties", but no. It's fine, because the only people affected (LOL so far) are the people they don't like.
And we know who those people are, that they don't like. It's fucking simply "people who aren't like them".
I dunno, I'm no expert of fascism, but seems pretty fucking fascist to me, and if you're in the UK and 3/4 of your personality is "Me Nan used to make parachutes for Our Boys, and me Grandad was in the Navy until 1945, simple as, and me ovver Grandad spent the summer of 1940 desperately repairing Spitfires", I'd probably not be keen on excusing fascism anywhere.
But hey, what do I know?
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I mean, there's an option here: on one hand we want to go back to the 40s and 50s.
Okay, the sort of people who want that are also - largely - the sort of people who say shit like "sunlight is the best disinfectant!" when confronted with antifa, and are very against violence - either because they're centrist tea-sippers or because they know that they deserve the violence.
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Which is, like, okay? Fine.
But I'm not sure you understand that I'm also okay with that, because before disinfectant was invented, what my dear old Nan did to get rid of germs or bacteria or whatever was to beat the ever-loving shit out of it
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@neonsnake Gosh I hate Oceania
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@neonsnake and salt, lots of salt
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@neonsnake "everybody's singing with their hand on their heart / about the deeds done in the darkest hours / it's just the sort of catchy little melody / to get you singing in the showers"
-- Elvis Costello, "Night Rally"
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@neonsnake
You are implying that the democrat collusion with facebook and twitter et al to censor speech a few years back wasn't fascist?
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@TJB am I?
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@neonsnake
I was asking you that....your comment was open to that interpretation...
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@TJB no, your sentence started with "You are implying"
Pretty sure I've been clear over the months and years that I'm no fan of the Dems, but also I'm not from the US; I've little interest in the "Facebook supported the Dem fascists" bollocks.
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@neonsnake
did you have your posts censored? if not, why do you think limitations on free speech is just bollocks?
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@TJB What on earth are you talking about? My initial post made no mention of Facebook, Twitter, Democrats, or free speech on social media whatsoever.
This feels like whataboutism at best, and some kind of weird trolling at worst.
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@neonsnake
You said:
"We're currently watching a full-on fascist take-over in the US (and I don't use fascist lightly)"
and I'm saying that this is nothing new. you can call my objection whatever you want, but to act as if the demtards are a bastion of freedom is both dishonest and bollocks of the best english kind
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@TJB what, precisely, did I say about the Democrats in my thread?
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@TJB So, I'm calling your objection "trolling".
In the thread you replied to, I provided you with roughly the same amount of information about how I feel about the Democrats, as how I feel about The Allman Brothers Band, suede shoes, or pineapple on pizza - that is, absolutely fucking none.
You decided to turn my thread which was very obviously and specifically about the the UK's response to the current situation re. Nazi salutes and concentration camps into assumptions about what I might feel about something very tenuously related (censorship on social media).
I note your use of the word "demtards" - not a turn of phrase likely to make me treat you like a serious person; further I note a previous reply of yours to the common anarchist position that "labour creates all wealth" with "but no ideas", along with some others around some patriarchal ideas about "men strong: protect!" - these are views that would largely sit with the right-wing.
Not sure whether you're genuinely trolling, or just a naive an-cap that's wandered into the wrong house whilst drunk on 1% beer, but either way: I advise not putting words in my mouth about subjects irrelevant to my point, nor attempting to divert a thread into your own personal bugaboos about the Dems - I have zero interest in such whataboutism except in so much as it amuses me to watch you dig a hole for yourself.
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@neonsnake
You can be as verbose as you want, but all it communicates to me is your more in love with yourself than with the truth. if that makes you a typical anarchist, its not surprising that the ideals get nowhere. bye.
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@neonsnake my sentence ended with a "?" however...
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@neonsnake cool and normal
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@neonsnake
That's not a flat cap, though. Corbyn used to wear a Greek fishermans cap, copying me.
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@Walrus @neonsnake BBC propaganda for you, the best PM we never had. Mariners cap, Trabant, allotment of turnips, "million pound house" and all. Fuck the BBC
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