I tried Safari. Did not stick. I hoped the vertical tabs would be fun but no such luck.
The tab groups are cool but if you are using them and click a link from another application, it opens in a new window. What?
And no middle-click to close tabs. That’s a core part of my tab management strategy. Occasionally I do a pass over them and close a bunch.
I miss multiple layers of nesting, too.
So back to Firefox and Tree Style Tabs I go.
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@samir Just FYI, Floorp (a Firefox fork) has an option for vertical tabs, so could be worth a shot if that's a feature you want?
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@TatraT815 I would like to check it out at some point, but I’m a bit wary of these Firefox forks; I’d like to know if they have staying power.
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@samir The killer Safari feature for me a decade ago was that if I went to a coffee shop and did actual dev work on my MacBook Air, it would run quietly on the battery without complaint until I was sick of the coffee shop and left.
Whereas Chrome would immediately spin up the fans and an hour later, I would join the “power outlet gladiator games.”
Easy to understand: Apple sells the entire experience. Google sells a faster browser at the expense of my battery, which most would blame on Apple.
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@raganwald Yeah, I agree, it was a huge deal!
Nowadays we are so spoiled with the aarch64 chips. I unplugged my laptop accidentally this morning and only noticed about 6 hours later. If I hadn’t been using Docker, it might have gone all day.
I still stay away from Chrome though. I don’t get the appeal at all.
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@samir Obviously, I have used Chrome when testing anything non-trivial in a web app. It has some very nice developer features that are useful when wrangling over-architected web apps.*
But it is never my daily driver for usability reasons, and that doesn't even get into the philosophical implications of using a web browser built by a surveillance corporation..
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As the joke goes, "...over-architected web apps. But I repeat myself."
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@raganwald Yeah, I used it for a year or so and I think the dev tools may have been what hooked me. (They’re still the best.) But it’s too much bubble wrap. The browser is the operating system. I need to be able to put my stuff where I like it, and run the extensions I choose. If they’re bad for performance… it’s still my choice.
I think we can blame Chrome/v8 for slow React websites, right? I distinctly remember having to use it to use Facebook (10 years ago), because Firefox was too sluggish.
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@samir, try Zen if you have a chance.
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@anthony Tempted by one of these Firefox forks but I’m still wary that they’ll be around in a year.
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